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NA Panda Pugs Summer Tournament - Sponsored by EVL
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Hey there.

Panda Pugs is excited to announce its first tournament sponsored by EVL Gaming!
Everything you need to know about the tournament will be listed and answered here by either Akinfenwa, Panda Dave, or I. However, feel free to PM Panda.

About
First off, huge thanks to EVL Gaming for providing game and mumble servers, a stream to cast the event, and money for the prizepool. This tournament would not be possible without them. Now, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams. Due to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence. Please, if this is a problem for you, do not enter yourself in the tournament. This reduces hassle for everyone. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for everybody that comes out to play. (:

Major Details:


  • The tournament will be held June 18-19, which is the 3rd Saturday/Sunday in June. The tournament will start 6:30 est Saturday and will pick up at the same time the next day.

  • The first night will be played in Round Robin style with the top 4 finalists competing the next night with evlTV to cast. The Round Robin games will only be played with one half so that everyone can play each other in one night.

  • This tournament will be first come first serve so sign yourself up now! Any potential subs will be called upon through our group page where your team will decide on who to pick. These subs will be your new team members just to ensure security within teams and fair competition. This is also to ensure that team members show up. You can have no more than two subs.

  • Our mods and admins will take turns monitoring the servers to ensure a fun and organized gaming experience for everyone. Furthermore, if you have any problems we will always be available to help. We will have an “Admin Help” channel for players to stop by and discuss any issues they may face.

Rules
The tournament is going to be held with standard pug rules. However, we have thrown in some other rules to fit the tournament.

  • Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
  • Your team must be ready to play 10 minutes after scheduled time or you must suffer a forfeit loss.

Prize Pool:
The current prize pool is 18 keys provided by EVL Gaming. These keys will only be given to the winning team of the tournament. Donations to increase the prize pool are accepted. You can donate here.

Sign Up sheet (You can sign up to play multiple classes)

References
If by any chance you did not see a link you are looking for we have them all listed down here.
Panda’s Profile
Donation Trade Link
Group Page
Sign-Up Sheet

Team list

Challonge N. 1
Challonge N. 2

[img]http://i.imgur.com/tjrmZIZ.png[/img]
Hey there.

[b]Panda Pugs is excited to announce its first tournament sponsored by EVL Gaming! [/b]
Everything you need to know about the tournament will be listed and answered here by either Akinfenwa, Panda Dave, or I. However, [url=http://steamcommunity.com/id/PandaDave]feel free to PM Panda.[/url]

[b]About[/b]
First off, huge thanks to EVL Gaming for providing game and mumble servers, a stream to cast the event, and money for the prizepool. This tournament would not be possible without them. Now, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams. Due to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence. Please, if this is a problem for you, do not enter yourself in the tournament. This reduces hassle for everyone. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for everybody that comes out to play. (:


[b]Major Details:[/b]
[list]

[*] The tournament will be held June 18-19, which is the 3rd Saturday/Sunday in June. The tournament will start 6:30 est Saturday and will pick up at the same time the next day.

[*] The first night will be played in Round Robin style with the top 4 finalists competing the next night with evlTV to cast. The Round Robin games will only be played with one half so that everyone can play each other in one night.

[*] This tournament will be first come first serve so sign yourself up now! Any potential subs will be called upon through our group page where your team will decide on who to pick. These subs will be your new team members just to ensure security within teams and fair competition. This is also to ensure that team members show up. You can have no more than two subs.

[*] Our mods and admins will take turns monitoring the servers to ensure a fun and organized gaming experience for everyone. Furthermore, if you have any problems we will always be available to help. We will have an “Admin Help” channel for players to stop by and discuss any issues they may face.
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[b]Rules[/b]
The tournament is going to be held with standard pug rules. However, we have thrown in some other rules to fit the tournament.
[list]
[*] Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
[*] Your team must be ready to play 10 minutes after scheduled time or you must suffer a forfeit loss.

