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First of all, this is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GqBpNG

I've been receiving sub-par frames that I have decided is related to my computer not tf2. In DM servers (you would think this would be less intensive) my frames are around 140 constant and dips as low as 110 with only tf2 and mumble open. I use chris' dx9 frames but when I use max frames on dx8 I only benefit 20-30 frames.

Initially I accounted it to tf2 being the demon it is and the game itself being the issue but I downloaded Tribes Ascend and was only able to recieve 80 frames.

Issues I have checked:
1. My CPU is not being choked by the temperature, it doesn't exceed 70 C (Usually around 55-60) at any point while playing tf2
2. I just recently reinstalled windows and tf2 (when I got my new SSD) and this didn't help
3. As I said I tried using a cfg designed for more FPS
4. I have tried both windowed borderless and fullscreen

First of all, this is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GqBpNG

I've been receiving sub-par frames that I have decided is related to my computer not tf2. In DM servers (you would think this would be less intensive) my frames are around 140 constant and dips as low as 110 with only tf2 and mumble open. I use chris' dx9 frames but when I use max frames on dx8 I only benefit 20-30 frames.

Initially I accounted it to tf2 being the demon it is and the game itself being the issue but I downloaded Tribes Ascend and was only able to recieve 80 frames.

Issues I have checked:
1. My CPU is not being choked by the temperature, it doesn't exceed 70 C (Usually around 55-60) at any point while playing tf2
2. I just recently reinstalled windows and tf2 (when I got my new SSD) and this didn't help
3. As I said I tried using a cfg designed for more FPS
4. I have tried both windowed borderless and fullscreen
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#2
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If you are running a dual boot windows, I would advise you to try your TF2 on your other OS. I had a dual boot setup, both identical and one peformed 70-80% better than the other.

If you are running a dual boot windows, I would advise you to try your TF2 on your other OS. I had a dual boot setup, both identical and one peformed 70-80% better than the other.
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#3
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Unless you pirated Windows (nobody does that right) and got a bad rip or crack, it must be with your hardware. That power supply is pretty bad but Nvidia cards don't eat a lot of power. It must be that you didn't install something correctly, you received faulty hardware, or you damaged something while building it.

Unless you pirated Windows (nobody does that right) and got a bad rip or crack, it must be with your hardware. That power supply is pretty bad but Nvidia cards don't eat a lot of power. It must be that you didn't install something correctly, you received faulty hardware, or you damaged something while building it.
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potThat power supply is pretty bad

?????????

There's no way his system consumes more than 350W under load, plus Corsair is a decent PSU brand. Please explain.

[quote=pot]That power supply is pretty bad[/quote]

?????????

There's no way his system consumes more than 350W under load, plus Corsair is a decent PSU brand. Please explain.
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#5
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The CX 500W is actually one of the best of it's price category.. lol
People have no clue when it comes to PSU's.

The CX 500W is actually one of the best of it's price category.. lol
People have no clue when it comes to PSU's.
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#6
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Aw you should have opted for the k processor. Historically, H-motherboards did not have overclocking as an option but as of recent, it's available on certain boards(yours included).

I recommend getting a cpu cooler, regardless of your current cpu temps, it will help performance.
I also recommend enabling turbo boost in your bios since overclocking is out of the question.

Hmm, you shouldn't be running into any pci-e lane bottlenecks. Your two ram sticks should be placed in the two black slots.

See if rolling back your nvidia driver helps :/

Aw you should have opted for the k processor. Historically, H-motherboards did not have overclocking as an option but as of recent, it's available on certain boards(yours included).

I recommend getting a cpu cooler, regardless of your current cpu temps, it will help performance.
I also recommend enabling turbo boost in your bios since overclocking is out of the question.

Hmm, you shouldn't be running into any pci-e lane bottlenecks. Your two ram sticks should be placed in the two black slots.

See if rolling back your nvidia driver helps :/
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#7
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As I said, for a GTX760 the actual wattage isn't the issue. That power supply is shit tier though. It's the lowest quality Corsair you can get. I cheaped out for a bit and had the non-modular version of it before returning it.

