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I recently decided that I wanted to make a new build, so what do you guys think of these specs?

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (x2)
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (x2)
Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Haven't decided on a case yet, if you have any suggestions please tell me :D
Also, should I get the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card or this: Your text to link here...

~thanks~

I recently decided that I wanted to make a new build, so what do you guys think of these specs?

Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Corsair H110 94.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler
MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (x2)
Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (x2)
Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply

Haven't decided on a case yet, if you have any suggestions please tell me :D
Also, should I get the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card or this: [url=http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CUIVSNS?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=ACO27ZEUBKBAF&tag=teamfortresst-20]Your text to link here...[/url]

~thanks~
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http://www.teamfortress.tv/19556/pc-build-help-

http://www.teamfortress.tv/19556/pc-build-help-
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if its only for gaming u should honestly go with an i5

if its only for gaming u should honestly go with an i5
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aim-if its only for gaming u should honestly go with an i5

I do use it for photography and video editing, so I might need the extra power, but I will keep that in mind- what i5 do you suggest? Also, which of the two graphics cards should I pick?

[quote=aim-]if its only for gaming u should honestly go with an i5[/quote]

I do use it for photography and video editing, so I might need the extra power, but I will keep that in mind- what i5 do you suggest? Also, which of the two graphics cards should I pick?
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if you want the i5, get the 4690k

obligatory quote from setsul

Setsul
The usual disclaimer:
Now is the worst time to build/upgrade, (GPU prices are still settling and)new CPUs are one month away.

I'd choose the 970 because 780 appears to have diminishing reterns for 150% the price.

if you want the i5, get the 4690k

obligatory quote from setsul
[quote]Setsul
The usual disclaimer:
Now is the worst time to build/upgrade, (GPU prices are still settling and)new CPUs are one month away.[/quote]

I'd choose the 970 because 780 appears to have diminishing reterns for 150% the price.
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Wouldn't it be best to get a 390 for the same price instead? I am planning on buying one and afaik it has the same performance if not more in most games compared to the 970 and has 8gb vram.

Wouldn't it be best to get a 390 for the same price instead? I am planning on buying one and afaik it has the same performance if not more in most games compared to the 970 and has 8gb vram.
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cmeif you want the i5, get the 4690k

obligatory quote from setsulSetsul
The usual disclaimer:
Now is the worst time to build/upgrade, (GPU prices are still settling and)new CPUs are one month away.

I'd choose the 970 because 780 appears to have diminishing reterns for 150% the price.

What are the new CPU's coming out? And, If I have some extra cash to blow, do you suggest buying this: Your text to link here...

[quote=cme]if you want the i5, get the 4690k

obligatory quote from setsul
[quote]Setsul
The usual disclaimer:
Now is the worst time to build/upgrade, (GPU prices are still settling and)new CPUs are one month away.[/quote]

I'd choose the 970 because 780 appears to have diminishing reterns for 150% the price.[/quote]

What are the new CPU's coming out? And, If I have some extra cash to blow, do you suggest buying this: [url=http://www.bestbuy.com/site/nvidia-geforce-gtx-980-4gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-silver-black/9855141.p?id=1219441205886&]Your text to link here...[/url]
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Do yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.

Do yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.
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ViperDo yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.

Do you have a suggestion/recommendation for one?

[quote=Viper]Do yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.[/quote]

Do you have a suggestion/recommendation for one?
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decderViperDo yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.
Do you have a suggestion/recommendation for one?

If you want to stick to Corsair for brand loyalty, you could get an RM450. Don't rule out SeaSonic though, their PSU's are really nice.

[quote=decder][quote=Viper]Do yourself a favor and get a fully modular power supply.[/quote]

Do you have a suggestion/recommendation for one?[/quote]
If you want to stick to Corsair for brand loyalty, you could get an RM450. Don't rule out SeaSonic though, their PSU's are really nice.
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First of all: budget?

H110 is a colossal waste of money.
Why not 850 Pro?
CX430 is the absolute minimum quality that I can still safely recommend. There's no need to save 20$ on the PSU when you're spending 1000$. Generally if you're spending less than 5% of your budget on the PSU you're skimping out.

Also Xeon = cheaper, unless you plan on using quicksync or want to overclock.

6700K getting released in 4 days, calm your tits.

#11
Brand loyalty for PSUs is retarded, different platforms by the same manufacturer can perform completely different.
Oh and Corsair doesn't manufacture PSUs at all.
CX430 is built by CWT, as is the RM450.
Let's not forget that two models in the RM series required two revisions and switching the OEM before they even worked. And then there's the glorious CWT quality control (if it exists at all) that managed to miss that some units were missing parts.

