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Cheater/Hacker thread
1471
#1471
11 Frags +

So do you genuinely believe somebody would pay off several UGC admins so that he could cheat in UGC silver? That is fucking stupid.

So do you genuinely believe somebody would pay off several UGC admins so that he could cheat in UGC silver? That is fucking stupid.
1472
#1472
9 Frags +
rickjamesI totally agree I think bo4r is paying them off.

can we not

[quote=rickjames]I totally agree I think bo4r is paying them off.[/quote]

can we not
1473
#1473
6 Frags +

ok rick I think its time to take a chill pill

ok rick I think its time to take a chill pill
1474
#1474
0 Frags +

so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?

so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?
1475
#1475
-2 Frags +
iFY_so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?

Worked for rondego

[quote=iFY_]so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?[/quote]
Worked for rondego
1476
#1476
-1 Frags +
SheoiFY_so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?Worked for rondego

Give me a link to the nearest KND player please.

[quote=Sheo][quote=iFY_]so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?[/quote]
Worked for rondego[/quote]
Give me a link to the nearest KND player please.
1477
#1477
8 Frags +
SheoiFY_so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?Worked for rondego

Just because some of us looked at his povs and didn't think it looked legit doesn't mean we're an extended AC team. For the record the knd mumble doesn't just have knd people, you know.

Also how would you know some of us don't think bo4rs cheating? Because I'm pretty sure some of us that actually have looked at these stvs being posted wouldn't be surprised if he was.

It honestly doesn't matter what we think in the end, but I'm posting this because it's pretty silly that some people legitimately think the entirety of the AC team are people with no experience in how hacks work and just ask platinum players their opinion and go with whatever they say.

[quote=Sheo][quote=iFY_]so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?[/quote]
Worked for rondego[/quote]

Just because some of us looked at his povs and didn't think it looked legit doesn't mean we're an extended AC team. For the record the knd mumble doesn't [i]just[/i] have knd people, you know.

Also how would you know some of us don't think bo4rs cheating? Because I'm pretty sure some of us that actually have looked at these stvs being posted wouldn't be surprised if he was.

It honestly doesn't matter what we think in the end, but I'm posting this because it's pretty silly that some people legitimately think the entirety of the AC team are people with no experience in how hacks work and just ask platinum players their opinion and go with whatever they say.
1478
#1478
1 Frags +

Oh yea bo4r is paying off the UGC guys within his 10 dollar an hour salary so he can play in a free league that doesn't benefit him monetarily :P

Oh yea bo4r is paying off the UGC guys within his 10 dollar an hour salary so he can play in a free league that doesn't benefit him monetarily :P
1479
#1479
12 Frags +

Here's my video on Bo4r.
Things to take note of before watching this:
1) It's the first half of the Glassworks match
2) it's 17 minutes long before it shows EVERY single CLIP they he is alive and he fires off a shot. The clips start when he nears a fight and ends when he dies. No cherry picking clips to make a highlight reel.
3) Video shows both player wireframes on and off to show how god awful goofy wireframes look and how it can at times make it seem like a player is walling.
4) He dies, a ton, to things he should have "seen" on the other side of the wall
5) There's a few instances (and by that I mean 3 at best. I'll annotate the video on the clips mentioned) where he does get a kill that looked like it could have been "walled" but they are also completely doable legit.

If he is walling, it's not anywhere near "BLANTANT" as people are claiming it to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA

Also, I spent a few hours putting this together. Don't act like we don't give a shit and haven't bothered checking into him. You'd be surprised by the amount of demos UGC staff and community folks like myself have looked at on Bo4r (A lot more than what's been posted in this thread, I can assure you that).

Here's my video on Bo4r.
Things to take note of before watching this:
1) It's the first half of the Glassworks match
2) it's 17 minutes long before it shows EVERY single CLIP they he is alive and he fires off a shot. The clips start when he nears a fight and ends when he dies. No cherry picking clips to make a highlight reel.
3) Video shows both player wireframes on and off to show how god awful goofy wireframes look and how it can at times make it seem like a player is walling.
4) He dies, a ton, to things he should have "seen" on the other side of the wall
5) There's a few instances (and by that I mean 3 at best. I'll annotate the video on the clips mentioned) where he does get a kill that looked like it could have been "walled" but they are also completely doable legit.