As I said, for a GTX760 the actual wattage isn't the issue. That power supply is shit tier though. It's the lowest quality Corsair you can get. I cheaped out for a bit and had the non-modular version of it before returning it.
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#8
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yea i upgraded my psu and my frames shot up

yea i upgraded my psu and my frames shot up
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Knuckles_First of all, this is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GqBpNG

I've been receiving sub-par frames that I have decided is related to my computer not tf2. In DM servers (you would think this would be less intensive) my frames are around 140 constant and dips as low as 110 with only tf2 and mumble open. I use chris' dx9 frames but when I use max frames on dx8 I only benefit 20-30 frames.

Initially I accounted it to tf2 being the demon it is and the game itself being the issue but I downloaded Tribes Ascend and was only able to recieve 80 frames.

Issues I have checked:
1. My CPU is not being choked by the temperature, it doesn't exceed 70 C (Usually around 55-60) at any point while playing tf2
2. I just recently reinstalled windows and tf2 (when I got my new SSD) and this didn't help
3. As I said I tried using a cfg designed for more FPS
4. I have tried both windowed borderless and fullscreen

Alright, I will firstly ask, did you properly check that CPU fan is properly attached?Do you have a good airflow in the case? What temps do you get from the GPU? Do you have some funky processes running?(some people actually just install a heap of programs and let them be resource hogging shit). Do you use the latest nvidia driver, if so; do you use the nvidia geforce experience?(usually no one does, so it's safe to remove it completely). Do you have an antivirus running, if so; Do you let it search through the folders where steam is located?(recommend you avoid this). I do hope, since you're using a SSD that you moved swap to a regular HDD, you could eventually close it, once you add more memory(ram) in a near future.

P.S - There is nothing wrong with his PSU. For those who are doubtful, please look at some reviews and benchmarks of it, it performs well.

[quote=Knuckles_]First of all, this is my build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GqBpNG

I've been receiving sub-par frames that I have decided is related to my computer not tf2. In DM servers (you would think this would be less intensive) my frames are around 140 constant and dips as low as 110 with only tf2 and mumble open. I use chris' dx9 frames but when I use max frames on dx8 I only benefit 20-30 frames.

Initially I accounted it to tf2 being the demon it is and the game itself being the issue but I downloaded Tribes Ascend and was only able to recieve 80 frames.

Issues I have checked:
1. My CPU is not being choked by the temperature, it doesn't exceed 70 C (Usually around 55-60) at any point while playing tf2
2. I just recently reinstalled windows and tf2 (when I got my new SSD) and this didn't help
3. As I said I tried using a cfg designed for more FPS
4. I have tried both windowed borderless and fullscreen[/quote]

Alright, I will firstly ask, did you properly check that CPU fan is properly attached?Do you have a good airflow in the case? What temps do you get from the GPU? Do you have some funky processes running?(some people actually just install a heap of programs and let them be resource hogging shit). Do you use the latest nvidia driver, if so; do you use the nvidia geforce experience?(usually no one does, so it's safe to remove it completely). Do you have an antivirus running, if so; Do you let it search through the folders where steam is located?(recommend you avoid this). I do hope, since you're using a SSD that you moved swap to a regular HDD, you could eventually close it, once you add more memory(ram) in a near future.

P.S - There is nothing wrong with his PSU. For those who are doubtful, please look at some reviews and benchmarks of it, it performs well.
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#10
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#1
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/7598/tf2-benchmarks
Do the benchmark and post the results.
DM servers are pretty much 10 players in one place constantly shooting each other, about as intense as it gets apart from 32 man pubs.

Not even gonna bother responding to #3.

