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DeutschLAN drops TF2Center sponsorship
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#31
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shame to hear such a technically great website is run by idiots

shame to hear such a technically great website is run by idiots
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#32
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Will the TFTV casts still keep the TF2Center logo on? They do promote our streams, so there's that.

Will the TFTV casts still keep the TF2Center logo on? They do promote our streams, so there's that.
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#33
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REM_TF2indecencyan HL LAN and tf2center combined sounded like buttaids anyway plain and simple, you guys are writing too many words for this
A website which aims to give players a place to go to learn the rules and strategies of all forms of comp TF2 shouldn't sponsor a comp TF2 LAN event because?

shitty administration end quote

[quote=REM_TF2][quote=indecency]an HL LAN and tf2center combined sounded like buttaids anyway plain and simple, you guys are writing too many words for this[/quote]

A website which aims to give players a place to go to learn the rules and strategies of all forms of comp TF2 shouldn't sponsor a comp TF2 LAN event because?[/quote]
shitty administration end quote
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#34
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As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.

As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.
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#35
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https://i.imgur.com/E6JOe4n.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/E6JOe4n.png[/img]
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#36
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AFlyingNunAs a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event.

There have been multiple incidents about TF2Center admins banning folks left and right for stupid reason (the whole niggatron fiasco comes to mind).

[quote=AFlyingNun]As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event.[/quote]

There have been multiple incidents about TF2Center admins banning folks left and right for stupid reason (the whole niggatron fiasco comes to mind).
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#37
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AFlyingNunAs a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.

Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

[quote=AFlyingNun]As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.[/quote]

Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.
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#38
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a hl lan sounds really dumb imo

a hl lan sounds really dumb imo
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#39
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omniREM_TF2A website which aims to give players a place to go to learn the rules and strategies of all forms of comp TF2 shouldn't sponsor a comp TF2 LAN event because?
The people running it are viruses to the community and we don't want that infecting good community events.

I don't disagree with you. I just don't get why the previous poster didn't seem to understand the premise as the use of the word "anyway" in his sentence indicated.

[quote=omni][quote=REM_TF2]A website which aims to give players a place to go to learn the rules and strategies of all forms of comp TF2 shouldn't sponsor a comp TF2 LAN event because?[/quote]

The people running it are viruses to the community and we don't want that infecting good community events.[/quote]

I don't disagree with you. I just don't get why the previous poster didn't seem to understand the premise as the use of the word "anyway" in his sentence indicated.
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#40
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Oops apologies for the double post.

Oops apologies for the double post.
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#41
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Kaltu just been banned:

http://i.imgur.com/oFMc3sF.png

Kaltu just been banned:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/oFMc3sF.png[/img]
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#42
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CHERRYKaltu just been banned:
http://i.imgur.com/oFMc3sF.png

Masternoob just doesn't know when to quit does he? I'd love to see Masternoob explain the reasoning behind this. Banning someone who has put so much into the site is not cool.

[quote=CHERRY]Kaltu just been banned:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/oFMc3sF.png[/img][/quote]

Masternoob just doesn't know when to quit does he? I'd love to see Masternoob explain the reasoning behind this. Banning someone who has put so much into the site is not cool.
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#43
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REM_TF2AFlyingNunAs a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.
Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

But why such a grudge against RTC?

I myself have had the misfortune of being targeted by someone so childish, so spiteful and so vindictive that the grudge was held so alarmingly long for reasons I still don't understand. This was a person I treated as a friend and even gave stuff to, only to find out they wanted me to "pay" because....well, essentially I proved more knowledgeable and qualified than them in a group we belonged to so he got passed up for a position he wanted while I got it instead, and everyone praised my performance in said position. Fast forward to when I realized this guy hated my guts and he had a chance to basically get rid of me....? I was speechless. It was so insane and so depressing to realize people like that exist.

