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Cheater/Hacker thread
1411
#1411
18 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot


(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league
1412
#1412
4 Frags +
rickjameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league

I forgot to add I did email this to the UGC admins

[quote=rickjames]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot


(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league[/quote]
I forgot to add I did email this to the UGC admins
1413
#1413
11 Frags +

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1414
#1414
-5 Frags +
bizlorickjamesrickjameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league
I forgot to add I did email this to the UGC admins

lol

this guy snaps more than a sassy teenage girl. calling hacks on this.

bo4r is naturally good at sniper because its really all he fucking plays, but we are talking about his possibility of walling.

[quote=bizlo][quote=rickjames][quote=rickjames]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_g91oN5F3IM

(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/390355)
21k Snaps to sniper out of FOV
39k walls sniper on stairs
43k Finds sniper hidden again then tracks solly through sign+ Headshot
48k walks up cliff and tracks medic through sign+ Headshot


(http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/389003)
12500 Snaps to sniper out of FOV walls medic
21500 Tracks scout behind wall+ Headshot
26500 Walls demo and medic then trigger bots
33100 Walls sniper in spawn
This dirty hacker bo4r I hope this is more than enough to have him banned from the league[/quote]
I forgot to add I did email this to the UGC admins[/quote]

lol

this guy snaps more than a sassy teenage girl. calling hacks on this.[/quote]

bo4r is naturally good at sniper because its really all he fucking plays, but we are talking about his possibility of walling.
1415
#1415
3 Frags +

I'm honestly not 100% sold on your videos mostly because you keep showing 2 or 3 clips from an ENTIRE half match demo. That means 60 seconds or less worth of footage in an stv that may be as long as 30 minutes.
Meaning, if he is cheating he is not doing it often...

It's roughly 2am here so I won't get to it until after I get out of work later today.
Expect to see a video up sometime tonight or tomorrow morning. I WILL upload a video regardless if I find any proof of cheating or not just to put this shit to rest.

I'm honestly not 100% sold on your videos mostly because you keep showing 2 or 3 clips from an ENTIRE half match demo. That means 60 seconds or less worth of footage in an stv that may be as long as 30 minutes.
Meaning, if he is cheating he is not doing it often...

It's roughly 2am here so I won't get to it until after I get out of work later today.
Expect to see a video up sometime tonight or tomorrow morning. I WILL upload a video regardless if I find any proof of cheating or not just to put this shit to rest.
1416
#1416
9 Frags +
DoctorMiggyI'm honestly not 100% sold on your videos mostly because you keep showing 2 or 3 clips from an ENTIRE half match demo. That means 60 seconds or less worth of footage in an stv that may be as long as 30 minutes.
Meaning, if he is cheating he is not doing it often...

It's roughly 2am here so I won't get to it until after I get out of work later today.
Expect to see a video up sometime tonight or tomorrow morning. I WILL upload a video regardless if I find any proof of cheating or not just to put this shit to rest.

Giving up is way harder than trying to me. I wont stop looking in to this I don't need your approval. Thanks for the feedback though.

[quote=DoctorMiggy]I'm honestly not 100% sold on your videos mostly because you keep showing 2 or 3 clips from an ENTIRE half match demo. That means 60 seconds or less worth of footage in an stv that may be as long as 30 minutes.
Meaning, if he is cheating he is not doing it often...

It's roughly 2am here so I won't get to it until after I get out of work later today.
Expect to see a video up sometime tonight or tomorrow morning. I WILL upload a video regardless if I find any proof of cheating or not just to put this shit to rest.[/quote]
Giving up is way harder than trying to me. I wont stop looking in to this I don't need your approval. Thanks for the feedback though.
1417
#1417
20 Frags +
DoctorMiggy stuff

i mean i was sold once i saw him flick to a sniper that was behind a wall and try to headshot him. no he did not miss another player that was in front of the wall so it could have been innocent. legitimately tried to wallbang someone he hadn't seen.

