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What lack of sex does to you
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#91
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Harbingerjulesdoingworkuh no, this is what male entitlement does to you
Are you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened because he had serious mental problems. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."

It goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon! He had serious mental problems, but if this weren't motivated by a misogynistic ideology (I'd recommend reading the epilogue of his manifesto if you don't believe me: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto) he would have shot the people around him. Did he do that? No. He deliberately went after women who allegedly turned him down.

There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.

[quote=Harbinger][quote=julesdoingwork]uh no, this is what male entitlement does to you [/quote]


Are you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened [i]because he had serious mental problems[/i]. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."[/quote]

It goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon! He had serious mental problems, but if this weren't motivated by a misogynistic ideology (I'd recommend reading the epilogue of his manifesto if you don't believe me: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto) he would have shot the people around him. Did he do that? No. He deliberately went after women who allegedly turned him down.

There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.
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#92
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I think this guy is a little selfish. The stuff about anime making you a perma-virgin is true though.

I think this guy is a little selfish. The stuff about anime making you a perma-virgin is true though.
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#93
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http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired-of-seeing-losers-with-hot-chicks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html

http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired-of-seeing-losers-with-hot-chicks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html
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#94
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Each time I see new info about this guy the whole thing just gets freakier

Each time I see new info about this guy the whole thing just gets freakier
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#95
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bimmer boys need pussy

bimmer boys need pussy
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#96
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http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468

http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468
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#97
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hoolithey found 3 bodies in his apartment

http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468
kirbyhttp://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468

little late

[quote=hooli]they found 3 bodies in his apartment

http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468[/quote]

[quote=kirby]http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468[/quote]

little late
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#98
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tmoneyhoolithey found 3 bodies in his apartment

http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468
kirbyhttp://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468
little late

nigga, i ain't trynna go back a page. thank you based kirby.

[quote=tmoney][quote=hooli]they found 3 bodies in his apartment

http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468[/quote]

[quote=kirby]http://www.keyt.com/news/alleged-gunmans-apartment-now-a-crime-scene/26157468[/quote]

little late[/quote]

nigga, i ain't trynna go back a page. thank you based kirby.
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#99
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2Z0qhhgk4

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY2Z0qhhgk4[/youtube]
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#100
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Clearly a massive narcissist. So self centered that he didn't even realize that it was always his narcissism to blame for his sadness.

Can't believe someone so obviously sociopathic would make it 22 years but I guess thats why he was still a virgin; everyone instantly knew he was a fucking creeper.

Clearly a massive narcissist. So self centered that he didn't even realize that it was always his narcissism to blame for his sadness.

Can't believe someone so obviously sociopathic would make it 22 years but I guess thats why he was still a virgin; everyone instantly knew he was a fucking creeper.
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#101
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32hzhttp://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired-of-seeing-losers-with-hot-chicks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html

not everyone can be a 5"9' 135lb powerlifter

[quote=32hz]http://www.docdroid.net/ckku/im-tired-of-seeing-losers-with-hot-chicks-bodybuildingcom-forums-.pdf.html[/quote]

not everyone can be a 5"9' 135lb powerlifter
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#102
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Shitwizardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpJulVb_q4#t=762

its all fucking over

i've been red pilled

[quote=Shitwizard]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpJulVb_q4#t=762[/quote]

its all fucking over

i've been red pilled
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#103
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its weird i walk down that street almost every day and i pickup food from the places on the news that have caution tape on them, and i stream tf2 eating food from places this idiot shot up and i laugh reading justneckbeardthings on reddit and then some fuck rolls down the street shooting people and it all jumps from reddit to reality

its weird i walk down that street almost every day and i pickup food from the places on the news that have caution tape on them, and i stream tf2 eating food from places this idiot shot up and i laugh reading justneckbeardthings on reddit and then some fuck rolls down the street shooting people and it all jumps from reddit to reality
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#104
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HarbingerAre you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened because he had serious mental problems. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."

I think your question is an empirical one rather than a conjectural one. How many women have gone on mass murders because they were not receiving sexual attention from men? Give some fucking proof.

However this has happened before in much the same circumstances.

2009 Collier Township shooting

Moreover I hear this kind of male entitlement reasoning every day from young men who have little to no social skills complaining about how much women have wronged them by not having sex with them. Its ingrained into our culture.

[quote=Harbinger]Are you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened [i]because he had serious mental problems[/i]. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."[/quote]

I think your question is an empirical one rather than a conjectural one. How many women have gone on mass murders because they were not receiving sexual attention from men? Give some fucking proof.

However this has happened before in much the same circumstances.

