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1531
#1531
2 Frags +

i think this kid is using the new, gimped silent aimbot based on the weird-ass inhuman flicks he's doing on sniper (in the course of 3 frames, snaps to the target and back to original position)

Edit for clarity: I'm referring to this cheater

domelnatorAnother possible center hacker...

Was playing pyro on viaduct while I was playing spy, always knew where I was and would flare me while invisible randomly. I could be completely wrong but I just wanted to get a second opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2XXvNgm5IU&feature=youtu.be

Stats and STV from that match: http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/394179
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198204481399 (100 hours and edgy names)

I have decided that the clip with me on concrete is a fluke because my pyro was kinda behind me, and the clip on bats I could have been called. The fact that he doesn't really seem to know what he is doing makes it more fishy in my mind.

theres another stv of him playing sniper in another center haven't watched it yet but it could give this guy away

http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561198087011715-96874-6-20150725.zip
i think this kid is using the new, gimped silent aimbot based on the weird-ass inhuman flicks he's doing on sniper (in the course of 3 frames, snaps to the target and back to original position)

Edit for clarity: I'm referring to this cheater
[quote=domelnator]Another possible center hacker...

Was playing pyro on viaduct while I was playing spy, always knew where I was and would flare me while invisible randomly. I could be completely wrong but I just wanted to get a second opinion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2XXvNgm5IU&feature=youtu.be

Stats and STV from that match: http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/394179
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198204481399 (100 hours and edgy names)

I have decided that the clip with me on concrete is a fluke because my pyro was kinda behind me, and the clip on bats I could have been called. The fact that he doesn't really seem to know what he is doing makes it more fishy in my mind.

theres another stv of him playing sniper in another center haven't watched it yet but it could give this guy away

http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561198087011715-96874-6-20150725.zip[/quote]
1532
#1532
10 Frags +
smoboi think this kid is using the new, gimped silent aimbot based on the weird-ass inhuman flicks he's doing on sniper (in the course of 3 frames, snaps to the target and back to original position)

Yea that is how silent aim works now. I had someone demonstrate it yesterday in a pub. Snaps onto target for one frame then back to original aiming position. Quite easy to spot unless their aim very close to begin with. But with a large fov it looks ridiculously jerky. I'll try to upload a video later so people can see what it looks like.

Edit: Here is the video as promised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlWPNdGQ-Q&feature=youtu.be

Edit 2: Possibly rage heavy was patched by some of the hack makers? From a post on reddit "Just ran into a heavy on a Valve server who was murdering everyone. Apparently the bot makers have their own patch and things are back to "normal." This heavy.....was murdering everyone and telling everyone how/why so I guess he/she didnt care."

[quote=smobo]i think this kid is using the new, gimped silent aimbot based on the weird-ass inhuman flicks he's doing on sniper (in the course of 3 frames, snaps to the target and back to original position)[/quote]

Yea that is how silent aim works now. I had someone demonstrate it yesterday in a pub. Snaps onto target for one frame then back to original aiming position. Quite easy to spot unless their aim very close to begin with. But with a large fov it looks ridiculously jerky. I'll try to upload a video later so people can see what it looks like.

Edit: Here is the video as promised: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mlWPNdGQ-Q&feature=youtu.be

Edit 2: Possibly rage heavy was patched by some of the hack makers? From a post on reddit [i]"Just ran into a heavy on a Valve server who was murdering everyone. Apparently the bot makers have their own patch and things are back to "normal." This heavy.....was murdering everyone and telling everyone how/why so I guess he/she didnt care."[/i]
1533
#1533
0 Frags +

Thanks, that basically confirms that the guy I saw earlier was using this new silent aim with a fairly small FOV.

Thanks, that basically confirms that the guy I saw earlier was using this new silent aim with a fairly small FOV.
1534
#1534
-13 Frags +

208.78.166.165:27017

4 hackers in this valve 2 fort server ( Lol ) one is my irl friend that has been posted. someone join and get their steam ids please.

EDIT: they're now in a sejuin server

208.78.166.165:27017

4 hackers in this valve 2 fort server ( Lol ) one is my irl friend that has been posted. someone join and get their steam ids please.

EDIT: they're now in a sejuin server
1535
#1535
5 Frags +
phobia208.78.166.165:27017

4 hackers in this valve 2 fort server ( Lol ) one is my irl friend that has been posted. someone join and get their steam ids please.