#4/#5
Corsair is not a PSU brand. Corsair is just rebranding. They haven't manufactured or designed a single PSU.
Don't fucking buy PSUs based on who rebranded them.
90% of Corsair PSUs are overpriced.
Quality varies from barely acceptable (CX series) to excellent (AXi series).
The CX series is definitely not one of the best in it's price category at MSRP, however they're on sale very often. For example the CX430M at 30$ is basically like the 212 Evo at 20$. At normal prices (40-50$ respectively 30-35$) there are a number of better options, but at those prices they're hard to beat. That doesn't make them any better though. I only recommend the CX series when budget is very tight and they're on sale, just like I only recommend the 212 Evo when noise is not a concern and it's on sale and I'm trying to shave off another 10$.

#7
What PSU do you have now?
Amuse me.

#1
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/7598/tf2-benchmarks
Do the benchmark and post the results.
DM servers are pretty much 10 players in one place constantly shooting each other, about as intense as it gets apart from 32 man pubs.


Not even gonna bother responding to #3.

#4/#5
Corsair is not a PSU brand. Corsair is just rebranding. They haven't manufactured or designed a single PSU.
[b]Don't fucking buy PSUs based on who rebranded them.[/b]
90% of Corsair PSUs are overpriced.
Quality varies from barely acceptable (CX series) to excellent (AXi series).
The CX series is definitely not one of the best in it's price category at MSRP, however they're on sale very often. For example the CX430M at 30$ is basically like the 212 Evo at 20$. At normal prices (40-50$ respectively 30-35$) there are a number of better options, but at those prices they're hard to beat. That doesn't make them any better though. I only recommend the CX series when budget is very tight and they're on sale, just like I only recommend the 212 Evo when noise is not a concern and it's on sale and I'm trying to shave off another 10$.

#7
What PSU do you have now?
Amuse me.
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#11
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I know Corsair PSUs are usually rebranded Seasonic/Flextronics PSUs, but found out that series CX430 - C600V2 are actually Channel Well(CWT) rebrands, so I actually wouldn't recommend. A XFX 550W Pro is a better choice, and around the same price as the corsair where I live.

But let's stop the elitism PSU and actually help this guy :P

I know Corsair PSUs are usually rebranded Seasonic/Flextronics PSUs, but found out that series CX430 - C600V2 are actually Channel Well(CWT) rebrands, so I actually wouldn't recommend. A XFX 550W Pro is a better choice, and around the same price as the corsair where I live.

But let's stop the elitism PSU and actually help this guy :P
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#12
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Have you checked your power settings? Make sure you have performance mode enabled, I think there is an option for this both in the BIOS and the OS.

Also, do some benchmarks on your parts, because a friend of mine just got a graphics card that scored lower than the rest of the same type and brand; I guess it was just a bad part.

Also don't listen to me, listen to setsul on hardware issues.

Have you checked your power settings? Make sure you have performance mode enabled, I think there is an option for this both in the BIOS and the OS.

Also, do some benchmarks on your parts, because a friend of mine just got a graphics card that scored lower than the rest of the same type and brand; I guess it was just a bad part.

Also don't listen to me, listen to setsul on hardware issues.
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Skip this Corsair PSU rant if you don't care about marketing bullshit.

Sorry I just can't let this stand.
Two thirds of all Corsair PSUs are CWT. That doesn't qualify as "usually Seasonic/Flextronics". They're even phasing out Seasonic now. Look at the HXi series. CWT units at higher prices than Seasonic. Corsair is trying to cash in on the reputation that Seasonic/Flextronics units built up for them.

And don't recommend by brand name. Going by the rebranding (in this case XFX) is absolutely pointless, going by the OEM is pointless most of the time too. Go by the performance/quality of the specific platform and the price.

I'm sorry for this off-topic rant, but I don't want anyone to fall for Corsair's or anyone else's marketing. The RM/HXi series is the pinnacle of that. Corsair got greedy so they went from selling rebranded Seasonic units at Seasonic's prices (->little profit) to selling cheaper CWT units at even higher prices Seasonic (->fuckton of profit) by advertising useless features* and by making people it's still the same quality the Seasonic units had.

*RM series: fan doesn't turn on until 50% load -> quiet, but overheats
HXi series: corsair link -> useless gimmick

Skip this Corsair PSU rant if you don't care about marketing bullshit.


