Discussion thread for Season 13 of RGL Div-1.
Congratulations to last season's respective winners, PEGMODE and tara resume!
You can view the previous discussion threads for Main here and for Advanced here.
Since Main and Advanced are combined, this is the new discussion thread.
Discussion thread for Season 13 of RGL Div-1.
Congratulations to last season's respective winners, PEGMODE and tara resume!
You can view the previous discussion threads for Main [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/63571/rgl-s13-main-happenings-discussion]here[/url] and for Advanced [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/63570/rgl-s13-advanced-happenings-discussion]here[/url].
Since Main and Advanced are combined, this is the new discussion thread.
Anyways, so fucking stupid they took this long to make the decision that so many main teams died for them to save Advanced only for them later to just combine the divs making their previous decisions moot and dead teams for no good reason.
Also, to note, how the fuck are league fees determined now especially when half of the div paid main fees and some teams paid advanced fees. And where's the communication from RGL?
Anyways, so fucking stupid they took this long to make the decision that so many main teams died for them to save Advanced only for them later to just combine the divs making their previous decisions moot and dead teams for no good reason.
Also, to note, how the fuck are league fees determined now especially when half of the div paid main fees and some teams paid advanced fees. And where's the communication from RGL?
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Although the decision was sudden and I'm sure there's going to be complaints on either side, Im sure the extra pool of teams to scrim and play against will make for a more interesting season. Never the less, Good luck and try to have fun.
Although the decision was sudden and I'm sure there's going to be complaints on either side, Im sure the extra pool of teams to scrim and play against will make for a more interesting season. Never the less, Good luck and try to have fun.
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I won't have a chance to win the division anymore (or more likely end up with a 2nd place im badge followed directly after by a 2nd place main badge- the DDD team was definitely getting first in main), which is disappointing, but I am otherwise glad there are more teams to play and better ones at that, for better practice.
I won't have a chance to win the division anymore (or more likely end up with a 2nd place im badge followed directly after by a 2nd place main badge- the DDD team was definitely getting first in main), which is disappointing, but I am otherwise glad there are more teams to play and better ones at that, for better practice.
imo the division feels too big this season. maybe they could split it into 2 divisions?
imo the division feels too big this season. maybe they could split it into 2 divisions?
Week 2 Power Rankings and Predictions by rmx
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siyoPlaying in Newcomer/Amateur this season? We're interested in compiling a frag video this season! We're going to attempt making a NC/AM S13 Frag video and with your help, we can make it happen!
DM me demos with ticks to any insane frags (airshots, etc.) and we'll be cooking real good. We NEED MORE CONTENT!
Div-1 - We are also doing IM/Div-1! Please DM me clips on discord siyo_. (or nightfaul on discord) and if we like it, we'll put it in our folder.
Thanks!!
MATCHES ONLY TOO BTW
[quote=siyo]Playing in Newcomer/Amateur this season? We're interested in compiling a frag video this season! We're going to attempt making a NC/AM S13 Frag video and with your help, we can make it happen!
DM me demos with ticks to any insane frags (airshots, etc.) and we'll be cooking real good. We NEED MORE CONTENT![/quote]
Div-1 - We are also doing IM/Div-1! [b]Please DM me clips on discord siyo_.[/b] (or [b]nightfaul on discord[/b]) and if we like it, we'll put it in our folder.
Thanks!!
[b]MATCHES ONLY TOO BTW[/b]
Week 3 Power Rankings and Predictions by rmx
Tier I - Favorites to win/make playoffs.
Tier II - Favorites for playoff contention.
Tier III - Bubble playoffs, mid table.
Tier IV - Borderline mid table, bottom.
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RhythmI won't have a chance to win the division anymore (or more likely end up with a 2nd place im badge followed directly after by a 2nd place main badge- the DDD team was definitely getting first in main), which is disappointing, but I am otherwise glad there are more teams to play and better ones at that, for better practice.
