what is really viable now?

#31

Pendji

27 Frags – +

It's 2018. Insomnia finals. 3-3. Last is being pushed.

It all comes down to this.

Can the soldier M2 the cowmangler better than the engineer can hold M1 from spawn?

It's 2018. Insomnia finals. 3-3. Last is being pushed.

It all comes down to this.

Can the soldier M2 the cowmangler better than the engineer can hold M1 from spawn?

#32

springrolls

0 Frags – +

tbh rescue ranger would be perfectly fine if you couldn't bring your gun into spawn (make it blow up like it used to)

but yea rescue ranger/cow mangler will probably see full time use

beggars for niche purposes (mid double bombs?)

i also think loch n load is a bigger problem than people realize, i remember when it was briefly allowed in hl jarrett would get like equal damage on the loch vs. his sticks

now granted you have slow ass classes in hl but i think the benefit of hitting scouts more reliably in 6's makes it more useful than stock

tbh rescue ranger would be perfectly fine if you couldn't bring your gun into spawn (make it blow up like it used to)

but yea rescue ranger/cow mangler will probably see full time use

beggars for niche purposes (mid double bombs?)

i also think loch n load is a bigger problem than people realize, i remember when it was briefly allowed in hl jarrett would get like equal damage on the loch vs. his sticks

now granted you have slow ass classes in hl but i think the benefit of hitting scouts more reliably in 6's makes it more useful than stock

#33

Gaz

16 Frags – +

consumonnshorasAlfiebiskuitrescue ranger engineer repairing sentry from spawncow mangler secondary disables all abilities of rescue rangerBut then you can use Gunslinger to piss of Cow Mangler Soldiers, who wouldn't be able to take a down a mini easily.
TF2's turning into "use X to counter Y", just like Overwatch?Loch n' Load is probably gonna be the meta so gunslinger is no problem ever.

As someone who used the gunslinger in 6s since the new aids whitelist I can 100% confirm that this is not the case at all. Minis are great to deny sacks and as an alarm system to scouts trying to run behind. If you try to use it to take time off ubers/get frags you are doing it wrong

Also, the entire "Switch loadouts to counter specific loadouts" is a really boring game concept and saying "but now the loch'n'load counters rescue ranger engies" doesn't justify all this stuff getting unbanned.

This entire whitelist smh

[quote=consumonn][quote=shoras][quote=Alfie][quote=biskuit]rescue ranger engineer repairing sentry from spawn[/quote]
cow mangler secondary disables all abilities of rescue ranger[/quote]
But then you can use Gunslinger to piss of Cow Mangler Soldiers, who wouldn't be able to take a down a mini easily.
TF2's turning into "use X to counter Y", just like Overwatch?[/quote]
Loch n' Load is probably gonna be the meta so gunslinger is no problem ever.[/quote]

As someone who used the gunslinger in 6s since the new aids whitelist I can 100% confirm that this is not the case at all. Minis are great to deny sacks and as an alarm system to scouts trying to run behind. If you try to use it to take time off ubers/get frags you are doing it wrong

Also, the entire "Switch loadouts to counter specific loadouts" is a really boring game concept and saying "but now the loch'n'load counters rescue ranger engies" doesn't justify all this stuff getting unbanned.

This entire whitelist smh

#34

damneasy

6 Frags – +

Im gonna do some epic shit with the bazooker :D

#35

Brimstone

8 Frags – +

I want someone to hit a fat charged cow mangler airshot

#36

hooli

3 Frags – +

BrimstoneI want someone to hit a fat charged cow mangler airshot

i made this video with the original mangler particles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln0srzeU5iw

[quote=Brimstone]I want someone to hit a fat charged cow mangler airshot[/quote]
i made this video with the original mangler particles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln0srzeU5iw

#37

RadioactiveNinja

-8 Frags – +

Max_The extra speed makes pipes easier to hit at close, medium and long range; hitting more pipes is always good. And because of how projectiles work Loch pipes travel even farther than normal, rollers are also overrated and not as good as people think they are

All I was saying was that personally I feel that since I'm already very consistent with regular pipes, I prefer to have the extra pipe + roller zoning, but if demos feel more confident with the faster pipe speed then it's just as good/better than normal pipes. I don't feel it's as much of a direct upgrade as more of a sidegrade.

[quote=Max_]The extra speed makes pipes easier to hit at close, medium and long range; hitting more pipes is always good. And because of how projectiles work Loch pipes travel even farther than normal, rollers are also overrated and not as good as people think they are[/quote]
All I was saying was that personally I feel that since I'm already very consistent with regular pipes, I prefer to have the extra pipe + roller zoning, but if demos feel more confident with the faster pipe speed then it's just as good/better than normal pipes. I don't feel it's as much of a direct upgrade as more of a sidegrade.

#38

Birdyrocks

-3 Frags – +

i like that we have a lot of viable options now but honestly i can't see very much changing in terms of whats being used unless its to counter very specific things (don't be shocked to see lesser prem teams running mini sentries to stop stark flanking) you'll probably see some people running mangler but it nerfs you for last pushes if the other team has a sentry so it will be run a lot less than regular rockets and the loch and load gives you more potential to defend yourself against scouts as a demo but less potential damage output so i can't see much changing

#39

scrambled

-1 Frags – +

HildrethMost viable strat is suicide, cos then you don't have to play this shit game anymore

SeemsGood

dont know if i should upfrag cus it made me laugh or downfrag cus of the meme

[quote=Hildreth]Most viable strat is suicide, cos then you don't have to play this shit game anymore[/quote]

SeemsGood

dont know if i should upfrag cus it made me laugh or downfrag cus of the meme

#40

jdm

6 Frags – +

@ radioactiveninja

Use the loch n load and get comfortable with it or you are just shooting yourself in the foot

@ radioactiveninja

Use the loch n load and get comfortable with it or you are just shooting yourself in the foot