If he is walling, it's not anywhere near "BLANTANT" as people are claiming it to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA


Also, I spent a few hours putting this together. Don't act like we don't give a shit and haven't bothered checking into him. You'd be surprised by the amount of demos UGC staff and community folks like myself have looked at on Bo4r (A lot more than what's been posted in this thread, I can assure you that).
1480
#1480
1 Frags +
rickjamesI totally agree I think bo4r is paying them off.

Haha yeah I'm an idiot too

If bo4r was hacking I'd be very disappointed in his UGC Silver stats

[quote=rickjames]
I totally agree I think bo4r is paying them off.[/quote]

Haha yeah I'm an idiot too

If bo4r was hacking I'd be very disappointed in his UGC Silver stats
1481
#1481
1 Frags +

Bo4r did not stream his match tonight and I hear he was hacking pretty hard this is what I got.
http://sizzlingstv.s3.amazonaws.com/stv/392592.zip
TICKS
6k-WALLS SNIPER
33K WALLING SNIPER
43K WALLS SNIPER
66K WALLING SNIPER AGAIN
SO MANY WALLS HE COULD BUILD A CITY GTFO BO4R

Bo4r did not stream his match tonight and I hear he was hacking pretty hard this is what I got.
http://sizzlingstv.s3.amazonaws.com/stv/392592.zip
TICKS
6k-WALLS SNIPER
33K WALLING SNIPER
43K WALLS SNIPER
66K WALLING SNIPER AGAIN
SO MANY WALLS HE COULD BUILD A CITY GTFO BO4R
1482
#1482
1 Frags +

You accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw

You accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw
1483
#1483
0 Frags +
DoctorMiggyYou accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw

Nah it messed up when I rendered it I got to redo it.... SO SO SAD

[quote=DoctorMiggy]You accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw[/quote]
Nah it messed up when I rendered it I got to redo it.... SO SO SAD
1484
#1484
1 Frags +
DoctorMiggyHere's my video on Bo4r.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA

All of that localization file updating was worth it.

[quote=DoctorMiggy]Here's my video on Bo4r.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA
[/quote]

All of that localization file updating was worth it.
1485
#1485
15 Frags +

I'm not commenting on this match until bo4r gives me my weekly stipend.

I'm not commenting on this match until bo4r gives me my weekly stipend.
1486
#1486
3 Frags +
BSPEDoctorMiggyHere's my video on Bo4r.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA

All of that localization file updating was worth it.

Language Immersion in games does help when trying to pick up new languages.
I started learning Russian almost 2 years ago and at this point I'm so used to hearing class calls like this that switching back feels weird.

[quote=BSPE][quote=DoctorMiggy]Here's my video on Bo4r.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPIBDfX5eDA
[/quote]

All of that localization file updating was worth it.[/quote]

Language Immersion in games does help when trying to pick up new languages.
I started learning Russian almost 2 years ago and at this point I'm so used to hearing class calls like this that switching back feels weird.
1487
#1487
0 Frags +

From miggys video, and from what Ive seen in my own reviews of bo4rs demos, he was either walling and is very careful of it now, or the few shots he got on barycenters video were very lucky and made him look suspicious. And at this point in time I believe its up in the air and up to UGC AC, and not us.

From miggys video, and from what Ive seen in my own reviews of bo4rs demos, he was either walling and is very careful of it now, or the few shots he got on barycenters video were very lucky and made him look suspicious. And at this point in time I believe its up in the air and up to UGC AC, and not us.
1488
#1488
-1 Frags +

yo that shot in rick james' vid @ 0:30 where he potshots (whenever jared peeks ofc) through the fence until he "luckily" hits jared is absolutely bullshit. also, that one shot in miggy's vid @ 4:50 or so where he strafes to the left and right of the rock on second until he peeks and prefires the sniper (misses lol) before seeing the sniper at all. i replayed that shit 10 times and couldnt see the sniper before bo4r fired.