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Collier_Township_shooting]2009 Collier Township shooting[/url]

Moreover I hear this kind of male entitlement reasoning every day from young men who have little to no social skills complaining about how much women have wronged them by not having sex with them. Its ingrained into our culture.
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#105
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7E_yKBN1YQ

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7E_yKBN1YQ[/youtube]
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#106
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Maxiits weird i walk down that street almost every day and i pickup food from the places on the news that have caution tape on them, and i stream tf2 eating food from places this idiot shot up and i laugh reading justneckbeardthings on reddit and then some fuck rolls down the street shooting people and it all jumps from reddit to reality

this guy was waaaay beyond the "lol le fedoramaster neckbeard" thing. here's an excerpt from his manifesto.

http://puu.sh/90gM6.png

he was all sorts of twisted. in epilogue of the manifesto #91 linked he claims that the world would be a better place without women because sex holds men back, and offers the solution of placing nearly all women in concentration camps and keeping a small number alive for reproductive purposes. then he admits that this entire dream of his is just because he's never had sex and he wants it.

so, like, i guess just don't worry about the fact that you laugh it up at the neckbeard jokes or whatever because there was a lot more wrong with this guy than the fact that he thoughts he was a "nice guy" and a "gentleman" and deserved sex for those reasons

[quote=Maxi]its weird i walk down that street almost every day and i pickup food from the places on the news that have caution tape on them, and i stream tf2 eating food from places this idiot shot up and i laugh reading justneckbeardthings on reddit and then some fuck rolls down the street shooting people and it all jumps from reddit to reality[/quote]

this guy was waaaay beyond the "lol le fedoramaster neckbeard" thing. here's an excerpt from his manifesto.

http://puu.sh/90gM6.png

he was all sorts of twisted. in epilogue of the manifesto #91 linked he claims that the world would be a better place without women because sex holds men back, and offers the solution of placing nearly all women in concentration camps and keeping a small number alive for reproductive purposes. then he admits that this entire dream of his is just because he's never had sex and he wants it.

so, like, i guess just don't worry about the fact that you laugh it up at the neckbeard jokes or whatever because there was a lot more wrong with this guy than the fact that he thoughts he was a "nice guy" and a "gentleman" and deserved sex for those reasons
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#107
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julesdoingworkThere are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.

yeah but how many millions are at the degree of mental illness as this guy?

[quote=julesdoingwork]
There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.[/quote]

yeah but how many millions are at the degree of mental illness as this guy?
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#108
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Apparently I should have gone on a killing spree 2 yeas ago....

Apparently I should have gone on a killing spree 2 yeas ago....
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#109
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So many shootings in America D:

So many shootings in America D:
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#110
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http://i4.minus.com/ihnyPT6ZP4eD0.JPG

[img]http://i4.minus.com/ihnyPT6ZP4eD0.JPG[/img]
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#111
huds.tf
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Hisokahttp://i4.minus.com/ihnyPT6ZP4eD0.JPG

Why do I feel like that's a joke post because the date is 4-20

[quote=Hisoka][img]http://i4.minus.com/ihnyPT6ZP4eD0.JPG[/img][/quote]

Why do I feel like that's a joke post because the date is 4-20
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#112
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MasterKuniAdmirableWhat lack of gun control does to you
U wot m8. This was in the heart of gun-grabbing-liberal-assault-weapon-ban-4-da-kidz California. Keep your skewed politics out of this.

Fucking ridiculous American logic :D

You think gun control is limiting some category of particularly effective killing machines.

Over here in sensible land we just impose heavy restrictions on all deadly weapons to the point where they aren't readily available for any random person who feels the urge to kill another human being.

[quote=MasterKuni][quote=Admirable]What lack of gun control does to you[/quote]

U wot m8. This was in the heart of gun-grabbing-liberal-assault-weapon-ban-4-da-kidz California. Keep your skewed politics out of this.[/quote]

Fucking ridiculous American logic :D

You think gun control is limiting some category of particularly effective killing machines.

Over here in sensible land we just impose heavy restrictions on all deadly weapons to the point where they aren't readily available for any random person who feels the urge to kill another human being.
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#113
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AdmirableMasterKuniAdmirableWhat lack of gun control does to you
U wot m8. This was in the heart of gun-grabbing-liberal-assault-weapon-ban-4-da-kidz California. Keep your skewed politics out of this.

Fucking ridiculous American logic :D

You think gun control is limiting some category of particularly effective killing machines.

Over here in sensible land we just impose heavy restrictions on all deadly weapons to the point where they aren't readily available for any random person who feels the urge to kill another human being.

???

banning weapons won't do anything they'll still get their hands on them (ex. drugs). the problem is how our country handles mental health issues and how that needs to be improved.

[quote=Admirable][quote=MasterKuni][quote=Admirable]What lack of gun control does to you[/quote]

U wot m8. This was in the heart of gun-grabbing-liberal-assault-weapon-ban-4-da-kidz California. Keep your skewed politics out of this.[/quote]

Fucking ridiculous American logic :D

You think gun control is limiting some category of particularly effective killing machines.

