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Substantial prize pool goes back to what I was mentioning about games being played mainly for fun, not profit. The whole LAN thing is the one thing ESEA def has a big advantage with, but in general FPS games are pretty dead at the moment and don't get many LAN's. There's no way a small league would be able to cover the costs realistically. I don't see why anti-cheat is required as it's mostly a waste of time for everyone involved, would rather just have suspicious players pointed out as it's pretty hard to completely conceal a wallhack/aimbot. Without a prize pool however people have no real reason to hack other than for giggles. The ads aren't a big deal, I just think it's hilarious that the STV is totally broken but are still willing to offer that 15% off gunnar optiks coupon in chat. Remember when stv was just a huge group of people spamming chat? Why do the admins need to be paid? I'm sure there's people willing to volunteer who actually care about the game in the first place. That being said if the league ended up succesful I don't see why they couldn't get paid, but in infancy obv it wouldn't be. A website with esea functionality would take a bit of time but really isn't anything that would take a titanic amount of work. Also I'm pretty sure the main reason people don't like ESEA is because of the fact it has never worked perfectly, or even up to par for what you're paying.

I mean really it's not that big of a deal to me personally as I've had a lot more fun in small community organized cups in bad games than I ever had competing in ESEA, but I can see why you'd think that ESEA is your best option atm.

Substantial prize pool goes back to what I was mentioning about games being played mainly for fun, not profit. The whole LAN thing is the one thing ESEA def has a big advantage with, but in general FPS games are pretty dead at the moment and don't get many LAN's. There's no way a small league would be able to cover the costs realistically. I don't see why anti-cheat is required as it's mostly a waste of time for everyone involved, would rather just have suspicious players pointed out as it's pretty hard to completely conceal a wallhack/aimbot. Without a prize pool however people have no real reason to hack other than for giggles. The ads aren't a big deal, I just think it's hilarious that the STV is totally broken but are still willing to offer that 15% off gunnar optiks coupon in chat. Remember when stv was just a huge group of people spamming chat? Why do the admins need to be paid? I'm sure there's people willing to volunteer who actually care about the game in the first place. That being said if the league ended up succesful I don't see why they couldn't get paid, but in infancy obv it wouldn't be. A website with esea functionality would take a bit of time but really isn't anything that would take a titanic amount of work. Also I'm pretty sure the main reason people don't like ESEA is because of the fact it has never worked perfectly, or even up to par for what you're paying.

I mean really it's not that big of a deal to me personally as I've had a lot more fun in small community organized cups in bad games than I ever had competing in ESEA, but I can see why you'd think that ESEA is your best option atm.
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#62
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there are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing

there are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing
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#63
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mebthere are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing

Yes but do any of them offer a decent prize pool and a lan?

[quote=meb]there are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing[/quote]
Yes but do any of them offer a decent prize pool and a lan?
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#64
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2sy_morphiend"once again hundreds are held hostage to a shitty league because of the lan dreams of 24"

we are the 99%?

[quote=2sy_morphiend]"once again hundreds are held hostage to a shitty league because of the lan dreams of 24"[/quote]
we are the 99%?
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#65
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Curious if it was Slin or Shooter who locked the thread.

Curious if it was Slin or Shooter who locked the thread.
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#66
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LazyPandamebthere are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growingYes but do any of them offer a decent prize pool and a lan?

Can we just put this to a rest forever now? For 99.5% of people who play tf2 even competitively, you will never go to LAN and you will never get money for playing this game. If these are your incentives for continuing to compete then I suggest you start grinding fighting games because even if you never get sponsored you can just money match people and see a profit if you're decent.

[quote=LazyPanda][quote=meb]there are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing[/quote]
Yes but do any of them offer a decent prize pool and a lan?[/quote]

Can we just put this to a rest forever now? For 99.5% of people who play tf2 even competitively, you will never go to LAN and you will never get money for playing this game. If these are your incentives for continuing to compete then I suggest you start grinding fighting games because even if you never get sponsored you can just money match people and see a profit if you're decent.
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#67
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set interp to .5 and it is smooth.

set interp to .5 and it is smooth.
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#68
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Please dont' tell me this thread is going to descend into another one of those "ESEA vs Leave ESEA" threads

Please dont' tell me this thread is going to descend into another one of those "ESEA vs Leave ESEA" threads
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#69
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mebthere are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing

The responsibility falls on the shoulders of all of the invite teams

the community will follow where ever the best teams decide to all play

[quote=meb]there are two 6v6 TF2 ladder leagues in the works and a new cevo season just starting up, so people do have choices but the responsibility falls on the shoulders of the community to participate if we want to keep these alternative leagues growing[/quote]
The responsibility falls on the shoulders of all of the invite teams

the community will follow where ever the best teams decide to all play
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