[quote=DoctorMiggy] stuff[/quote]

i mean i was sold once i saw him flick to a sniper that was behind a wall and try to headshot him. no he did not miss another player that was in front of the wall so it could have been innocent. legitimately tried to wallbang someone he hadn't seen.
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#1418
19 Frags +

why would 1 minute of sketchy play be nullified by 29 minutes of non-sketchy play?
it's not very hard to toggle cheats on and off or to try to make it look like you're legit. it's a sport that comes with cheating.
i think what rickjames is doing is exactly right; accumulate sketchy moments, and go over them.

if boar is cheating, then he is obviously trying to not make it blatant.
personally.. i think he cheats.

at any rate, +1 for looking into it rickjames

why would 1 minute of sketchy play be nullified by 29 minutes of non-sketchy play?
it's not very hard to toggle cheats on and off or to try to make it look like you're legit. it's a sport that comes with cheating.
i think what rickjames is doing is exactly right; accumulate sketchy moments, and go over them.

if boar is cheating, then he is obviously trying to not make it blatant.
personally.. i think he cheats.

at any rate, +1 for looking into it rickjames
1419
#1419
8 Frags +

I feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look like their hacking when they don't have to. I think he just needs to go into a match using spin bot and no spread as heavy. That probably still won't be enough though.

I feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look like their hacking when they don't have to. I think he just needs to go into a match using spin bot and no spread as heavy. That probably still won't be enough though.
1420
#1420
9 Frags +

How is this guy not banned yet? Is it that easy to get away with cheats? Does Rick James need to make a 2 hour movie of clips of bo4r using cheats?

I agree. It seems as if this guy needs to be super fucking blatant before anything happens.

How is this guy not banned yet? Is it that easy to get away with cheats? Does Rick James need to make a 2 hour movie of clips of bo4r using cheats?

I agree. It seems as if this guy needs to be super fucking blatant before anything happens.
1421
#1421
7 Frags +

ugc admins are fucking retards

ugc admins are fucking retards
1422
#1422
-21 Frags +

rickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.

rickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.
1423
#1423
9 Frags +
smoborickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.phobiaugc admins are fucking retards
[quote=smobo]rickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.[/quote]
[quote=phobia]ugc admins are fucking retards[/quote]
1424
#1424
9 Frags +

pack it up boys, UGC Smobo says he isn't cheating

pack it up boys, UGC Smobo says he isn't cheating
1425
#1425
9 Frags +
smoborickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.

do you actually have a brain?

[quote=smobo]rickjames your last video was completely stupid. watch those demos with wireframes off. Zero moments of wall hacking.[/quote]

do you actually have a brain?
1426
#1426
2 Frags +

This blatant collusion, calling sp00ky right now

This blatant collusion, calling sp00ky right now
1427
#1427
2 Frags +

these are ugc approved walls boys

https://youtu.be/_g91oN5F3IM?t=47 wtf was that flick thing

these are ugc approved walls boys

https://youtu.be/_g91oN5F3IM?t=47 wtf was that flick thing
1428
#1428
17 Frags +
rickjamesI feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look

The problem behind all of this is, even if he's fishy you still have to provide proof he's cheating. You can't just go around and say I have a feeling he cheats, let's ban him!. It just doesn't work like that.

Do keep an open stance on the player and share your findings "hey guys, what do you think of this segment?".
Don't try to shove your videos on the forums and yell that you've got THE proof someone is cheating.
You've done that the last few times and each time it's a horrible video that doesn't prove the guy is making impossible shots.

(STV) Demo reviews are the worst form of AC work, and posting weak evidence like this is actually detrimental to what people in this thread are trying to achieve. I appreciate your enthusiasm but please just take it slow. If someone is cheating we'll get there eventually. Just keep on building a case and the evidence will speak for itself.

That said, I've watched a few of his matches and I do think he should be kept under investigation. Haven't seen anything impossible but a few moments still feel a bit too good to be true. I hope he's just really good.

[quote=rickjames]I feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look[/quote]

The problem behind all of this is, even if he's fishy you still have to provide [b]proof[/b] he's cheating. You can't just go around and say [i]I have a feeling he cheats, let's ban him![/i]. It just doesn't work like that.

Do keep an open stance on the player and share your findings "[i]hey guys, what do you think of this segment?[/i]".
Don't try to shove your videos on the forums and yell that you've got THE proof someone is cheating.
You've done that the last few times and each time it's a horrible video that doesn't prove the guy is making impossible shots.