EDIT: they're now in a sejuin server

join yourself and do status?

I connected and the only hacker I saw was http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198135626130

[quote=phobia]208.78.166.165:27017

4 hackers in this valve 2 fort server ( Lol ) one is my irl friend that has been posted. someone join and get their steam ids please.

EDIT: they're now in a sejuin server[/quote]

join yourself and do status?

I connected and the only hacker I saw was http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198135626130
1536
#1536
3 Frags +

hacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715

He was at the least walling probly had the whole LMAO setup already has 1 vac on record.

hacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715

He was at the least walling probly had the whole LMAO setup already has 1 vac on record.
1537
#1537
3 Frags +
domelnatortheres another stv of him playing sniper in another center haven't watched it yet but it could give this guy away

http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561198087011715-96874-6-20150725.zip

EDIT: Those other flares could have hit me because of the same projectile aimbot or whatever that is in the first clip

that stv shows that he has literally no gamesense and bad mouse movement, yet he hits rly weird shots. calling it.

[quote=domelnator]theres another stv of him playing sniper in another center haven't watched it yet but it could give this guy away

http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561198087011715-96874-6-20150725.zip

EDIT: Those other flares could have hit me because of the same projectile aimbot or whatever that is in the first clip[/quote]

that stv shows that he has literally no gamesense and bad mouse movement, yet he hits rly weird shots. calling it.
1538
#1538
6 Frags +

probably just a pub hacker, but might as well post it in case he starts playing centers. (And entertainment value because who doesn't want to see powah sniping against a hacker)
Couldn't find anything on logs.tf
South American player.

# 134 "Kunkka" [U:1:90390523]
http://steamcommunity.com/id/DragmireKunkkaAdmiral-/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050656251

Was hacking vs Powah in MGE. Hitscan aimbot + projectile aimbot
Some guy in his stream thought he recognized him. (Zet0s joined after most of the MGE so he didn't see the majority of it which is why he's not sure himself if he's hacking)
Zet0s: He is a old TF2 player... he used to play sniper, then later he said he got sick of playing and used to use rageheavy hacking on pubs, but not sure he's hacking as sniper... he was pretty good, actually

http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462
2:00 demoman. powah doesn't realize it yet. Just AD strafing is enough to dodge the pipes.
12:30 soldier. Here it becomes really obvious: doesn't know how to rocket jump, perfect shotgun, amazing directs. Powah starts to catch on here as well
14:50 shoots multiple rockets in different directions without moving his model. If you weren't convinced yet.
17:50 scout. Hattrick (Knuckles) joins to make a demo. I'll ask him to post it later if needed. Hacker misses some shots at first. Powah thinks it might be because the aimbot is still configured for projectiles
19:40 sniper. one hacker vs another hacker Keepo. Aimbot wasn't configured right at first and goes for bodyshots most of the time. All powah has to do is hide his chest behind the train and he can't even get hit. Hacker catches on and adjusts aimbot accordingly
24:20 for everyone's entertainment: hacker showdown. closest game. Not going to spoil the end score
26:50 more demoman. You get the deal by now. If you're feeling down, look at this guy's sticky jumps and it'll cheer you up

probably just a pub hacker, but might as well post it in case he starts playing centers. (And entertainment value because who doesn't want to see powah sniping against a hacker)
Couldn't find anything on logs.tf
South American player.

# 134 "Kunkka" [U:1:90390523]
http://steamcommunity.com/id/DragmireKunkkaAdmiral-/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050656251

Was hacking vs Powah in MGE. Hitscan aimbot + projectile aimbot
Some guy in his stream thought he recognized him. (Zet0s joined after most of the MGE so he didn't see the majority of it which is why he's not sure himself if he's hacking)
Zet0s: He is a old TF2 player... he used to play sniper, then later he said he got sick of playing and used to use rageheavy hacking on pubs, but not sure he's hacking as sniper... he was pretty good, actually