So even if the RM series wasn't horribly overpriced, I'd stay as far away from them as possible.

First of all: budget?

H110 is a colossal waste of money.
Why not 850 Pro?
CX430 is the absolute minimum quality that I can still safely recommend. There's no need to save 20$ on the PSU when you're spending 1000$. Generally if you're spending less than 5% of your budget on the PSU you're skimping out.

Also Xeon = cheaper, unless you plan on using quicksync or want to overclock.

6700K getting released in 4 days, calm your tits.

#11
Brand loyalty for PSUs is retarded, different platforms by the same manufacturer can perform completely different.
Oh and Corsair doesn't manufacture PSUs at all.
CX430 is built by CWT, as is the RM450.
Let's not forget that two models in the RM series required two revisions and switching the OEM before they even worked. And then there's the glorious CWT quality control (if it exists at all) that managed to miss that some units were missing parts.

So even if the RM series wasn't horribly overpriced, I'd stay as far away from them as possible.
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SetsulFirst of all: budget?

H110 is a colossal waste of money.
Why not 850 Pro?
CX430 is the absolute minimum quality that I can still safely recommend. There's no need to save 20$ on the PSU when you're spending 1000$. Generally if you're spending less than 5% of your budget on the PSU you're skimping out.

Also Xeon = cheaper, unless you plan on using quicksync or want to overclock.

6700K getting released in 4 days, calm your tits.

#11
Brand loyalty for PSUs is retarded, different platforms by the same manufacturer can perform completely different.
Oh and Corsair doesn't manufacture PSUs at all.
CX430 is built by CWT, as is the RM450.
Let's not forget that two models in the RM series required two revisions and switching the OEM before they even worked. And then there's the glorious CWT quality control (if it exists at all) that managed to miss that some units were missing parts.

So even if the RM series wasn't horribly overpriced, I'd stay as far away from them as possible.

Thanks, I have no brand loyalty to anything whatsoever. On anything other than peripherals. Budget is probably about 1500 bucks. Do you have an estimate of what the 6700k is gonna cost when it comes out? Also, what type of cooling would you suggest for this build? Being I'd have a pretty beefy graphics card, and a pretty powerful processor along with a full modular power supply.

[quote=Setsul]First of all: budget?

H110 is a colossal waste of money.
Why not 850 Pro?
CX430 is the absolute minimum quality that I can still safely recommend. There's no need to save 20$ on the PSU when you're spending 1000$. Generally if you're spending less than 5% of your budget on the PSU you're skimping out.

Also Xeon = cheaper, unless you plan on using quicksync or want to overclock.

6700K getting released in 4 days, calm your tits.

#11
Brand loyalty for PSUs is retarded, different platforms by the same manufacturer can perform completely different.
Oh and Corsair doesn't manufacture PSUs at all.
CX430 is built by CWT, as is the RM450.
Let's not forget that two models in the RM series required two revisions and switching the OEM before they even worked. And then there's the glorious CWT quality control (if it exists at all) that managed to miss that some units were missing parts.

So even if the RM series wasn't horribly overpriced, I'd stay as far away from them as possible.[/quote]

Thanks, I have no brand loyalty to anything whatsoever. On anything other than peripherals. Budget is probably about 1500 bucks. Do you have an estimate of what the 6700k is gonna cost when it comes out? Also, what type of cooling would you suggest for this build? Being I'd have a pretty beefy graphics card, and a pretty powerful processor along with a full modular power supply.
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Crystall ball says 340-350$.
Wait for the full lineup and some more motherboards though.
Do you definitely want to overclock? Skylake actually has a chance at being a good overclocker, but nothing's for certain yet.
Not sure if I understand the cooling question, do you have any alternatives to air cooling in mind? AIO liquid coolers are useless and a custom loop doesn't fit the budget. I'm genuinely confused how a modular PSU is supposed to affect cooling. Proper case with bottom intake for the PSU and case fans and there shouldn't be any problems.