edit: whoops im fucking dumb about the first (forgot about the stv bugs) but the second still stands, the chance that he would be able to see that through the grass is slim (also, the fact that you have to crop and zoom in to see it speaks volumes). also, all of his team is to his left, looking at garden. i dont think anyone could have called it, and hes moving too fast to be able to look that carefully

yo that shot in rick james' vid @ 0:30 where he potshots (whenever jared peeks ofc) through the fence until he "luckily" hits jared is absolutely bullshit. also, that one shot in miggy's vid @ 4:50 or so where he strafes to the left and right of the rock on second until he peeks and prefires the sniper (misses lol) before seeing the sniper at all. i replayed that shit 10 times and couldnt see the sniper before bo4r fired.

edit: whoops im fucking dumb about the first (forgot about the stv bugs) but the second still stands, the chance that he would be able to see that through the grass is slim (also, the fact that you have to crop and zoom in to see it speaks volumes). also, all of his team is to his left, looking at garden. i dont think anyone could have called it, and hes moving too fast to be able to look that carefully
1489
#1489
2 Frags +
retrogradeyo that shot in rick james' vid where he potshots (whenever jared peeks ofc) through the fence until he "luckily" hits jared is absolutely bullshit. also, that one shot in miggy's vid @ 4:50 or so where he strafes to the left and right of the rock on second until he peeks and prefires the sniper (misses lol) before seeing the sniper at all. i replayed that shit 10 times and couldnt see the sniper before bo4r fired. calling walls.

I went back and looked at the clip on glassworks you mentioned, the snipers head was in full view and he didnt prefire him at all, he peeked out from behind the rock and saw the snipers head, he was too slow on the draw and died.

EDIT: To reaffirm my findings,

http://i.gyazo.com/459390cfe5f0e52c8aa33cd0cd897cc3.png

you can see the snipers watch and hat from through the bush

EDIT2: Also on the lakeside clip, in STV the snipers scope is broken and is positioned about 4 inches from where he is actually looking, so in bo4rs POV he actually did see Jareds head from the fence position.

[quote=retrograde]yo that shot in rick james' vid where he potshots (whenever jared peeks ofc) through the fence until he "luckily" hits jared is absolutely bullshit. also, that one shot in miggy's vid @ 4:50 or so where he strafes to the left and right of the rock on second until he peeks and prefires the sniper (misses lol) before seeing the sniper at all. i replayed that shit 10 times and couldnt see the sniper before bo4r fired. calling walls.[/quote]

I went back and looked at the clip on glassworks you mentioned, the snipers head was in full view and he didnt prefire him at all, he peeked out from behind the rock and saw the snipers head, he was too slow on the draw and died.

EDIT: To reaffirm my findings, [img]http://i.gyazo.com/459390cfe5f0e52c8aa33cd0cd897cc3.png[/img]
you can see the snipers watch and hat from through the bush

EDIT2: Also on the lakeside clip, in STV the snipers scope is broken and is positioned about 4 inches from where he is actually looking, so in bo4rs POV he actually did see Jareds head from the fence position.
1490
#1490
4 Frags +

There's a glitch in STV where the snipers scope is actually 4 inches lower that the players actual reticle is located in his POV.

It's a glitch that's been around for months.

*edit*sniped by the guy i talked to on steam.

There's a glitch in STV where the snipers scope is actually 4 inches lower that the players actual reticle is located in his POV.

It's a glitch that's been around for months.


*edit*sniped by the guy i talked to on steam.
1491
#1491
3 Frags +
DoctorMiggyYou accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw

From this, the only things that I thought were strange were:

1:40
2:10-2:18
4:50 - 5:00 (Watch both top & bottom)
5:40-5:45
14:25-14:36
15:30 (The engie kill)
17:05 (Headshot onto Heavy)

This is all disregarding the fact that we can't hear comms however, so keep that in mind.

[quote=DoctorMiggy]You accidentally removed your link when you edited your post
In case need it again:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj-fct8ktJw[/quote]

From this, the only things that I thought were strange were:

1:40
2:10-2:18
4:50 - 5:00 (Watch both top & bottom)
5:40-5:45
14:25-14:36
15:30 (The engie kill)
17:05 (Headshot onto Heavy)

This is all disregarding the fact that we can't hear comms however, so keep that in mind.
1492
#1492
4 Frags +

When did we stop using POV demos for inspecting cheaters? It was determined ages ago that STV isn't accurate unless you're blatantly cheating.