Sorry I just can't let this stand.
Two thirds of all Corsair PSUs are CWT. That doesn't qualify as "usually Seasonic/Flextronics". They're even phasing out Seasonic now. Look at the HXi series. CWT units at higher prices than Seasonic. Corsair is trying to cash in on the reputation that Seasonic/Flextronics units built up for them.

And don't recommend by brand name. Going by the rebranding (in this case XFX) is absolutely pointless, going by the OEM is pointless most of the time too. Go by the performance/quality of the specific platform and the [b]price[/b].

I'm sorry for this off-topic rant, but I don't want anyone to fall for Corsair's or anyone else's marketing. The RM/HXi series is the pinnacle of that. Corsair got greedy so they went from selling rebranded Seasonic units at Seasonic's prices (->little profit) to selling cheaper CWT units at even higher prices Seasonic (->fuckton of profit) by advertising useless features* and by making people it's still the same quality the Seasonic units had.

*RM series: fan doesn't turn on until 50% load -> quiet, but overheats
HXi series: corsair link -> useless gimmick
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#14
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Have you made sure mat_queue_mode is set to 0?

This also is the advanced video option of "enable multicore rendering"

What % of your CPU does TF2 use when running?

Have you made sure mat_queue_mode is set to 0?

This also is the advanced video option of "enable multicore rendering"

What % of your CPU does TF2 use when running?
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#15
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Also a recent TF2 update brought us this command:

- Added experimental cpu_frequency_monitoring convar to detect thermal throttling. If you have TF2 performance problems on Windows, add "+cpu_frequency_monitoring 2" to the TF2 command line to see if CPU thermal throttling is an issue. If the displayed CPU frequency percentage drops below about 80-85% then you may have a problem with your CPU slowing down due to overheating. If it drops below 50-55% then you may have a serious problem. CPU overheating can be caused by overclocking, insufficient cooling, insufficient airflow, failing or dirty fans, or other causes. The CPU frequency results are displayed with cl_showfps or net_graph. For more detail see https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...2715-YIPD-6873

So this will verify that your CPU isn't downclocking!

Also a recent TF2 update brought us this command:

- Added experimental cpu_frequency_monitoring convar to detect thermal throttling. If you have TF2 performance problems on Windows, add "+cpu_frequency_monitoring 2" to the TF2 command line to see if CPU thermal throttling is an issue. If the displayed CPU frequency percentage drops below about 80-85% then you may have a problem with your CPU slowing down due to overheating. If it drops below 50-55% then you may have a serious problem. CPU overheating can be caused by overclocking, insufficient cooling, insufficient airflow, failing or dirty fans, or other causes. The CPU frequency results are displayed with cl_showfps or net_graph. For more detail see https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...2715-YIPD-6873

So this will verify that your CPU isn't downclocking!
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TechDudeAlso a recent TF2 update brought us this command:

- Added experimental cpu_frequency_monitoring convar to detect thermal throttling. If you have TF2 performance problems on Windows, add "+cpu_frequency_monitoring 2" to the TF2 command line to see if CPU thermal throttling is an issue. If the displayed CPU frequency percentage drops below about 80-85% then you may have a problem with your CPU slowing down due to overheating. If it drops below 50-55% then you may have a serious problem. CPU overheating can be caused by overclocking, insufficient cooling, insufficient airflow, failing or dirty fans, or other causes. The CPU frequency results are displayed with cl_showfps or net_graph. For more detail see https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...2715-YIPD-6873

So this will verify that your CPU isn't downclocking!

the link doesn't work.

[quote=TechDude]Also a recent TF2 update brought us this command:

- Added experimental cpu_frequency_monitoring convar to detect thermal throttling. If you have TF2 performance problems on Windows, add "+cpu_frequency_monitoring 2" to the TF2 command line to see if CPU thermal throttling is an issue. If the displayed CPU frequency percentage drops below about 80-85% then you may have a problem with your CPU slowing down due to overheating. If it drops below 50-55% then you may have a serious problem. CPU overheating can be caused by overclocking, insufficient cooling, insufficient airflow, failing or dirty fans, or other causes. The CPU frequency results are displayed with cl_showfps or net_graph. For more detail see https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...2715-YIPD-6873

So this will verify that your CPU isn't downclocking![/quote]


the link doesn't work.
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#17
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Correct link is to
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2715-YIPD-6873

Correct link is to
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=2715-YIPD-6873
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SetsulI'm sorry for this off-topic rant, but I don't want anyone to fall for Corsair's or anyone else's marketing.