Crystall ball says 340-350$.
Wait for the full lineup and some more motherboards though.
Do you definitely want to overclock? Skylake actually has a chance at being a good overclocker, but nothing's for certain yet.
Not sure if I understand the cooling question, do you have any alternatives to air cooling in mind? AIO liquid coolers are useless and a custom loop doesn't fit the budget. I'm genuinely confused how a modular PSU is supposed to affect cooling. Proper case with bottom intake for the PSU and case fans and there shouldn't be any problems.
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SetsulCrystall ball says 340-350$.
Wait for the full lineup and some more motherboards though.
Do you definitely want to overclock? Skylake actually has a chance at being a good overclocker, but nothing's for certain yet.
Not sure if I understand the cooling question, do you have any alternatives to air cooling in mind? AIO liquid coolers are useless and a custom loop doesn't fit the budget. I'm genuinely confused how a modular PSU is supposed to affect cooling. Proper case with bottom intake for the PSU and case fans and there shouldn't be any problems.

I'm just gonna go with the i7 4790k 4.0 GHz, I can buy for 279.99- Also, it's unlikely I'm going to overclock. I would like I decent CPU cooler, (definitely air cooled). I am going to need a decent amount of power for this thing, so I'm not quite sure what power supply to get. Or honestly, what case I'm going to purchase either. Do you have any recommendations for these?

*edit* do you think the current motherboard I have is a bad idea?

[quote=Setsul]Crystall ball says 340-350$.
Wait for the full lineup and some more motherboards though.
Do you definitely want to overclock? Skylake actually has a chance at being a good overclocker, but nothing's for certain yet.
Not sure if I understand the cooling question, do you have any alternatives to air cooling in mind? AIO liquid coolers are useless and a custom loop doesn't fit the budget. I'm genuinely confused how a modular PSU is supposed to affect cooling. Proper case with bottom intake for the PSU and case fans and there shouldn't be any problems.[/quote]

I'm just gonna go with the i7 4790k 4.0 GHz, I can buy for 279.99- Also, it's unlikely I'm going to overclock. I would like I decent CPU cooler, (definitely air cooled). I am going to need a decent amount of power for this thing, so I'm not quite sure what power supply to get. Or honestly, what case I'm going to purchase either. Do you have any recommendations for these?

*edit* do you think the current motherboard I have is a bad idea?
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We're talking 340-350$ MSRP, for the 4790K that's 339$. I'm fairly sure microcenter will get the 6700K aswell.
If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version. The 6700 is going to be cheaper. If you can live without the iGPU Xeons become an option. You also won't need a Z series motherboard. All in all around 200$ saved.

Stock cooler is absolutely fine if you're not overclocking. I'd only replace it if you think it's too loud and you can still do that later.

I think you're overestimating the power draw. Without OC all CPUs that are worth considering are <100W. The GPU is where it gets insteresting, the GTX 970 got a 145W TDP, the R9 390 sits at 275W TDP.

Yes, if you're not going to overclock a Z97 mobo is a waste of money.

Don't rush this. If nothing else new CPUs and new mobos mean price drops for the old ones. Even waiting only a week will save you money.

We're talking 340-350$ MSRP, for the 4790K that's 339$. I'm fairly sure microcenter will get the 6700K aswell.
If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version. The 6700 is going to be cheaper. If you can live without the iGPU Xeons become an option. You also won't need a Z series motherboard. All in all around 200$ saved.

Stock cooler is absolutely fine if you're not overclocking. I'd only replace it if you think it's too loud and you can still do that later.

I think you're overestimating the power draw. Without OC all CPUs that are worth considering are <100W. The GPU is where it gets insteresting, the GTX 970 got a 145W TDP, the R9 390 sits at 275W TDP.

Yes, if you're not going to overclock a Z97 mobo is a waste of money.

Don't rush this. If nothing else new CPUs and new mobos mean price drops for the old ones. Even waiting only a week will save you money.
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mobo is fine, it is more geared for over clocking(if you ever want that opotion for the future). tbh you would be fine with a micro atx board if you aren't doing sli. just make sure it has 6gb/s sata connectors (although there aren't may boards that don't these days.

edit some stuff I said was ninjad :c

mobo is fine, it is more geared for over clocking(if you ever want that opotion for the future). tbh you would be fine with a micro atx board if you aren't doing sli. just make sure it has 6gb/s sata connectors (although there aren't may boards that don't these days.

edit some stuff I said was ninjad :c
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If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version.