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[b]Prize Pool: [/b]
The current prize pool is 18 keys provided by EVL Gaming. These keys will only be given to the winning team of the tournament. Donations to increase the prize pool are accepted. [url=http://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=10145367&token=zP0cvcEW]You can donate here.[/url]

[u][i][b][url=http://goo.gl/forms/xUjyZzFMAVruR6Xe2]Sign Up sheet[/url][/b][/i][/u] (You can sign up to play multiple classes)

[b]References[/b]
If by any chance you did not see a link you are looking for we have them all listed down here.
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/id/PandaDave]Panda’s Profile[/url]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/tradeoffer/new/?partner=10145367&token=zP0cvcEW]Donation Trade Link[/url]
[url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/PandaPugs]Group Page[/url]
[url=http://goo.gl/forms/xUjyZzFMAVruR6Xe2]Sign-Up Sheet[/url]

[url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rnyMw0tpAC8kD4cPBUf-s684uXELXZ10TqaJKQy7SIY/edit?usp=sharing]Team list[/url]

[url=http://challonge.com/PPugs]Challonge N. 1[/url]
[url=http://challonge.com/PPugsFinals]Challonge N. 2[/url]
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Smesi
  • No off-classing to mid
  • Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
  • You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
  • You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.

[quote=Smesi]
[list]
[*] No off-classing to mid
[*] Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
[*] You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
[*] You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.[/quote]

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.
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#3
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I feel like you don't really need these pug rules for a tournament, people should be allowed to play however they think is optimal.

I feel like you don't really need these pug rules for a tournament, people should be allowed to play however they think is optimal.
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#4
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imagine my sniper game is top notch on the day of the match and it's process

my team should be allowed to run me sniper wherever they want, even to mid

imagine my sniper game is top notch on the day of the match and it's process

my team should be allowed to run me sniper wherever they want, even to mid
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#5
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can i speak to the manager i really want to fight a sniper on tf2 midfights

can i speak to the manager i really want to fight a sniper on tf2 midfights
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KevinIsPwnSmesi
  • No off-classing to mid
  • Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
  • You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
  • You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.
SmesiDue to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence.

Since teams will be newly formed, they probably won't have the coordination to deal swiftly and effectively with Snipers and other offclasses. Also, the tournament is promoting a PUG group, so they probably want players to enjoy an environment similar to what may be found in Panda Pugs. And teams would get screwed over if they didn't get a good Sniper placed on their team.

[quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=Smesi]
[list]
[*] No off-classing to mid
[*] Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
[*] You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
[*] You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.[/quote]

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.[/quote]
[quote=Smesi]Due to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence.[/quote]
Since teams will be newly formed, they probably won't have the coordination to deal swiftly and effectively with Snipers and other offclasses. Also, the tournament is promoting a PUG group, so they probably want players to enjoy an environment similar to what may be found in Panda Pugs. And teams would get screwed over if they didn't get a good Sniper placed on their team.
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#7
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can I get placed in a stacked team if I donate

can I get placed in a stacked team if I donate
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#8
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Can EU players participate?

Can EU players participate?
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#9
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I would but I'm trash soooo

I would but I'm trash soooo
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Hunter_2_0I would but I'm trash soooo

Doesn't matter how good you are currently, can't get better if you don't test your limits, plus its free to enter so why not.

[quote=Hunter_2_0]I would but I'm trash soooo[/quote]
Doesn't matter how good you are currently, can't get better if you don't test your limits, plus its free to enter so why not.
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#11
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my body is ready

my body is ready
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#12
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neato, when will we know our teams?

neato, when will we know our teams?
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will admins be playing in the tournament?

will admins be playing in the tournament?
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#14
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will the servers actually be good during the tournament, unlike the ultiduo tournament?

will the servers actually be good during the tournament, unlike the ultiduo tournament?
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#15
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pendawill admins be playing in the tournament?

The last time the moderators and admins talked on the event, it was indicated very explicitly that the moderators and admins will be refrained from participation and encouraged to volunteer to help the event run smoothly.