The whole bit between Masternoob and RTC just sounds too similar for me, and RTC has my deepest sympathies. I'm interested more in this story because I find it absolutely depressing to realize that such vindictive people exist in the world and that such people can actually get leadership positions, no matter how small they may be. I just cannot think of ANYTHING RTC could've done to legitimately warrant such an action.

Aside from that I've really only ever spoken to Fairy (though not much), who seems like a charming and nice enough person, so to hear the team has a reputation for being "toxic" as it's described here is just kind of an unpleasant surprise.

[quote=REM_TF2][quote=AFlyingNun]As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.[/quote]

Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.[/quote]


But why such a grudge against RTC?

I myself have had the misfortune of being targeted by someone so childish, so spiteful and so vindictive that the grudge was held so alarmingly long for reasons I still don't understand. This was a person I treated as a friend and even gave stuff to, only to find out they wanted me to "pay" because....well, essentially I proved more knowledgeable and qualified than them in a group we belonged to so he got passed up for a position he wanted while I got it instead, and everyone praised my performance in said position. Fast forward to when I realized this guy hated my guts and he had a chance to basically get rid of me....? I was speechless. It was so insane and so depressing to realize people like that exist.

The whole bit between Masternoob and RTC just sounds too similar for me, and RTC has my deepest sympathies. I'm interested more in this story because I find it absolutely depressing to realize that such vindictive people exist in the world and that such people can actually get leadership positions, no matter how small they may be. I just cannot think of ANYTHING RTC could've done to legitimately warrant such an action.

Aside from that I've really only ever spoken to Fairy (though not much), who seems like a charming and nice enough person, so to hear the team has a reputation for being "toxic" as it's described here is just kind of an unpleasant surprise.
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#44
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you see the reason right there

...

what a joke lol

you see the reason right there

...

what a joke lol
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#45
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TF2C | Ancer is more real than ever

Maybe this is however the boost TF2Pickup needs for expending into NA maybe?

TF2C | Ancer is more real than ever

Maybe this is however the boost TF2Pickup needs for expending into NA maybe?
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#46
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how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child

how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child
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#47
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hoolihow can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child

Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.

[quote=hooli]how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child[/quote] Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.
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#48
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Pyromancerhoolihow can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.

Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol

[quote=Pyromancer][quote=hooli]how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child[/quote] Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.[/quote]
Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol
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#49
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Bring back tf2lobby.com

Bring back tf2lobby.com
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#50
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What a tool. Someone who has put a ton of time into the website you made, only to ban them because they decided to leave because of the awful management and leadership that is going on there, only to give them the reason of "...".

That is some passive-aggressive bullshit. Grow up.

What a tool. Someone who has put a ton of time into the website you made, only to ban them because they decided to leave because of the awful management and leadership that is going on there, only to give them the reason of "...".

That is some passive-aggressive bullshit. Grow up.
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#51
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BonafidePyromancerhoolihow can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.

[quote=Bonafide][quote=Pyromancer][quote=hooli]how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child[/quote] Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.[/quote]
Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol[/quote]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.
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#52
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AFlyingNun But why such a grudge against RTC?

http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-27/#post-539367
http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-28/#post-539372

Although there's a LOT more to this story then what's just there. I've heard both sides of it already.

I myself have had the misfortune of being targeted by someone so childish, so spiteful and so vindictive that the grudge was held so alarmingly long for reasons I still don't understand. This was a person I treated as a friend and even gave stuff to, only to find out they wanted me to "pay" because....well, essentially I proved more knowledgeable and qualified than them in a group we belonged to so he got passed up for a position he wanted while I got it instead, and everyone praised my performance in said position. Fast forward to when I realized this guy hated my guts and he had a chance to basically get rid of me....? I was speechless. It was so insane and so depressing to realize people like that exist.

I think most people have that happen at some point in their life. I know it's happened to me and it really sucks.