I don't necessarily agree- there's some reasons I would still consider it:

  • you get a higher base clock/turbo on i7-4790k/i7-6700k as its practically pre-overclocked for you..you're likely not achieving that with any non-k models
  • There is a bigger resale market for the processor if its a K version, and if paired with a Z series motherboard its going to be even easier sell as a combo.
  • Most importantly you maintain the option to OC down the road if you start to be CPU constrained and want to give it a shot (its extremely easy to OC nowadays). When most people say they aren't going to OC it means they are intimidated by the process. As an example I didn't OC my e6600 until 5 years after I had used it (it was beginning to be a large constraint)...but I was able to squeeze another year and a half out of it by tinkering. Now I'm using i7-4790k and not currently overclocking, but have that option open.
[quote]If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version.[/quote]
I don't necessarily agree- there's some reasons I would still consider it:
[list][*]you get a higher base clock/turbo on i7-4790k/i7-6700k as its practically pre-overclocked for you..you're likely not achieving that with any non-k models
[*]There is a bigger resale market for the processor if its a K version, and if paired with a Z series motherboard its going to be even easier sell as a combo.
[*]Most importantly you maintain the option to OC down the road if you start to be CPU constrained and want to give it a shot (its extremely easy to OC nowadays). When most people say they aren't going to OC it means they are intimidated by the process. As an example I didn't OC my e6600 until 5 years after I had used it (it was beginning to be a large constraint)...but I was able to squeeze another year and a half out of it by tinkering. Now I'm using i7-4790k and not currently overclocking, but have that option open.
[/list]
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SetsulWe're talking 340-350$ MSRP, for the 4790K that's 339$. I'm fairly sure microcenter will get the 6700K aswell.
If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version. The 6700 is going to be cheaper. If you can live without the iGPU Xeons become an option. You also won't need a Z series motherboard. All in all around 200$ saved.

Stock cooler is absolutely fine if you're not overclocking. I'd only replace it if you think it's too loud and you can still do that later.

I think you're overestimating the power draw. Without OC all CPUs that are worth considering are <100W. The GPU is where it gets insteresting, the GTX 970 got a 145W TDP, the R9 390 sits at 275W TDP.

Yes, if you're not going to overclock a Z97 mobo is a waste of money.

Don't rush this. If nothing else new CPUs and new mobos mean price drops for the old ones. Even waiting only a week will save you money.

Oh, don't worry. I'm not gonna rush this. I have to wait for another few pay checks to seal the deal, but I'm interested in any suggestions for mobos. (Preferably under 200$)

[quote=Setsul]We're talking 340-350$ MSRP, for the 4790K that's 339$. I'm fairly sure microcenter will get the 6700K aswell.
If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version. The 6700 is going to be cheaper. If you can live without the iGPU Xeons become an option. You also won't need a Z series motherboard. All in all around 200$ saved.

Stock cooler is absolutely fine if you're not overclocking. I'd only replace it if you think it's too loud and you can still do that later.

I think you're overestimating the power draw. Without OC all CPUs that are worth considering are <100W. The GPU is where it gets insteresting, the GTX 970 got a 145W TDP, the R9 390 sits at 275W TDP.

Yes, if you're not going to overclock a Z97 mobo is a waste of money.

Don't rush this. If nothing else new CPUs and new mobos mean price drops for the old ones. Even waiting only a week will save you money.[/quote]

Oh, don't worry. I'm not gonna rush this. I have to wait for another few pay checks to seal the deal, but I'm interested in any suggestions for mobos. (Preferably under 200$)
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PheeshIf you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version.I don't necessarily agree- there's some reasons I would still consider it:
  • you get a higher base clock/turbo on i7-4790k/i7-6700k as its practically pre-overclocked for you..you're likely not achieving that with any non-k models
  • There is a bigger resale market for the processor if its a K version, and if paired with a Z series motherboard its going to be even easier sell as a combo.
  • Most importantly you maintain the option to OC down the road if you start to be CPU constrained and want to give it a shot (its extremely easy to OC nowadays). When most people say they aren't going to OC it means they are intimidated by the process. As an example I didn't OC my e6600 until 5 years after I had used it (it was beginning to be a large constraint)...but I was able to squeeze another year and a half out of it by tinkering. Now I'm using i7-4790k and not currently overclocking, but have that option open.

Right, and I probably will eventually OC. Any suggestions on cases. (All I really want out of one is it has to be durable, well made, and it must have really good airflow. Because if I do end up OC'ing the GPU and CPU, I'd like to have really good air cooling.