Thank you for that, I had no idea Corsair didn't manufacture their own PSUs. Do they manufacture any hardware themselves?

[quote=Setsul]I'm sorry for this off-topic rant, but I don't want anyone to fall for Corsair's or anyone else's marketing.[/quote]

Thank you for that, I had no idea Corsair didn't manufacture their own PSUs. Do they manufacture any hardware themselves?
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#19
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Hey guys, thank you all for the help. Besides the PSU talk this has alol been very helpful ;)

1. I have performance priority in both BIOS and OS
2. mat_queue_mode is set to 0 by my config
3. I will run benchmarks ASAP and post the results here!

Thanks again guys :)

Hey guys, thank you all for the help. Besides the PSU talk this has alol been very helpful ;)

1. I have performance priority in both BIOS and OS
2. mat_queue_mode is set to 0 by my config
3. I will run benchmarks ASAP and post the results here!

Thanks again guys :)
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#20
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As a comparison: I also have the GTX 760 and the i5 4670. I'm using Comanglia's fps config on dx8 and my frames never drop below 160 in fights.

As a comparison: I also have the GTX 760 and the i5 4670. I'm using Comanglia's fps config on dx8 and my frames never drop below 160 in fights.
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Using the latest Nvidia drivers? Try changing the power management mode to "prefer maximum peformance" for the TF2 profile.

Using the latest Nvidia drivers? Try changing the power management mode to "prefer maximum peformance" for the TF2 profile.
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This is the result of my benchmark:

2639 frames 25.842 seconds 102.12 fps ( 9.79 ms/f) 3.982 fps variability
This is the result of my benchmark:

[quote]2639 frames 25.842 seconds 102.12 fps ( 9.79 ms/f) 3.982 fps variability
[/quote]
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again a small psu rant sorry :>

SetsulLot of hatred and bullshit

I don't get where you got your "two third number" since 21 out of the 40 PSUs Corsair rebrands are from CWT, and most of those CWT models aren't even sold a lot since most of them are in the higher Watt category. All casual models for your average buyer are made by Seasonic and Flextronics (except the CX series), not to forget that corsair stopped rebranding new models from CWT for more than a year now since their newest AX series, there really isn't any reason not to buy PSUs from Corsair since they also provide excellent Customer service and warranty.

again a small psu rant sorry :>

[quote=Setsul]Lot of hatred and bullshit[/quote]
I don't get where you got your "two third number" since 21 out of the 40 PSUs Corsair rebrands are from CWT, and most of those CWT models aren't even sold a lot since most of them are in the higher Watt category. All casual models for your average buyer are made by Seasonic and Flextronics (except the CX series), not to forget that corsair stopped rebranding new models from CWT for more than a year now since their newest AX series, there really isn't any reason not to buy PSUs from Corsair since they also provide excellent Customer service and warranty.
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Setsul snip

Most major brands do that regardless of the product...No need to be so abrasive about it. Not everyone looks up company suppliers when they do their normal shopping.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers - for anyone interested.

Brand name recommendation is still valid. It's common knowledge that every brand has a low tier products and high tier products, especially with electronic goods. You're assuming that everyone is blindly buying these without an understanding of a very common business model. Quality of RMA support is a very brand specific quality. I've heard nothing but good things from their rma customer support.

Setsul*RM series: fan doesn't turn on until 50% load -> quiet, but overheats
HXi series: corsair link -> useless gimmick

Quiet but overheats, that's a moot point at best. I'd like to see your source material. Even if that's the case, such options can be changed with fan controllers.