Aside from that I've really only ever spoken to Fairy (though not much), who seems like a charming and nice enough person, so to hear the team has a reputation for being "toxic" as it's described here is just kind of an unpleasant surprise.

This is probably a good time to state that most admins at TF2C are actually really decent people. I know this because I used to work with some of them as an admin myself. I don't know what people thought of me but I know a lot of people like Foxy, Kkaltuu, Mattgician, Terry Crews, Showerfairy, RTC (outside of the staff), Kenneth and probably others too have great reputations. In fact really the only people who have bad reps are Masternoob (Site Owner + Head Programmer) and Mother Thereza (Graphic designer).

[quote=AFlyingNun] But why such a grudge against RTC? [/quote]

http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-27/#post-539367
http://etf2l.org/forum/lan/topic-30935/page-28/#post-539372

Although there's a LOT more to this story then what's just there. I've heard both sides of it already.

[quote] I myself have had the misfortune of being targeted by someone so childish, so spiteful and so vindictive that the grudge was held so alarmingly long for reasons I still don't understand. This was a person I treated as a friend and even gave stuff to, only to find out they wanted me to "pay" because....well, essentially I proved more knowledgeable and qualified than them in a group we belonged to so he got passed up for a position he wanted while I got it instead, and everyone praised my performance in said position. Fast forward to when I realized this guy hated my guts and he had a chance to basically get rid of me....? I was speechless. It was so insane and so depressing to realize people like that exist. [/quote]

I think most people have that happen at some point in their life. I know it's happened to me and it really sucks.

[quote]Aside from that I've really only ever spoken to Fairy (though not much), who seems like a charming and nice enough person, so to hear the team has a reputation for being "toxic" as it's described here is just kind of an unpleasant surprise.[/quote]

This is probably a good time to state that [i]most[/i] admins at TF2C are actually really decent people. I know this because I used to work with some of them as an admin myself. I don't know what people thought of me but I know a lot of people like Foxy, Kkaltuu, Mattgician, Terry Crews, Showerfairy, RTC (outside of the staff), Kenneth and probably others too have great reputations. In fact really the only people who have bad reps are Masternoob (Site Owner + Head Programmer) and Mother Thereza (Graphic designer).
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#53
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VoidWhispererBonafidePyromancerhoolihow can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.

I have nothing against you personally mate ;) I just was kind of tired of the way TF2C admins acted, and felt like acting like an ass

[quote=VoidWhisperer][quote=Bonafide][quote=Pyromancer][quote=hooli]how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child[/quote] Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.[/quote]
Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol[/quote]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.[/quote]
I have nothing against you personally mate ;) I just was kind of tired of the way TF2C admins acted, and felt like acting like an ass
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#54
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BonafideVoidWhispererBonafidePyromancerhoolihow can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol
I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.
I have nothing against you personally mate ;) I just was kind of tired of the way TF2C admins acted, and felt like acting like an ass

I kinda regret going as far as I did yesterday standing up for some of that stuff..

[quote=Bonafide][quote=VoidWhisperer][quote=Bonafide][quote=Pyromancer][quote=hooli]how can you be old enough to be married and still act like a child[/quote] Because when you amass that much power it goes to your head.[/quote]
Even in the beta Masternoob acted like this, banning people that focused him, or that said something as a joke to him in mumble and kick them from the game lol[/quote]

I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with you given yesterday, but this is kind of true.[/quote]
I have nothing against you personally mate ;) I just was kind of tired of the way TF2C admins acted, and felt like acting like an ass[/quote]

I kinda regret going as far as I did yesterday standing up for some of that stuff..
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#55
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now kiss

now kiss
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#56
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http://pngimg.com/upload/lips_PNG6231.png

[img]http://pngimg.com/upload/lips_PNG6231.png[/img]
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19:55:06 TF2C | ninjaMooCow #bumlicker: The leadership and PR needs to change.
19:58:02 TF2C | ninjaMooCow #bumlicker: some things are good. we need to fix the broken stuff.
21:46:36 TF2C | Muselk: There will be an announcement tomorrow night about the recent news regarding Tf2c from the staff and the head admins. It will be posted in the forums for everyone to read and comment.