[quote=Pheesh][quote]If you're not going to overclock there's no reason for a K version.[/quote]
I don't necessarily agree- there's some reasons I would still consider it:
[list][*]you get a higher base clock/turbo on i7-4790k/i7-6700k as its practically pre-overclocked for you..you're likely not achieving that with any non-k models
[*]There is a bigger resale market for the processor if its a K version, and if paired with a Z series motherboard its going to be even easier sell as a combo.
[*]Most importantly you maintain the option to OC down the road if you start to be CPU constrained and want to give it a shot (its extremely easy to OC nowadays). When most people say they aren't going to OC it means they are intimidated by the process. As an example I didn't OC my e6600 until 5 years after I had used it (it was beginning to be a large constraint)...but I was able to squeeze another year and a half out of it by tinkering. Now I'm using i7-4790k and not currently overclocking, but have that option open.
[/list][/quote]

Right, and I probably will eventually OC. Any suggestions on cases. (All I really want out of one is it has to be durable, well made, and it must have really good airflow. Because if I do end up OC'ing the GPU and CPU, I'd like to have really good air cooling.
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1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.

http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg

2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value...
3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.
You won't get overclocks that yield +50% longer lifespan. Not anymore.
When overclocking is almost free or at least having the option is almost free (and the cooler is extra but you don't need to buy one until you actually need it) then you might be able to save money. If you have to pay a premium for both CPU and mobo it's not happening.

Keep an eye out for skylake base clock overclocking, especially on non Z mobos.

1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.
[img]http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg[/img]
2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value...
3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.
You won't get overclocks that yield +50% longer lifespan. Not anymore.
When overclocking is almost free or at least having the option is almost free (and the cooler is extra but you don't need to buy one until you actually need it) then you might be able to save money. If you have to pay a premium for both CPU and mobo it's not happening.

Keep an eye out for skylake base clock overclocking, especially on non Z mobos.
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Setsul1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.
http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg
2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value...
3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.
You won't get overclocks that yield +50% longer lifespan. Not anymore.
When overclocking is almost free or at least having the option is almost free (and the cooler is extra but you don't need to buy one until you actually need it) then you might be able to save money. If you have to pay a premium for both CPU and mobo it's not happening.

Keep an eye out for skylake base clock overclocking, especially on non Z mobos.

I think this is what I've decided on getting for CPU and GPU, as well as ram.

Intel i7 4790k 4.0 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Motherboard: Not sure, I'd like someone to give me a recommendation.

[quote=Setsul]1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.
[img]http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg[/img]
2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value...
3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.
You won't get overclocks that yield +50% longer lifespan. Not anymore.
When overclocking is almost free or at least having the option is almost free (and the cooler is extra but you don't need to buy one until you actually need it) then you might be able to save money. If you have to pay a premium for both CPU and mobo it's not happening.

Keep an eye out for skylake base clock overclocking, especially on non Z mobos.[/quote]

I think this is what I've decided on getting for CPU and GPU, as well as ram.

Intel i7 4790k 4.0 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 4GB GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0
Motherboard: Not sure, I'd like someone to give me a recommendation.
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I would wait for skylake which should be coming out later this month. IMO just doesn't seem right to build a new rig with 1-2 year old technology. Skylake is not that much faster though, 5-10% in most benchmarks.

Skylake motherboards will have boards supporting DDR3 and DDR4. I'd go Skylake + DDR4.

I would wait for skylake which should be coming out later this month. IMO just doesn't seem right to build a new rig with 1-2 year old technology. Skylake is not that much faster though, 5-10% in most benchmarks.

Skylake motherboards will have boards supporting DDR3 and DDR4. I'd go Skylake + DDR4.
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dollarlayerI would wait for skylake which should be coming out later this month. IMO just doesn't seem right to build a new rig with 1-2 year old technology. Skylake is not that much faster though, 5-10% in most benchmarks.

Skylake motherboards will have boards supporting DDR3 and DDR4. I'd go Skylake + DDR4.

What Do the motherboards out right now only support ddr3? I haven't built a pc in a while.

[quote=dollarlayer]I would wait for skylake which should be coming out later this month. IMO just doesn't seem right to build a new rig with 1-2 year old technology. Skylake is not that much faster though, 5-10% in most benchmarks.

Skylake motherboards will have boards supporting DDR3 and DDR4. I'd go Skylake + DDR4.[/quote]

What Do the motherboards out right now only support ddr3? I haven't built a pc in a while.
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I think I might just wait until the new parts come out so I can buy the older components for cheaper. I'll buy the 4790k and then the GTX 970, or possibly the 980. (if it becomes cheaper)

I think I might just wait until the new parts come out so I can buy the older components for cheaper. I'll buy the 4790k and then the GTX 970, or possibly the 980. (if it becomes cheaper)
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You should get the 390 and the evga gs 550w/650w. The 390 is a much better card, it has better performance and more vram.