Corsair link can monitor your PSU's Power Output,Temps, and fan speed. Integrated thermal monitoring for psu's is normally a server grade option only. It could help troubleshoot an issue, or prevent one from occurring. It's not something everyone needs or cares about, but that's why it's available on certain models, and not on others.
NZXT's CAM SOFTWARE is similar.

NZXTNZXT CAM allows you to control your Kraken X61’s fan speeds, Hue lighting, and other custom cooling settings. The Kraken+ CAM module is also available in CAM Mobile, allowing you to monitor temps and adjust your Kraken fans and Hue remotely from the convenience of your mobile phone.

Not everyone buys for aesthetics or convenience, some appreciate the comforts.

tl;dr Marketing is in everything. You don't have to be a cunt about it.

[quote=Setsul] snip[/quote]

Most major brands do that regardless of the product...No need to be so abrasive about it. Not everyone looks up company suppliers when they do their normal shopping.
http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers - for anyone interested.

Brand name recommendation is still valid. It's common knowledge that every brand has a low tier products and high tier products, especially with electronic goods. You're assuming that everyone is blindly buying these without an understanding of a very common business model. Quality of RMA support is a very brand specific quality. I've heard nothing but good things from their rma customer support.

[quote=Setsul]
*RM series: fan doesn't turn on until 50% load -> quiet, but overheats
HXi series: corsair link -> useless gimmick[/quote]

Quiet but overheats, that's a moot point at best. I'd like to see your source material. Even if that's the case, such options can be changed with fan controllers.

Corsair link can monitor your PSU's Power Output,Temps, and fan speed. Integrated thermal monitoring for psu's is normally a server grade option only. It could help troubleshoot an issue, or prevent one from occurring. It's not something everyone needs or cares about, but that's why it's available on certain models, and not on others.
NZXT's CAM SOFTWARE is similar.
[quote=NZXT]NZXT CAM allows you to control your Kraken X61’s fan speeds, Hue lighting, and other custom cooling settings. The Kraken+ CAM module is also available in CAM Mobile, allowing you to monitor temps and adjust your Kraken fans and Hue remotely from the convenience of your mobile phone.[/quote] Not everyone buys for aesthetics or convenience, some appreciate the comforts.

tl;dr Marketing is in everything. You don't have to be a cunt about it.
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#25
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Try setting your power settings to high performance in windows, and try un-parking your cores. http://www.coderbag.com/programming-c/disable-cpu-core-parking-utility
Also try systematically disabling "power saving" features in your bios.
As far as mumble goes make sure its on normal priority.

Try setting your power settings to high performance in windows, and try un-parking your cores. http://www.coderbag.com/programming-c/disable-cpu-core-parking-utility
Also try systematically disabling "power saving" features in your bios.
As far as mumble goes make sure its on normal priority.
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#26
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http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
the cx500 is made by CWT. Although CWT's power supplies for corsair's HX series are pretty solid (some are excellent), the quality of the lower end power supplies they make for corsair are not the greatest.

I wouldn't say alot of the casual ones are seasonic. Some of the lower wattage HX/AX series are seasonic but those are gold/platinum rated and shouldn't be considered within the price range of casual. Plus most of the seasonics are discontinued anyways. So, most corsairs NOW are actually CWT.

The XFX Pro 550 is a seasonic rebrand. Seasonic tends to treat all their PSUs with the same quality treatment where as CWT seems to only put more effort into their top of the line models.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/
Jonnyguru has alot of in-depth reviews of many psu's. Check it out if you're ever looking for one.

http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
the cx500 is made by CWT. Although CWT's power supplies for corsair's HX series are pretty solid (some are excellent), the quality of the lower end power supplies they make for corsair are not the greatest.

I wouldn't say alot of the casual ones are seasonic. Some of the lower wattage HX/AX series are seasonic but those are gold/platinum rated and shouldn't be considered within the price range of casual. Plus most of the seasonics are discontinued anyways. So, most corsairs NOW are actually CWT.

