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Original and Stock???
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#1
0 Frags +

For the most part the top soldiers in NA have all switched to the original
Including:
Rando
Blaze
Ash
Servo
Milo
Showstopper

However the top EU soldier have stayed with stock
Such as:
Mike
Tek
ShaDowBurn
AMS
Kaptain
Zebbosai

So my question to you EU gamers is, why have you stuck with stock?

For the most part the top soldiers in NA have all switched to the original
Including:
Rando
Blaze
Ash
Servo
Milo
Showstopper

However the top EU soldier have stayed with stock
Such as:
Mike
Tek
ShaDowBurn
AMS
Kaptain
Zebbosai

So my question to you EU gamers is, why have you stuck with stock?
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#2
30 Frags +

Its their choice?

Its their choice?
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#3
17 Frags +

Literally doesn't matter. It's all just preference.

Literally doesn't matter. It's all just preference.
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#4
-5 Frags +

Ever heard of personal preferences ?

heh ninja'd

Ever heard of personal preferences ?

heh ninja'd
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#5
48 Frags +

it's obviously because the noob soldiers in america need a crutch to compete with their superior european counterparts

it's obviously because the noob soldiers in america need a crutch to compete with their superior european counterparts
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#6
26 Frags +

stock rocket launcher is a gimmick

stock rocket launcher is a gimmick
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#7
8 Frags +

http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/262455/cock-launcher-vs-stock-rl

SeagullThere's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:
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For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.
http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/262455/cock-launcher-vs-stock-rl

[quote=Seagull]There's a few spam angles that are only possible with the original. I used this one everytime my medic was climbing spire on badlands:

[spoiler]http://i.imgur.com/NjYfQbT.jpg?1[/spoiler]

For this reason alone I think it's objectively better.

I also think it's better for the current map pool's corners. Lots of people think it just equalizes out since you're better at some corners and worse at others, but it really doesn't. Some corners matter a lot more, like peeking top when defending badlands last. It's way easier to peek that with the original than the normal RL. I actually went through most maps and figured I should swap to left-handed models, but decided against it since I valued the spam angles + easier pogo routes with the original.[/quote]
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#8
33 Frags +
PwnuFor the most part the top soldiers in NA have all switched to the original
Including:
Rando
Blaze
Ash
Servo
Milo
Showstopper

blaze has used it forever
ash has used it forever afaik
milo has used it forever
showstopper follows the crowd

[quote=Pwnu]For the most part the top soldiers in NA have all switched to the original
Including:
Rando
Blaze
Ash
Servo
Milo
Showstopper
[/quote]
blaze has used it forever
ash has used it forever afaik
milo has used it forever
showstopper follows the crowd
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#9
10 Frags +

Not just choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWoA6B9VfQ

Not just choice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwWoA6B9VfQ
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#10
66 Frags +
Pwnutop soldiers in NA
Showstopper

LOL !

[quote=Pwnu]top soldiers in NA
Showstopper
[/quote]

LOL !
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#11
-31 Frags +

I have the impression those EU soldiers have better DM and more MGE time, so they just stuck with what they're used to.

Also, B4nny uses the stock RL afaik and I'd say he's a top soldier in NA. He used to say something about spamming over the boxes in Snakewater being easier/only possible with the stock.

I have the impression those EU soldiers have better DM and more MGE time, so they just stuck with what they're used to.

Also, B4nny uses the stock RL afaik and I'd say he's a top soldier in NA. He used to say something about spamming over the boxes in Snakewater being easier/only possible with the stock.
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#12
21 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/QymUPLn.jpg

[img]http://i.imgur.com/QymUPLn.jpg[/img]
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#13
5 Frags +

Also is it just me or is it harder to pinpoint the location of the sound that the original makes? If that's the case, then that's another reason to run it over the stock, even though it's negligible.

Also is it just me or is it harder to pinpoint the location of the sound that the original makes? If that's the case, then that's another reason to run it over the stock, even though it's negligible.
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#14
3 Frags +

There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

I've peronally switched between these 2 a couple of times.Would keep using Original if there were reskins of other unlocks like Black Box or Direct Hit with rockets firing the same way they do on Original.

There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

I've peronally switched between these 2 a couple of times.Would keep using Original if there were reskins of other unlocks like Black Box or Direct Hit with rockets firing the same way they do on Original.
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#15
3 Frags +
rage1There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

zoob's been using stock recently

[quote=rage1]There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).
[/quote]

zoob's been using stock recently
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#16
8 Frags +

if we oversimplify things - stock is better for jumps, original is easier to aim.
and whats new guys

if we oversimplify things - stock is better for jumps, original is easier to aim.
and whats new guys
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#17
1 Frags +
popcorprage1There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

zoob's been using stock recently

Don't remember anyone else using Original in EU. Darn did, but can't tell for how long he sticked with it.

[quote=popcorp][quote=rage1]There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).
[/quote]

zoob's been using stock recently[/quote]
Don't remember anyone else using Original in EU. Darn did, but can't tell for how long he sticked with it.
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#18
9 Frags +
rage1popcorprage1There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

zoob's been using stock recently
Don't remember anyone else using Original in EU. Darn did, but can't tell for how long he sticked with it.