Over here in sensible land we just impose heavy restrictions on all deadly weapons to the point where they aren't readily available for any random person who feels the urge to kill another human being.[/quote]
???

banning weapons won't do anything they'll still get their hands on them (ex. drugs). the problem is how our country handles mental health issues and how that needs to be improved.
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#114
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YosephI think this guy is a little selfish. The stuff about anime making you a perma-virgin is true though.

say that to literally my entire family (kids excluded)

jake_Clearly a massive narcissist. So self centered that he didn't even realize that it was always his narcissism to blame for his sadness.

"you do it to yourself, you do, and that's what really hurts"

[quote=Yoseph]I think this guy is a little selfish. The stuff about anime making you a perma-virgin is true though.[/quote]
say that to literally my entire family (kids excluded)

[quote=jake_]Clearly a massive narcissist. So self centered that he didn't even realize that it was always his narcissism to blame for his sadness.[/quote]
"you do it to yourself, you do, and that's what really hurts"
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#115
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julesdoingworkHarbingerjulesdoingworkuh no, this is what male entitlement does to you
Are you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened because he had serious mental problems. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."

It goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon! He had serious mental problems, but if this weren't motivated by a misogynistic ideology (I'd recommend reading the epilogue of his manifesto if you don't believe me: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto) he would have shot the people around him. Did he do that? No. He deliberately went after women who allegedly turned him down.

There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.

I agree that misogyny is messed up, but I disagree that his misogynistic ideology contributed to his decision as much as his mental illness did. it's clear from his manifesto and videos he had posted online that he had a mental illness. it's abundantly clear he had an extremely warped world view that went beyond misogynistic thoughts - a view that included racism and a major superiority complex. if I had to guess, his woman-hating ideas manifested themselves through sexual frustration and disappointment with his lack of game - after all, he was perfect, why wouldn't women fall all over him?

there are millions of misogynistic assholes in the US that don't fucking murder women - because they aren't crazy enough to do so. his core problem was mental illness. the problems that followed - in this case, misogyny - came as a result. but this could have been anything.. he could have developed a hate for movie stars; what would you say if he killed his father and his coworkers? that the real problem is a disrespect of parents in the US?

[quote=julesdoingwork][quote=Harbinger][quote=julesdoingwork]uh no, this is what male entitlement does to you [/quote]


Are you seriously so fucked up that you think this is what all guys think? He could have been a woman and felt the same way towards men and this still would have happened [i]because he had serious mental problems[/i]. This clearly goes beyond "male entitlement," so shut the fuck up and stop trying to blame a drive-by mass murder on "being a man."[/quote]

It goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon! He had serious mental problems, but if this weren't motivated by a misogynistic ideology (I'd recommend reading the epilogue of his manifesto if you don't believe me: http://www.scribd.com/doc/225960813/Elliot-Rodger-Santa-Barbara-mass-shooting-suspect-My-Twisted-World-manifesto) he would have shot the people around him. Did he do that? No. He deliberately went after women who allegedly turned him down.

There are millions of mentally ill people in the US that don't fucking murder people that aren't interested in them romantically, so I refuse to believe you can chalk this up to solely mental illness. It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.[/quote]
I agree that misogyny is messed up, but I disagree that his misogynistic ideology contributed to his decision as much as his mental illness did. it's clear from his manifesto and videos he had posted online that he had a mental illness. it's abundantly clear he had an extremely warped world view that went beyond misogynistic thoughts - a view that included racism and a major superiority complex. if I had to guess, his woman-hating ideas manifested themselves through sexual frustration and disappointment with his lack of game - after all, he was [i]perfect[/i], why [i]wouldn't[/i] women fall all over him?

there are millions of misogynistic assholes in the US that don't fucking murder women - because they aren't crazy enough to do so. his core problem was mental illness. the problems that followed - in this case, misogyny - came as a result. but this could have been anything.. he could have developed a hate for movie stars; what would you say if he killed his father and his coworkers? that the real problem is a disrespect of parents in the US?
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#116
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julesdoingworkIt goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon!
It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.

That's why I left your quote about "no woman owed this guy sex" out. Obviously you're right about that and some people do think these that women owe them sex. One of the most annoying things about feminist views to me is the general thought that "Men are pigs who think women owe them sex." That's like saying "Black people love not working, doing drugs and shooting each other."

It's not right to say that about black people because it's not true. Similarly, tons of guys view women as equals (and many times as superiors ^_^) so don't lump us in with those guys who think that they are better than women.

tl;dr The feminist movement would probably gain a lot more traction if you would stop trying to crucify every male on the planet for being a misogynistic pig.