http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462
2:00 demoman. powah doesn't realize it yet. Just AD strafing is enough to dodge the pipes.
12:30 soldier. Here it becomes really obvious: doesn't know how to rocket jump, perfect shotgun, amazing directs. Powah starts to catch on here as well
14:50 shoots multiple rockets in different directions without moving his model. If you weren't convinced yet.
17:50 scout. Hattrick (Knuckles) joins to make a demo. I'll ask him to post it later if needed. Hacker misses some shots at first. Powah thinks it might be because the aimbot is still configured for projectiles
19:40 sniper. one hacker vs another hacker Keepo. Aimbot wasn't configured right at first and goes for bodyshots most of the time. All powah has to do is hide his chest behind the train and he can't even get hit. Hacker catches on and adjusts aimbot accordingly
24:20 for everyone's entertainment: hacker showdown. closest game. Not going to spoil the end score
26:50 more demoman. You get the deal by now. If you're feeling down, look at this guy's sticky jumps and it'll cheer you up
1539
#1539
0 Frags +
1tobprobably just a pub hacker, but might as well post it in case he starts playing centers.
Couldn't find anything on logs.tf
Brazilian player.

# 134 "Kunkka" [U:1:90390523]
http://steamcommunity.com/id/DragmireKunkkaAdmiral-/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050656251

Was hacking vs Powah in MGE. Hitscan aimbot + projectile aimbot
Some guy in his stream thought he recognized him. (Zet0s joined after most of the MGE so he didn't see the majority of it which is why he's not sure himself)
Zet0s: He is a old TF2 player... he used to play sniper, then later he said he got sick of playing and used to use rageheavy hacking on pubs, but not sure he's hacking as sniper... he was pretty good, actually

http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462
2:00 demoman. powah doesn't realize it yet. Just AD strafing is enough to dodge the pipes
12:30 soldier. Here it becomes really obvious: doesn't know how to rocket jump, perfect shotgun, amazing directs. Powah starts to catch on here as well
14:50 shoots multiple rockets in different directions without moving his model. If you weren't convinced yet.
17:50 scout. Hattrick (Knuckles) joins to make a demo. I'll ask him to post it later if needed. Hacker misses some shots at first. Powah thinks it might be because the aimbot is still configured for projectiles
19:40 sniper. one hacker vs another hacker Keepo. Aimbot wasn't configured right at first and goes for bodyshots most of the time. All powah has to do is hide his chest behind the train and he can't even get hit. Hacker catches on and adjust aimbot accordingly
24:20 for everyone's entertainment: hacker showdown. closest game. Not going to spoil the end score
26:50 more demoman. You get the deal by now

http://www.mediafire.com/download/djuo4bd2bvad4a8/powahscheater.dem

powah had me join and record a demo of this guy. He looks really silly when he goes demo later on in my demo

[quote=1tob]probably just a pub hacker, but might as well post it in case he starts playing centers.
Couldn't find anything on logs.tf
Brazilian player.

# 134 "Kunkka" [U:1:90390523]
http://steamcommunity.com/id/DragmireKunkkaAdmiral-/
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198050656251

Was hacking vs Powah in MGE. Hitscan aimbot + projectile aimbot
Some guy in his stream thought he recognized him. (Zet0s joined after most of the MGE so he didn't see the majority of it which is why he's not sure himself)
Zet0s: He is a old TF2 player... he used to play sniper, then later he said he got sick of playing and used to use rageheavy hacking on pubs, but not sure he's hacking as sniper... he was pretty good, actually

http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462
2:00 demoman. powah doesn't realize it yet. Just AD strafing is enough to dodge the pipes
12:30 soldier. Here it becomes really obvious: doesn't know how to rocket jump, perfect shotgun, amazing directs. Powah starts to catch on here as well
14:50 shoots multiple rockets in different directions without moving his model. If you weren't convinced yet.
17:50 scout. Hattrick (Knuckles) joins to make a demo. I'll ask him to post it later if needed. Hacker misses some shots at first. Powah thinks it might be because the aimbot is still configured for projectiles
19:40 sniper. one hacker vs another hacker Keepo. Aimbot wasn't configured right at first and goes for bodyshots most of the time. All powah has to do is hide his chest behind the train and he can't even get hit. Hacker catches on and adjust aimbot accordingly
24:20 for everyone's entertainment: hacker showdown. closest game. Not going to spoil the end score
26:50 more demoman. You get the deal by now[/quote]

http://www.mediafire.com/download/djuo4bd2bvad4a8/powahscheater.dem

powah had me join and record a demo of this guy. He looks really silly when he goes demo later on in my demo
1540
#1540
5 Frags +

lol that guy... dead giveaway even when he's playing soldier: http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462?t=14m48s