Come back tommorow for more crispy drama.

https://oksofar.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/hiatus.jpg

[quote]19:55:06 TF2C | ninjaMooCow #bumlicker: The leadership and PR needs to change.
19:58:02 TF2C | ninjaMooCow #bumlicker: some things are good. we need to fix the broken stuff.[/quote]
[quote]21:46:36 TF2C | Muselk: There will be an announcement tomorrow night about the recent news regarding Tf2c from the staff and the head admins. It will be posted in the forums for everyone to read and comment.[/quote]
Come back tommorow for more crispy drama.
[img]https://oksofar.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/hiatus.jpg[/img]
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#58
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REM_TF2AFlyingNunAs a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.
Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

What also comes to mind is my first ban. I did some trashtalk on /r/tf2 about masternoob and mother tereza. Received a 10year ban.
Imagine if admins on other sites would be as quick with the banning as TF2C is :-/

[quote=REM_TF2][quote=AFlyingNun]As a pure onlooker I'm just curious: where exactly does the negative rep with TF2C admins come from? Aside from the example given here of course. I just can't imagine why an admin would go out of their way to spitefully get one person barred from an event. Even if RTC kicked his puppy, it'd be irrelevant to anything TF2 related and he should understand that, not try to exhibit force to try and ruin the guy's participation in the TF2 community.[/quote]

Certain TF2C staff have been getting into spats with various parts of the TF2 community. The first time was probably when a bunch of Team Colonslash people got banned from the site but I can't even remember why but I remember it was stupid and one of the staff members (Foxy) later apologised on the ETF2L forums for it. Aside from that it's just been very blunt/rude posts on the ETF2L forums, banning players because they don't like them/for minor things and now this. That's all I can remember off the top of my head.[/quote]

What also comes to mind is my first ban. I did some trashtalk on /r/tf2 about masternoob and mother tereza. Received a 10year ban.
Imagine if admins on other sites would be as quick with the banning as TF2C is :-/
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#59
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http://puu.sh/iNhKF/2f9a79ad1e.png

ayy

[img]http://puu.sh/iNhKF/2f9a79ad1e.png[/img]

ayy
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#60
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What also comes to mind is my first ban. I did some trashtalk on /r/tf2 about masternoob and mother tereza. Received a 10year ban.
Imagine if admins on other sites would be as quick with the banning as TF2C is :-/

To be honest I'm surprised I'm not banned yet. Just double checked and I'm not banned from forums at least. Funny really because I know for a fact they are super pissed off at me and they quite happily banned kkaltuu so yeah no idea what's going on in their heads.

Mumahttp://puu.sh/iNhKF/2f9a79ad1e.png

ayy

That's pretty funny but real talk for a sec, that kind of stuff reaffirms this belief of theirs that the whole (or at least most) of ETF2L are against them and are out to get them. I know this to be the case because they've told me as much before.

[quote]What also comes to mind is my first ban. I did some trashtalk on /r/tf2 about masternoob and mother tereza. Received a 10year ban.
Imagine if admins on other sites would be as quick with the banning as TF2C is :-/[/quote]

To be honest I'm surprised I'm not banned yet. Just double checked and I'm not banned from forums at least. Funny really because I know for a fact they are super pissed off at me and they quite happily banned kkaltuu so yeah no idea what's going on in their heads.

[quote=Muma][img]http://puu.sh/iNhKF/2f9a79ad1e.png[/img]

ayy[/quote]

That's pretty funny but real talk for a sec, that kind of stuff reaffirms this belief of theirs that the whole (or at least most) of ETF2L are against them and are out to get them. I know this to be the case because they've told me as much before.
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