(STV) Demo reviews are the worst form of AC work, and posting weak evidence like this is actually detrimental to what people in this thread are trying to achieve. I appreciate your enthusiasm but please just take it slow. If someone is cheating we'll get there eventually. Just keep on building a case and the evidence will speak for itself.

That said, I've watched a few of his matches and I do think he should be kept under investigation. Haven't seen anything impossible but a few moments still feel a bit too good to be true. I hope he's just really good.
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#1429
2 Frags +
kKaltUurickjamesI feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look
The problem behind all of this is, even if he's fishy you still have to provide proof he's cheating. You can't just go around and say I have a feeling he cheats, let's ban him!. It just doesn't work like that.

Do keep an open stance on the player and share your findings "hey guys, what do you think of this segment?".
Don't try to shove your videos on the forums and yell that you've got THE proof someone is cheating.
You've done that the last few times and each time it's a horrible video that doesn't prove the guy is making impossible shots.

(STV) Demo reviews are the worst form of AC work, and posting weak evidence like this is actually detrimental to what people in this thread are trying to achieve. I appreciate your enthusiasm but please just take it slow. If someone is cheating we'll get there eventually. Just keep on building a case and the evidence will speak for itself.

Could not have said it better myself.
My post would have been full of rude comments about how folks are good advice because of their emotions tied to the issue (read: rage)

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=rickjames]I feel like he is one guy who figure out how to somewhat hide his hacks and is allowed to get away with it. I mean why would someone try to look[/quote]

The problem behind all of this is, even if he's fishy you still have to provide [b]proof[/b] he's cheating. You can't just go around and say [i]I have a feeling he cheats, let's ban him![/i]. It just doesn't work like that.

Do keep an open stance on the player and share your findings "[i]hey guys, what do you think of this segment?[/i]".
Don't try to shove your videos on the forums and yell that you've got THE proof someone is cheating.
You've done that the last few times and each time it's a horrible video that doesn't prove the guy is making impossible shots.

(STV) Demo reviews are the worst form of AC work, and posting weak evidence like this is actually detrimental to what people in this thread are trying to achieve. I appreciate your enthusiasm but please just take it slow. If someone is cheating we'll get there eventually. Just keep on building a case and the evidence will speak for itself.
[/quote]

Could not have said it better myself.
My post would have been full of rude comments about how folks are good advice because of their emotions tied to the issue (read: rage)
1430
#1430
-7 Frags +

A sniper always listens to callouts and this could have easily been a team callout, such as "sniper, concrete" "sniper, cliff". That would warrant his prescoping the peaking sniper, but we can't know w/o comms. IMO there is no hacking in this video, maybe some lucky shots on the medic but nothing out of the ordinary for a high level sniper

A sniper always listens to callouts and this could have easily been a team callout, such as "sniper, concrete" "sniper, cliff". That would warrant his prescoping the peaking sniper, but we can't know w/o comms. IMO there is no hacking in this video, maybe some lucky shots on the medic but nothing out of the ordinary for a high level sniper
1431
#1431
7 Frags +

"high level sniper"

"high level sniper"
1432
#1432
0 Frags +

lmao

lmao
1433
#1433
-11 Frags +

Yeah cause his teammates would've know the enemy sniper was crouching under stairs when noone was there lol. Ignorant fuck

Yeah cause his teammates would've know the enemy sniper was crouching under stairs when noone was there lol. Ignorant fuck
1434
#1434
-9 Frags +

well

phobiaYeah cause his teammates would've know the enemy sniper was crouching under stairs when noone was there lol. Ignorant fuck

Well looky over here, we got the self righteous assumption master here, he feels he is right and that's all that matters. Maybe he was spotted there earlier, maybe a spy calls him out, maybe somebody called focus concrete, either way you don't know shit and act out like you live in a soap opera.

well [quote=phobia]Yeah cause his teammates would've know the enemy sniper was crouching under stairs when noone was there lol. Ignorant fuck[/quote]
Well looky over here, we got the self righteous assumption master here, he feels he is right and that's all that matters. Maybe he was spotted there earlier, maybe a spy calls him out, maybe somebody called focus concrete, either way you don't know shit and act out like you live in a soap opera.
1435
#1435
3 Frags +

it seems definitely fishy and i think that bo4r is probably walling (barycenters video imo being the most convincing), but im not sure if youtube videos of stv reviews are enough evidence to ban

it seems definitely fishy and i think that bo4r is probably walling (barycenters video imo being the most convincing), but im not sure if youtube videos of stv reviews are enough evidence to ban
1436
#1436
2 Frags +