The XFX Pro 550 is a seasonic rebrand. Seasonic tends to treat all their PSUs with the same quality treatment where as CWT seems to only put more effort into their top of the line models.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/
Jonnyguru has alot of in-depth reviews of many psu's. Check it out if you're ever looking for one.
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#27
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Knuckles_Hey guys, thank you all for the help. Besides the PSU talk this has alol been very helpful ;)

2. mat_queue_mode is set to 0 by my config

Thanks again guys :)

try setting mat_queue_mode to "2" or "-1"
and cl_threaded_bone_setup 1
Please, post the result of your benchmarks =)

[quote=Knuckles_]Hey guys, thank you all for the help. Besides the PSU talk this has alol been very helpful ;)

2. mat_queue_mode is set to 0 by my config

Thanks again guys :)[/quote]
try setting mat_queue_mode to "2" or "-1"
and cl_threaded_bone_setup 1
Please, post the result of your benchmarks =)
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#22
That's indeed a bit low.
Set mat_queue_mode to "2", that should enable multithreading. Only if 2 causes any issues should you try "-1".
Don't try cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 at the same time, it's known to cause crashes. Verify that mat_queue_mode 2 isn't crashing, then you can try this to get some extra fps.

#23
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
I stand corrected, if you're not counting discoutinued units it's only 62% CWT.
3 Seasonic, 4 Flextronics, 2 Chicony, 4 Great Wall, rest CWT.

Current Seasonic units: HX650, AX760, AX860
All 4 Flextronics units are in the AXi series.
HX650 is Gold, Ax1500i is Titanium, rest is Platinum.
Imho none of these are "casual models for your average buyer", but what do I know?

So Corsair stopped rebranding CWT units more than a year ago? I must've dreamt the HXi series then.

#24
Brand name provides absolutely no information about the quality of a PSU. How is it valid for a recommendation?
I'd rather have a PSU that doesn't fail with bad RMA support, than a failing PSU with good RMA support. If your PSU dies it can take a lot of components with it and no brand is going to cover that.

I highly doubt Corsair does any of the actual RMA on PSUs themselves. Look at the rebranded Seasonic units. 7 year warranty. Look at the same models direclty form seasonic. 7 year warranty.

Overheats as in shuts down.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750_750w_power_supply_review/4
And you can't change the fan speed without opening it and voiding your warranty.

You can't rate a PSU for 40°C if it's guaranteed to trigger OTP 35°C or if you don't have other fans blowing into it. It renders the passive mode pointless if you need other fans to cool it.
It's also a wrong rating. For me that's the same category as overrating the wattage. Absolutely inacceptable.

I'd rather have the money for Corsair link put into a better platform, but to each his own I guess.

#26
Exactly.

#22
That's indeed a bit low.
Set mat_queue_mode to "2", that should enable multithreading. Only if 2 causes any issues should you try "-1".
Don't try cl_threaded_bone_setup 1 at the same time, it's known to cause crashes. Verify that mat_queue_mode 2 isn't crashing, then you can try this to get some extra fps.



#23
http://www.realhardtechx.com/index_archivos/Page447.htm
I stand corrected, if you're not counting discoutinued units it's only 62% CWT.
3 Seasonic, 4 Flextronics, 2 Chicony, 4 Great Wall, rest CWT.

Current Seasonic units: HX650, AX760, AX860
All 4 Flextronics units are in the AXi series.
HX650 is Gold, Ax1500i is Titanium, rest is Platinum.
Imho none of these are "casual models for your average buyer", but what do I know?

So Corsair stopped rebranding CWT units more than a year ago? I must've dreamt the HXi series then.

#24
Brand name provides absolutely no information about the quality of a PSU. How is it valid for a recommendation?
I'd rather have a PSU that doesn't fail with bad RMA support, than a failing PSU with good RMA support. If your PSU dies it can take a lot of components with it and no brand is going to cover that.

I highly doubt Corsair does any of the actual RMA on PSUs themselves. Look at the rebranded Seasonic units. 7 year warranty. Look at the same models direclty form seasonic. 7 year warranty.