Until he was forced out of the scene by Ipz and his compatriot Sonny Black in the aftermaths of the scandalous vinland vs Infused game. He lives on as a legend in our hearts.

[quote=rage1][quote=popcorp][quote=rage1]There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).
[/quote]

zoob's been using stock recently[/quote]
Don't remember anyone else using Original in EU. Darn did, but can't tell for how long he sticked with it.[/quote]

Until he was forced out of the scene by Ipz and his compatriot Sonny Black in the aftermaths of the scandalous vinland vs Infused game. He lives on as a legend in our hearts.
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#19
3 Frags +

I remember a long time ago, they changed how the original sounded, it was hella louder, I literally made the switch to fuck with their sound and kept using it ever since.

I remember a long time ago, they changed how the original sounded, it was hella louder, I literally made the switch to fuck with their sound and kept using it ever since.
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#20
5 Frags +

Thing to note - the rocket comes out of the played lower on the Original than on stock, which can make shooting down from spires a bit harder. More chance to do/do more self-damage, have to expose yourself more etc...

Thing to note - the rocket comes out of the played lower on the Original than on stock, which can make shooting down from spires a bit harder. More chance to do/do more self-damage, have to expose yourself more etc...
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#21
2 Frags +
rage1There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).

platinum uses stock also

[quote=rage1]There're NA Soldiers who use stock (lansky, TLR, b4nny).
There're EU Soldiers who use Original (zoob).[/quote]

platinum uses stock also
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#22
-2 Frags +

A lot of people seem to disagree with my previous post. I'm curious to see if any of the aforementioned soldiers who stuck with the stock RL says why he did so. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mike, B4nny and TLR already say something along the lines that they're already pretty good with it and the change wasn't worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQgs0WVN0rk In the comments of this video TLR says he hits more with the RL.

Maybe I got downfragged due to my DM comment. I said that as a justification as to why they might of thought the adaptation wasn't worth it. On the Original side you have Rando, Blaze and Seagull, ok, but using the RL are Mike, Tek, SDB, B4nny, TLR, Plat, Kaptain, Zebbosai... All some of the most experienced, top team, famous for DM soldiers of the game.

Edit: just remembered another MGE comp beast also uses the stock, Ma3la.

A lot of people seem to disagree with my previous post. I'm curious to see if any of the aforementioned soldiers who stuck with the stock RL says why he did so. I'm pretty sure I've heard Mike, B4nny and TLR already say something along the lines that they're already pretty good with it and the change wasn't worth it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQgs0WVN0rk In the comments of this video TLR says he hits more with the RL.

Maybe I got downfragged due to my DM comment. I said that as a justification as to why they might of thought the adaptation wasn't worth it. On the Original side you have Rando, Blaze and Seagull, ok, but using the RL are Mike, Tek, SDB, B4nny, TLR, Plat, Kaptain, Zebbosai... All some of the most experienced, top team, famous for DM soldiers of the game.

Edit: just remembered another MGE comp beast also uses the stock, Ma3la.
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#23
14 Frags +

i55 will decide the superior rocket launcher once and for all

i55 will decide the superior rocket launcher once and for all
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#24
2 Frags +
hektiksnip

you don't make it to the top of invite without spending several thousand hours practicing your DM
and the only people from your stock list that actually have noticeably better DM than your original list are mike and platinum and MAYBE kaptain and banny

some people made the switch to original and kept with it, some switched back and some never switched
it really is that simple
as for why there is more people who switched in NA, it's simply because some people started a trend and stuck with it and the rest followed on later

EU never really had that trend starter

[quote=hektik]snip[/quote]
you don't make it to the top of invite without spending several thousand hours practicing your DM
and the only people from your stock list that actually have noticeably better DM than your original list are mike and platinum and [u]MAYBE[/u] kaptain and banny

some people made the switch to original and kept with it, some switched back and some never switched
it really is that simple
as for why there is more people who switched in NA, it's simply because some people started a trend and stuck with it and the rest followed on later

EU never really had that trend starter
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#25
3 Frags +

I personally like stock, because you only need to do a 90 Degree turn for a good-distance vertical jump. Another downside to the original is that the rocket smoke is RIGHT in your face. It sort of disorients me and makes it harder for me to see players through the smoke, but that's really a personal problem and most would call it 'placebo'.

I legitimately tried to switch to the original before, but I was ended up pretty much taking the position of the 'weird dude' on jump servers, I couldn't rocket jump as well, and when switching back I actually landed a LOT more double airshots with the normal rl.

Placebo or not, I just feel more comfortable with the normal RL.

I personally like stock, because you only need to do a 90 Degree turn for a good-distance vertical jump. Another downside to the original is that the rocket smoke is RIGHT in your face. It sort of disorients me and makes it harder for me to see players through the smoke, but that's really a personal problem and most would call it 'placebo'.

I legitimately tried to switch to the original before, but I was ended up pretty much taking the position of the 'weird dude' on jump servers, I couldn't rocket jump as well, and when switching back I actually landed a LOT more double airshots with the normal rl.

Placebo or not, I just feel more comfortable with the normal RL.
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