I made a video because it seems to work for james the rick hebs problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9LJmbhOxr4

tl;dr if you think that demo proves wallhacking, you're absolutely wrong

smvnim not sure if youtube videos of stv reviews are enough evidence to ban

you'd think that, but then you watch mike play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcfPyx8H7Q

I made a video because it seems to work for james the rick hebs problem.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9LJmbhOxr4[/youtube]

tl;dr if you think that demo proves wallhacking, you're absolutely wrong

[quote=smvn]im not sure if youtube videos of stv reviews are enough evidence to ban[/quote]
you'd think that, but then you watch mike play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EcfPyx8H7Q
1437
#1437
-7 Frags +

UGC Snowblindfrog: Hey
cynex: my team is going against ssvw tonight as were 2 of the top 3 teams but as you know there sniper is a known hacker
cynex: http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/23773/cheater-hacker-thread/?page=46
cynex: and has been caught in video and even told on by there old medic I think
cynex: Just wondering why he isn't banned
cynex: there's 100% evidence and playing against a hacker isn't fun
cynex: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page_matches.cfm?clan_id=10463
UGC Snowblindfrog: I'll have to ask our AC team. Not sure if we've ever reviewed him or not
cynex: kk
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Online.
cynex: so was he reviewed?
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Away.

UGC Snowblindfrog: Hey
cynex: my team is going against ssvw tonight as were 2 of the top 3 teams but as you know there sniper is a known hacker
cynex: http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/23773/cheater-hacker-thread/?page=46
cynex: and has been caught in video and even told on by there old medic I think
cynex: Just wondering why he isn't banned
cynex: there's 100% evidence and playing against a hacker isn't fun
cynex: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page_matches.cfm?clan_id=10463
UGC Snowblindfrog: I'll have to ask our AC team. Not sure if we've ever reviewed him or not
cynex: kk
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Online.
cynex: so was he reviewed?
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Away.
1438
#1438
5 Frags +
ApathyTFUGC Snowblindfrog: Hey
cynex: my team is going against ssvw tonight as were 2 of the top 3 teams but as you know there sniper is a known hacker
cynex: http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/23773/cheater-hacker-thread/?page=46
cynex: and has been caught in video and even told on by there old medic I think
cynex: Just wondering why he isn't banned
cynex: there's 100% evidence and playing against a hacker isn't fun
cynex: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page_matches.cfm?clan_id=10463
UGC Snowblindfrog: I'll have to ask our AC team. Not sure if we've ever reviewed him or not
cynex: kk
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Online.
cynex: so was he reviewed?
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Away.

Timestamps would be really helpful for this chatlog. For all we know you asked him then 10 minutes later messaged him again when he obviously wouldn't have an answer.

[quote=ApathyTF]UGC Snowblindfrog: Hey
cynex: my team is going against ssvw tonight as were 2 of the top 3 teams but as you know there sniper is a known hacker
cynex: http://www.teamfortress.tv/thread/23773/cheater-hacker-thread/?page=46
cynex: and has been caught in video and even told on by there old medic I think
cynex: Just wondering why he isn't banned
cynex: there's 100% evidence and playing against a hacker isn't fun
cynex: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page_matches.cfm?clan_id=10463
UGC Snowblindfrog: I'll have to ask our AC team. Not sure if we've ever reviewed him or not
cynex: kk
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Online.
cynex: so was he reviewed?
UGC Snowblindfrog is now Away.[/quote]

Timestamps would be really helpful for this chatlog. For all we know you asked him then 10 minutes later messaged him again when he obviously wouldn't have an answer.
1439
#1439
4 Frags +

He's at work, and he doesn't memorize who every silver team's sniper is. Cut him some slack.

He's at work, and he doesn't memorize who every silver team's sniper is. Cut him some slack.
1440
#1440
2 Frags +

Snowblind will not reply instantly. He has a ton of shit to do, I doubt he will put all of his attention towards this.

Snowblind will not reply instantly. He has a ton of shit to do, I doubt he will put all of his attention towards this.
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