Overheats as in shuts down.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/13/corsair_rm750_750w_power_supply_review/4
And you can't change the fan speed without opening it and voiding your warranty.

You can't rate a PSU for 40°C if it's guaranteed to trigger OTP 35°C [b]or[/b] if you don't have other fans blowing into it. It renders the passive mode pointless if you need other fans to cool it.
It's also a wrong rating. For me that's the same category as overrating the wattage. Absolutely inacceptable.

I'd rather have the money for Corsair link put into a better platform, but to each his own I guess.

#26
Exactly.
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#29
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Setsulsnip

The article you linked was written the day before they addressed that issue.

Update - November 14, 2013:
In an effort to improve our products for all of our users, we have updated the RM750 and RM850 to resolve this issue. The thermistor circuit that is used to measure the temperature for the fan controller and OTP has been changed in all RM750 and RM850 PSU’s moving forward. An additional resistor has been added that will result in the fan turning on prior to the condition that causes the PSU to shut down in the event that temperatures exceed 45°C.

I didn't say they did. They handle the customer service part, and whoever made the product does the repair(s).(in such a case)

I wouldn't buy a psu specifically for it either. I'm not trying to defend corsair as a brand, merely stating facts.

Noctua is the only pc component brand with an entire line of outstanding products. :3

[quote=Setsul]snip[/quote]

The article you linked was written the day before they addressed that issue.

Update - November 14, 2013:
In an effort to improve our products for all of our users, we have updated the RM750 and RM850 to resolve this issue. The thermistor circuit that is used to measure the temperature for the fan controller and OTP has been changed in all RM750 and RM850 PSU’s moving forward. An additional resistor has been added that will result in the fan turning on prior to the condition that causes the PSU to shut down in the event that temperatures exceed 45°C.

I didn't say they did. They handle the customer service part, and whoever made the product does the repair(s).(in such a case)

I wouldn't buy a psu specifically for it either. I'm not trying to defend corsair as a brand, merely stating facts.

Noctua is the only pc component brand with an entire line of outstanding products. :3
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#30
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You don't understand my point.
It doesn't work under the conditions it's specified for.
It never should've made it to the market.
It means that neither the designer, nor Corsair, nor Quality Control properly tested any of those units. They just rated them based on "It should work". That's terrifying.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363
There's a jumper missing. It won't do any damage but that PSU doesn't even meet the ATX spec anymore. Technically they can't legally sell this.

Even though none of this issue would cause any damage they're still showing that QC doesn't exist at all or is not doing it's job. I've seen a similar case. 80% of the units were out of spec by 3-5% to the "good side". Not an issues but it's still out of spec. We almost lost a contract. Heads rolled, I can tell you that.

My point is that Corsair is saving money on Quality and Quality Control while increasing the prices. I'm perfectly fine with them trying to increase their profit, but that's just screwing the customers over.

Agree on noctua, excellent customer support aswell. It's like Seasonic, it might not be cheap, but at least it's good.

Corsair right now is "It might not be cheap, but ... uhm ... it got Corsair Link!"

You don't understand my point.
It doesn't work under the conditions it's specified for.
It never should've made it to the market.
It means that neither the designer, nor Corsair, nor Quality Control properly tested any of those units. They just rated them based on "It should work". That's terrifying.

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363
There's a jumper missing. It won't do any damage but that PSU doesn't even meet the ATX spec anymore. Technically they can't legally sell this.

Even though none of this issue would cause any damage they're still showing that QC doesn't exist at all or is not doing it's job. I've seen a similar case. 80% of the units were out of spec by 3-5% to the "good side". Not an issues but it's still out of spec. We almost lost a contract. Heads rolled, I can tell you that.

My point is that Corsair is saving money on Quality and Quality Control while increasing the prices. I'm perfectly fine with them trying to increase their profit, but that's just screwing the customers over.

Agree on noctua, excellent customer support aswell. It's like Seasonic, it might not be cheap, but at least it's good.

Corsair right now is "It might not be cheap, but ... uhm ... it got Corsair Link!"
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