You should get the 390 and the evga gs 550w/650w. The 390 is a much better card, it has better performance and more vram.
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#23
Not sure what you mean.

#24
Wait and see if the new CPUs are better, then decide.

#25
Indeed 390 > 970. VRAM won't matter much on 1080p, but even on 1080p it's still faster at the same price. In the US I wouldn't worry about the higher power consumption either.

But about the PSU: G2 >>> GS and the G2 550W is cheaper than the GS 550W atm.

#23
Not sure what you mean.

#24
Wait and see if the new CPUs are better, then decide.

#25
Indeed 390 > 970. VRAM won't matter much on 1080p, but even on 1080p it's still faster at the same price. In the US I wouldn't worry about the higher power consumption either.

But about the PSU: G2 >>> GS and the G2 550W is cheaper than the GS 550W atm.
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@nobelharvards: Nvidia's Pascal won't be out for a while so don't hold your breath. :p

I would wait for skylake to see how well it does. I would have to agree that from the leaks that skylake has great overclocking potential.

I wouldn't hold my breath for substantial cpu price drops on the older gen stuff. Intel pricelocks their cpus. LGA 1150 might drop a little bit in price but even after skylake comes out LGA 2011-3 will be intel's "enthusiast" level offering so I doubt there will be a drop on that. In-store or combo deals from Frys & Microcenter are usually alot better. Just last week Microcenter was running an instore pickup deal on the 5820k for $300 and this week Fry's has a mobo+5820k deal for $499. IIRC there was a great 4790k deal too, forgot what it was though since I was shopping for a 5820k for myself. :\

In terms of PSU's evga is on fire right now for low price/ high quality units. Check out JonnyGuru for reviews on specific models. No reason to buy low tier / barely acceptable psu's when great ones are the same price if not cheaper.

@nobelharvards: Nvidia's Pascal won't be out for a while so don't hold your breath. :p

I would wait for skylake to see how well it does. I would have to agree that from the leaks that skylake has great overclocking potential.

I wouldn't hold my breath for substantial cpu price drops on the older gen stuff. Intel pricelocks their cpus. LGA 1150 might drop a little bit in price but even after skylake comes out LGA 2011-3 will be intel's "enthusiast" level offering so I doubt there will be a drop on that. In-store or combo deals from Frys & Microcenter are usually alot better. Just last week Microcenter was running an instore pickup deal on the 5820k for $300 and this week Fry's has a mobo+5820k deal for $499. IIRC there was a great 4790k deal too, forgot what it was though since I was shopping for a 5820k for myself. :\

In terms of PSU's evga is on fire right now for low price/ high quality units. Check out JonnyGuru for reviews on specific models. No reason to buy low tier / barely acceptable psu's when great ones are the same price if not cheaper.
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Setsul1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.
http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg
2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value..

Yeah that would be nice if they bump up the non-K sku's this round.
Do those components offer you no other benefit during use? Is it really 100$?

3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.

There really doesn't need to be a huge premium to getting a K processor:
i.e. I spent 100 bucks for my z97 motherboard and about 20 bucks for my cooler....and I maintain the ability to OC should I desire to...and there is not a zero sum value difference in the processor and features of the motherboard that I get use out of in those years. Helps if you have a microcenter nearby though.

[quote=Setsul]1. Irrelevant for the 6700K. Base clock from 100 to 105MHz and the 200MHz advantage is gone.
[img]http://benchlife.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/core-i5-6400t.jpg[/img]
2. Spending 100$ to get 50$ higher resale value..[/quote]
Yeah that would be nice if they bump up the non-K sku's this round.
Do those components offer you no other benefit during use? Is it really 100$?
[quote]
3. It's fairly simple. 350$ for cheaper CPU + non-oc mobo vs 500$ or more for high end K CPU + oc mobo + cooler.
Upgrading every 3-3.5 years vs upgrading every 5 years.[/quote]

There really doesn't need to be a huge premium to getting a K processor:
i.e. I spent 100 bucks for my z97 motherboard and about 20 bucks for my cooler....and I maintain the ability to OC should I desire to...and there is not a zero sum value difference in the processor and features of the motherboard that I get use out of in those years. Helps if you have a microcenter nearby though.
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I doubt a 430w psu would push all of that.

I doubt a 430w psu would push all of that.
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