[quote=penda]will admins be playing in the tournament?[/quote]

The last time the moderators and admins talked on the event, it was indicated very explicitly that the moderators and admins will be refrained from participation and encouraged to volunteer to help the event run smoothly.
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BilbertKevinIsPwnSmesi
  • No off-classing to mid
  • Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
  • You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
  • You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.
SmesiDue to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence.Since teams will be newly formed, they probably won't have the coordination to deal swiftly and effectively with Snipers and other offclasses. Also, the tournament is promoting a PUG group, so they probably want players to enjoy an environment similar to what may be found in Panda Pugs. And teams would get screwed over if they didn't get a good Sniper placed on their team.

those pug rules should not be there for the reasons you stated, they should be there to prevent people from screwing their own team over by being less competitive.
banning a class in a specific situation in a TOURNAMENT is so retarded, the only rule that makes sense is:

Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.

which serves the purpose of all the other rules incase someone is not doing well when offclassing and yet continues to do so, which could be considered as inentional throwing, but if they are doing well you should let them offclass if their own team is ok with it

[quote=Bilbert][quote=KevinIsPwn][quote=Smesi]
[list]
[*] No off-classing to mid
[*] Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.
[*] You cannot continue to off-class after a stalemate/hold. Once your team is taking back your own point(s), you must switch back to your set class.
[*] You may not switch classes with someone else during a game in the tournament. However, if you and another player decide to switch classes/roles between games, that must be agreed upon between all of your team.[/quote]

Why though? Just make the opposing team punish them.[/quote]
[quote=Smesi]Due to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence.[/quote]
Since teams will be newly formed, they probably won't have the coordination to deal swiftly and effectively with Snipers and other offclasses. Also, the tournament is promoting a PUG group, so they probably want players to enjoy an environment similar to what may be found in Panda Pugs. And teams would get screwed over if they didn't get a good Sniper placed on their team.[/quote]

those pug rules should not be there for the reasons you stated, they should be there to prevent people from screwing their own team over by being less competitive.
banning a class in a specific situation in a TOURNAMENT is so retarded, the only rule that makes sense is:

Any intentional throwing will get you kicked out of the tournament and you will be replaced.

which serves the purpose of all the other rules incase someone is not doing well when offclassing and yet continues to do so, which could be considered as inentional throwing, but if they are doing well you should let them offclass if their own team is ok with it
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yes but it is annoying as fuck to play against a heavy on mid

yes but it is annoying as fuck to play against a heavy on mid
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#18
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why make this such a big deal rofl if you dont like the offclassing rules dont sign up
literally im sure a lot of you would rather not play against a retard sniper on mid or some shit

why make this such a big deal rofl if you dont like the offclassing rules dont sign up
literally im sure a lot of you would rather not play against a retard sniper on mid or some shit
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#19
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saamI feel like you don't really need these pug rules for a tournament, people should be allowed to play however they think is optimal.

We can definitely change these rules. We'd love for you guys to have fun at this tournament without boring rules, however we thought it might bring more structure to our tournament. But, if you guys think off-classing rules aren't that big of a deal in a tournament we can definitely do without them. However do you guys consider spy/pyro/heavy to mid "throwing"?Just let me know by either upvoting/quoting with your opinion please. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for all of you guys.

[quote=saam]I feel like you don't really need these pug rules for a tournament, people should be allowed to play however they think is optimal.[/quote]

We can definitely change these rules. We'd love for you guys to have fun at this tournament without boring rules, however we thought it might bring more structure to our tournament. But, if you guys think off-classing rules aren't that big of a deal in a tournament we can definitely do without them. However do you guys consider spy/pyro/heavy to mid "throwing"?Just let me know by either upvoting/quoting with your opinion please. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for all of you guys.
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#20
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VouriCan EU players participate?

We'd love for you guys to, however I don't think our servers would support you guys. Your high ping would almost render you unplayable.

[quote=Vouri]Can EU players participate?[/quote]

We'd love for you guys to, however I don't think our servers would support you guys. Your high ping would almost render you unplayable.
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#21
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tiptoeswill the servers actually be good during the tournament, unlike the ultiduo tournament?

The servers are from EVL Gaming and are located in Dallas.

[quote=tiptoes]will the servers actually be good during the tournament, unlike the ultiduo tournament?[/quote]

The servers are from EVL Gaming and are located in Dallas.
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#22
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Muteneato, when will we know our teams?