Clip starts about 5-10 seconds after that linked time stamp. Notice how Kunkka is standing still and facing straight yet some of his rockets are leaving his launcher at a 45 degree angle without him moving!

lol that guy... dead giveaway even when he's playing soldier: http://www.twitch.tv/powah/b/680392462?t=14m48s

Clip starts about 5-10 seconds after that linked time stamp. Notice how Kunkka is standing still and facing straight yet some of his rockets are leaving his launcher at a 45 degree angle without him moving!
1541
#1541
1 Frags +
PinKushinhacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715

He was at the least walling probly had the whole LMAO setup already has 1 vac on record.

Ah, a Florida player.
Welp, any remote chance he may have in going to FLan is now gone.

[quote=PinKushin]hacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715

He was at the least walling probly had the whole LMAO setup already has 1 vac on record.[/quote]

Ah, a Florida player.
Welp, any remote chance he may have in going to FLan is now gone.
1542
#1542
-2 Frags +
PinKushinhacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715DoctorMiggyAh, a Florida player.
Welp, any remote chance he may have in going to FLan is now gone.

Very much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.

[quote=PinKushin]hacker in a valve server not major will probly have his whole account deleted soon but just in case someone sees him in comp heres the info.

"Matt" [U:1:67963987]
http://steamrep.com/index.php?id=76561198028229715
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028229715
[quote=DoctorMiggy]
Ah, a Florida player.
Welp, any remote chance he may have in going to FLan is now gone.[/quote] [/quote]

Very much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.
1543
#1543
0 Frags +
PinKushinVery much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.

you... do realise that DDoS means it's from multiple sources, right?

[quote=PinKushin]
Very much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.[/quote]

you... do realise that DDoS means it's from multiple sources, right?
1544
#1544
0 Frags +
kKaltUuPinKushinVery much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.
you... do realise that DDoS means it's from multiple sources, right?

you... do realise that botnets exist, right?

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=PinKushin]
Very much doubt he has any idea about flan (though if he does end up there someone knock him out for me). Though he went through a lot to find my name but was to much of a pussy to try to ddos me. Guess he knew I was just trying to grab his IP and he wouldn't have the connection to even cause my ping to jump.[/quote]

you... do realise that DDoS means it's from multiple sources, right?[/quote]

you... do realise that botnets exist, right?
1545
#1545
-4 Frags +

Stop telling kids about DDos, they can figure it out with a 2 minute youtube video and nobody wants more of that shit happening. Its just another option for angry gamers to ruin the fun for everyone

Stop telling kids about DDos, they can figure it out with a 2 minute youtube video and nobody wants more of that shit happening. Its just another option for angry gamers to ruin the fun for everyone
1546
#1546
-9 Frags +

Yes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.

Yes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.
1547
#1547
12 Frags +
PinKushinYes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.

By definition if you are only using one machine then you are not executing a distributed denial of service attack

[quote=PinKushin]Yes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.[/quote]

By definition if you are only using one machine then you are not executing a [b]distributed[/b] denial of service attack
1548
#1548
8 Frags +
PinKushinYes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.

Alright whoever ruined open grand finals all those times you heard this man issue you a challenge

[quote=PinKushin]Yes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.[/quote]

Alright whoever ruined open grand finals all those times you heard this man issue you a challenge
1549
#1549
0 Frags +
Knuckles_PinKushinYes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.
Alright whoever ruined open grand finals all those times you heard this man issue you a challenge

paging bunnymonster

[quote=Knuckles_][quote=PinKushin]Yes I know botnets exist and yes I know a good DDOS uses a botnet but you CAN run a DDOS from a single connection. Wouldn't matter either way though I haven't run up against anyone yet that can take my connection down and if he would of tried he'd of been down for a week at the least.[/quote]

Alright whoever ruined open grand finals all those times you heard this man issue you a challenge[/quote]

paging bunnymonster
1550
#1550
6 Frags +

this thread turned shitty real quick

this thread turned shitty real quick
1551
#1551
-3 Frags +

Totally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380

Totally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380
1552
#1552
3 Frags +
serenitysereneTotally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380

I would have thought that people in this thread have learned that we need a pov, otherwise we just cant call them out on logs alone. We'll will have another Yuri situation if you do that.