When did we stop using POV demos for inspecting cheaters? It was determined ages ago that STV isn't accurate unless you're blatantly cheating.
1493
#1493
3 Frags +
DanceNumberWhen did we stop using POV demos for inspecting cheaters? It was determined ages ago that STV isn't accurate unless you're blatantly cheating.

But STV is better than nothing and we have no POVs

[quote=DanceNumber]When did we stop using POV demos for inspecting cheaters? It was determined ages ago that STV isn't accurate unless you're blatantly cheating.[/quote]

But STV is better than nothing and we have no POVs
1494
#1494
3 Frags +

10:46 AM - The Dream: so he is going to get the STV of the match and watch it looking for hacks, and give it to the admins
10:46 AM - The Dream: when the admins already have his POV, and a recording of him physically playing with mouse/monitor cam

Apparently the admins already have his POV? I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|

10:46 AM - The Dream: so he is going to get the STV of the match and watch it looking for hacks, and give it to the admins
10:46 AM - The Dream: when the admins already have his POV, and a recording of him physically playing with mouse/monitor cam

Apparently the admins already have his POV? I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|
1495
#1495
3 Frags +

I spoke with VIPA on Steam.
He tells me that the POVs from last night are (or have, wording wasn't 100% clear) being sent to the Admins.
Vipa was also cooperative enough to send me the files upon request. I didn't even have to push for it...

jared I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|

He didn't Stream but he did record the whole thing through OBS and he's turning that over to admins.

I spoke with VIPA on Steam.
He tells me that the POVs from last night are (or have, wording wasn't 100% clear) being sent to the Admins.
Vipa was also cooperative enough to send me the files upon request. I didn't even have to push for it...

[quote=jared] I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|[/quote]

He didn't Stream but he did record the whole thing through OBS and he's turning that over to admins.
1496
#1496
3 Frags +
jaredApparently the admins already have his POV? I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|

I did not stream this match because last time I did it lagged me the fuck out. I did however record the entire match (and part of the pregame) with my webcam. Because I'm simply tired of hearing this shit, here is the download link to both the webcam and my personal povs (which the admins should already have possession of): https:

Edit: ninjad by vipa and miggy. I'm keeping this post up anyway; do whatever you'd like with the files.
Double edit: This is probably my last post on these forums, so l8r

[quote=jared]Apparently the admins already have his POV? I'm being told he streams all his matches by vipa, but everyone else is telling me he didn't stream the match. :|[/quote]
I did not stream this match because last time I did it lagged me the fuck out. I did however record the entire match (and part of the pregame) with my webcam. Because I'm simply tired of hearing this shit, here is the download link to both the webcam and my personal povs (which the admins should already have possession of): https:

Edit: ninjad by vipa and miggy. I'm keeping this post up anyway; do whatever you'd like with the files.
Double edit: This is probably my last post on these forums, so l8r
1497
#1497
-2 Frags +
Jarrett000SheoiFY_so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?Worked for rondego
snip

I was just talking shit.

[quote=Jarrett000][quote=Sheo][quote=iFY_]so if we can convnice knd players that bo4r hacks will he get banned then?[/quote]
Worked for rondego[/quote]

snip[/quote]
I was just talking shit.
1498
#1498
3 Frags +

http://www.twitch.tv/officialmaxbox

The ayy lmaobox youtuber guy now has an official twitch stream. Oh boy.

http://www.twitch.tv/officialmaxbox

The ayy lmaobox youtuber guy now has an official twitch stream. Oh boy.
1499
#1499
2 Frags +

Don't have an opinion either way on bo4r, but in a lot of these clips his cursor is pretty clearly on the wall because it lets him see or react to multiple entrances.

Edit: there are a couple suspicious clips, but so many of them are such bad examples of walling that it makes it hard for me to think he walls at all.

Don't have an opinion either way on bo4r, but in a lot of these clips his cursor is pretty clearly on the wall because it lets him see or react to multiple entrances.

Edit: there are a couple suspicious clips, but so many of them are such bad examples of walling that it makes it hard for me to think he walls at all.
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#1500
1 Frags +

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