As soon as we have enough players signed up.

[quote=Mute]neato, when will we know our teams?[/quote]

As soon as we have enough players signed up.
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#23
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How much competitive experience is expected from the participants?

How much competitive experience is expected from the participants?
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#24
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Buttface_JonesHow much competitive experience is expected from the participants?Panda-DaveNow, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams.

We say this is a tournament for silver/open, however steel players can participate too. This tournament should not be for extremely new players or extremely experienced players.

[quote=Buttface_Jones]How much competitive experience is expected from the participants?[/quote]

[quote=Panda-Dave]Now, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams.[/quote]

We say this is a tournament for silver/open, however steel players can participate too. This tournament should not be for extremely new players or extremely experienced players.
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#25
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Panda-DaveButtface_JonesHow much competitive experience is expected from the participants?Panda-DaveNow, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams.
We say this is a tournament for silver/open, however steel players can participate too. This tournament should not be for extremely new players or extremely experienced players.

Perfect, thank you!

[quote=Panda-Dave][quote=Buttface_Jones]How much competitive experience is expected from the participants?[/quote]

[quote=Panda-Dave]Now, this is going to be a small, friendly NA 6v6 tournament consisting of 48 players from silver/open to create 8 teams.[/quote]

We say this is a tournament for silver/open, however steel players can participate too. This tournament should not be for extremely new players or extremely experienced players.[/quote]

Perfect, thank you!
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Panda-DaveVouriCan EU players participate?
We'd love for you guys to, however I don't think our servers would support you guys. Your high ping would almost render you unplayable.

If they're East coast, 100ms isn't that bad tbh.

[quote=Panda-Dave][quote=Vouri]Can EU players participate?[/quote]

We'd love for you guys to, however I don't think our servers would support you guys. Your high ping would almost render you unplayable.[/quote]
If they're East coast, 100ms isn't that bad tbh.
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#27
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i know i cant sign my team up but can i at least pair up with someone else? just curious

i know i cant sign my team up but can i at least pair up with someone else? just curious
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#28
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if admins are picking the teams how can someone signing up make sure that they're gonna be playing with people that they enjoy playing with and that are of a similar skill level

playing on a randomly selected toxic pug team doesn't sound fun

if admins are picking the teams how can someone signing up make sure that they're gonna be playing with people that they enjoy playing with and that are of a similar skill level

playing on a randomly selected toxic pug team doesn't sound fun
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#29
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swyif admins are picking the teams how can someone signing up make sure that they're gonna be playing with people that they enjoy playing with and that are of a similar skill level

playing on a randomly selected toxic pug team doesn't sound fun
Panda-DaveDue to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence. Please, if this is a problem for you, do not enter yourself in the tournament. This reduces hassle for everyone. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for everybody that comes out to play. (:
[quote=swy]if admins are picking the teams how can someone signing up make sure that they're gonna be playing with people that they enjoy playing with and that are of a similar skill level

playing on a randomly selected toxic pug team doesn't sound fun[/quote]

[quote=Panda-Dave]Due to the small size of the tournament, teams will be created randomly with admin influence. Please, if this is a problem for you, do not enter yourself in the tournament. This reduces hassle for everyone. We want this to be an enjoyable experience for everybody that comes out to play. (:[/quote]
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#30
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domthewhiteguyi know i cant sign my team up but can i at least pair up with someone else? just curious

That's a great question. However, the answer to that question is going to have to be a no. We discussed this a lot, actually, but we decided that it just makes it a lot harder to create teams with the amount of people that we are hosting. The combinations of the different pairs of people would have to fit with other groups of pairs. This could leave some people that signed up out of the tournament.

[quote=domthewhiteguy]i know i cant sign my team up but can i at least pair up with someone else? just curious[/quote]

That's a great question. However, the answer to that question is going to have to be a no. We discussed this a lot, actually, but we decided that it just makes it a lot harder to create teams with the amount of people that we are hosting. The combinations of the different pairs of people would have to fit with other groups of pairs. This could leave some people that signed up out of the tournament.
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