[quote=serenityserene]Totally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380[/quote]

I would have thought that people in this thread have learned that we need a pov, otherwise we just cant call them out on logs alone. We'll will have another Yuri situation if you do that.
1553
#1553
-13 Frags +
89zombiezserenitysereneTotally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380
I would have thought that people in this thread have learned that we need a pov, otherwise we just cant call them out on logs alone. Well will have another Yuri situation if you do that.

Right with 59% accuracy doing better than top Platinum Snipers? Did he even record this one???

[quote=89zombiez][quote=serenityserene]Totally DOESNT hack http://logs.tf/947213?highlight=76561197974871380[/quote]

I would have thought that people in this thread have learned that we need a pov, otherwise we just cant call them out on logs alone. Well will have another Yuri situation if you do that.[/quote]

Right with 59% accuracy doing better than top Platinum Snipers? Did he even record this one???
1554
#1554
3 Frags +

i'm watching the stv and podgy peaked from the same spot at LEAST 5 or 6 times after dying to boar each time. nobody ever pressured boar either (in the first few minutes of the first half anyway) so it's no wonder he got 900 dpm. can't watch the rest of it because i'm busy but if anyone else is willing to do it then go for it.

serenitysereneRight with 59% accuracy doing better than top Platinum Snipers? Did he even record this one???

http://puu.sh/jfxB1/48541a3da8.png

i'm watching the stv and podgy peaked from the same spot at LEAST 5 or 6 times after dying to boar each time. nobody ever pressured boar either (in the first few minutes of the first half anyway) so it's no wonder he got 900 dpm. can't watch the rest of it because i'm busy but if anyone else is willing to do it then go for it.

[quote=serenityserene]
Right with 59% accuracy doing better than top Platinum Snipers? Did he even record this one???[/quote]

[img]http://puu.sh/jfxB1/48541a3da8.png[/img]
1555
#1555
1 Frags +

If you are going to bring suspicion about bo4r for that log than you might as well for timeless, because he went fucking HAM. http://logs.tf/947250?highlight=76561198047912210

If you are going to bring suspicion about bo4r for that log than you might as well for timeless, because he went fucking HAM. http://logs.tf/947250?highlight=76561198047912210
1556
#1556
3 Frags +

That dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.

That dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.
1557
#1557
14 Frags +
smoboThat dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.

i'm like 90% sure he was just pointing out the number 69

[quote=smobo]That dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.[/quote]

i'm like 90% sure he was just pointing out the number 69
1558
#1558
-2 Frags +

http://logs.tf/946232?highlight=76561198085994924

smoboThat dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.

i got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.

http://logs.tf/946232?highlight=76561198085994924
[quote=smobo]That dt/m stat proves nothing, cuz a hacking sniper would be hard as hell to put significant damage on. Just saying.[/quote]
i got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.
1559
#1559
0 Frags +
retrogradei got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.

Putting out crazy damage leads to taking less damage when you're a sniper, just as taking less damage allows you to put out more damage. So it could be that he played smart and his team protected him, or it could be that he played so well nobody could touch him. The dt/m stat is pretty much irrelevant.

[quote=retrograde]i got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.[/quote]
Putting out crazy damage [b]leads to[/b] taking less damage when you're a sniper, just as taking less damage allows you to put out more damage. So it could be that he played smart and his team protected him, or it could be that he played so well nobody could touch him. The dt/m stat is pretty much irrelevant.
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smoboretrogradei got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.Putting out crazy damage leads to taking less damage when you're a sniper, just as taking less damage allows you to put out more damage. So it could be that he played smart and his team protected him, or it could be that he played so well nobody could touch him. The dt/m stat is pretty much irrelevant.

i was agreeing with you by pulling a random log that had similar stats

[quote=smobo][quote=retrograde]i got a similar dtm in this log and also went pretty ham. logs prove almost nothing.[/quote]
Putting out crazy damage [b]leads to[/b] taking less damage when you're a sniper, just as taking less damage allows you to put out more damage. So it could be that he played smart and his team protected him, or it could be that he played so well nobody could touch him. The dt/m stat is pretty much irrelevant.[/quote]
i was agreeing with you by pulling a random log that had similar stats
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