[quote=julesdoingwork]
It goes beyond male entitlement but you're blind to think ideas like "women owe men sex" are uncommon!
It was mental illness AND a misogynistic ideology that contributed to the deaths of innocent women.[/quote]

That's why I left your quote about "no woman owed this guy sex" out. Obviously you're right about that and some people [i]do think these that women owe them sex[/i]. One of the most annoying things about feminist views to me is the general thought that "Men are pigs who think women owe them sex." That's like saying "Black people love not working, doing drugs and shooting each other."

It's not right to say that about black people because it's not true. Similarly, tons of guys view women as equals (and many times as superiors ^_^) so don't lump us in with those guys who think that they are better than women.

tl;dr The feminist movement would probably gain a lot more traction if you would stop trying to crucify every male on the planet for being a misogynistic pig.
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#117
2 Frags +

<< im the perfect guy >>

sir plz

<< im the perfect guy >>

sir plz
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#118
-3 Frags +

All I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.

All I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.
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#119
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ExquisiteStoneAll I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.

but how microscopically small is your country compared to the united states? with the US's history of weapons, I just don't see how it's feasible to get rid of even half of them without turning it into a police state.

[quote=ExquisiteStone]All I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.[/quote]

but how [url=http://education.randmcnally.com/classroom/rmc/viewLargerMapImage.do?mapFileName=Netherlands_US_Size.png&imageTitle=Netherlands%20Size%20Comparison%20to%20United%20States&skillLevel=Adv&oid=1073906601]microscopically small[/url] is your country compared to the united states? with the US's history of weapons, I just don't see how it's feasible to get rid of even half of them without turning it into a police state.
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#120
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ExquisiteStoneAll I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.

If someone wants to kill people and they are motivated enough, it doesn't matter if we ban guns or not. That's not the only point defending gun ownership its just the most glaring fact because its a counter point. Everyone attacking gun ownership thinks 'less guns = less crime'. You have to think about all of the other reactions that banning them would do. Every other country that has banned guns has seen a drop in gun crime but a rise in other violent crimes.

If you're walking down the street with your bird and me and my 4 big niggas want to get a piece of that ass. It's all up to us. It's 5 v 1 and you have no force multiplier. We're going to fuck your girl and then fuck you and there's nothing you can do about it. We know that there's nothing you can do about it because guns have been banned. If you don't think shit like this happens read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Now imagine you were carrying a concealed firearm. That story might end differently. Guns do stop crime. Imagine if these guys didn't have their concealed firearms. http://5newsonline.com/2014/05/10/police-shooting-at-central-mall-in-fort-smith/ It would have been up to the crazy guy when he stopped shooting. These two guys decided not to be victims.

This shit didn't happen back in the day. We still had guns 30 years ago. Guns are the not the cause of these crimes, they are simply a tool used. I think it has the most to do with our culture and our ability to prescribe SSRI's like candy. Mind you, you don't need guns to fuck people up in a "peaceful" world. You can just pull some shit like the Unabomber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski

[quote=ExquisiteStone]All I see in this thread is Americans defending their gun law rights, and giving the statement "they can get their hands on guns anyway" So basically you're saying, If they want to do it, why don't we just make it a hell lot easier for them.

All these killing spree's are by white outcasts who are in highschool/college, Here where I live it's kinda really hard to your hands on those type of weaponry if you aren't involved in any sort of criminal group, or know those type of sketchy people.

I am not saying the reason there are more killing spree's in america like this than anywhere else in the world because america allows guns, but I really don't get if we as humans want to move forward into a "peaceful" world, why you'd need those guns, it just seems rather uncivilised.[/quote]

If someone wants to kill people and they are motivated enough, it doesn't matter if we ban guns or not. That's not the only point defending gun ownership its just the most glaring fact because its a counter point. Everyone attacking gun ownership thinks 'less guns = less crime'. You have to think about all of the other reactions that banning them would do. Every other country that has banned guns has seen a drop in gun crime but a rise in other violent crimes.

If you're walking down the street with your bird and me and my 4 big niggas want to get a piece of that ass. It's all up to us. It's 5 v 1 and you have no force multiplier. We're going to fuck your girl and then fuck you and there's nothing you can do about it. We know that there's nothing you can do about it because guns have been banned. If you don't think shit like this happens read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Channon_Christian_and_Christopher_Newsom

Now imagine you were carrying a concealed firearm. That story might end differently. Guns do stop crime. Imagine if these guys didn't have their concealed firearms. http://5newsonline.com/2014/05/10/police-shooting-at-central-mall-in-fort-smith/ It would have been up to the crazy guy when he stopped shooting. These two guys decided not to be victims.

This shit didn't happen back in the day. We still had guns 30 years ago. Guns are the not the cause of these crimes, they are simply a tool used. I think it has the most to do with our culture and our ability to prescribe SSRI's like candy. Mind you, you don't need guns to fuck people up in a "peaceful" world. You can just pull some shit like the Unabomber. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Kaczynski
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