Sad Times
[quote=Rhythm]I won't have a chance to win the division anymore (or more likely end up with a 2nd place im badge followed directly after by a 2nd place main badge- the DDD team was definitely getting first in main), which is disappointing, but I am otherwise glad there are more teams to play and better ones at that, for better practice.[/quote]
Sad Times
aaaaa why are we playing a map that most ppl have little to no exp on that also has 0 recent invite vods to study!!!! let me play granary!
aaaaa why are we playing a map that most ppl have little to no exp on that also has 0 recent invite vods to study!!!! let me play granary!
genuine question, why do pick/ban divs play granary, metalworks, and viaduct, which arent in rotation, but DONT play villa or clearcut, which are?
genuine question, why do pick/ban divs play granary, metalworks, and viaduct, which arent in rotation, but DONT play villa or clearcut, which are?
saxophonecry about it
bro what do u think im DOING
[quote=saxophone]cry about it[/quote]
bro what do u think im DOING
brodygenuine question, why do pick/ban divs play granary, metalworks, and viaduct, which arent in rotation, but DONT play villa or clearcut, which are?
we’re the pros, and every lower div are the mice, which admins do experiments on
[quote=brody]genuine question, why do pick/ban divs play granary, metalworks, and viaduct, which arent in rotation, but DONT play villa or clearcut, which are?[/quote]
we’re the pros, and every lower div are the mice, which admins do experiments on
scratchhwe’re the pros, and every lower div are the mice, which admins do experiments on
you were once a part of us, invite changed you... this rgl traditional sixes shit aint no game
[quote=scratchh]we’re the pros, and every lower div are the mice, which admins do experiments on[/quote]
you were once a part of us, invite changed you... this rgl traditional sixes shit aint no game
scout Power Rankings by denisavich
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[quote=tacocat]scout Power Rankings by denisavich
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name one good canadian tf2 player. thats right you cant
tacocatscout Power Rankings by denisavich
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DO NOT EVER CALL ME HAN CHINESE I AM A 100% PURE-BLOODED MONGOLIAN WARRIOR, MY DAILY SCHEDULE TO BECOME A CHINGIS KHAN WARRIOR POCKET SCOUT IS AS FOLLOWS
2:48 AM : WAKE UP
2:50 AM : TAKE A SHIT
2:55 AM : GET OUT OF BED
3:00 AM: SING CHINGIS KHAANI MAGTAL FOR 6 HOURS
9:00 AM: PLOT THE ASSASSINATION OF XI JIN PING
5:00PM : PLAN THE ERADICATION OF ALL HAN CHINESE
REPEAT
[quote=tacocat]scout Power Rankings by denisavich
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DO NOT EVER CALL ME HAN CHINESE I AM A 100% PURE-BLOODED MONGOLIAN WARRIOR, MY DAILY SCHEDULE TO BECOME A CHINGIS KHAN WARRIOR POCKET SCOUT IS AS FOLLOWS
2:48 AM : WAKE UP
2:50 AM : TAKE A SHIT
2:55 AM : GET OUT OF BED
3:00 AM: [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_5yt5IX38I&ab_channel=BatzorigVaanchig]SING CHINGIS KHAANI MAGTAL FOR 6 HOURS [/url]
9:00 AM: PLOT THE ASSASSINATION OF XI JIN PING
5:00PM : PLAN THE ERADICATION OF ALL HAN CHINESE
REPEAT
[quote=tacocat]scout Power Rankings by denisavich
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im roman catholic tho, i got touched by my bishop and the whole 9 yards
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Any knowers as to why its mid day on monday and there are still 0 matches posted for any division, let alone div-1?
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I really tried to refrain from making a tftv post about this, because I honestly believe that rgl should be given a chance to fix their stuff before I have to complain on a public forum but RGL's handling of matches is actually just abysmal.
They claim that a plugin is used to make matches, and that only 1 person has access to the scheduler but this is clearly not working. You guys said this stuff would be better last season and it's worse than it was.
-The matches are clearly skewed and not done by a plugin
-Top teams faced top teams from the first week (a plugin that seeds based on win record wouldn't be able to perfectly predict that, there would be some variation because of lack of prior info)
-Playoff teams this week are facing other playoff teams in playoffs deciders on sultry despite the fact we all have teams we haven't played yet.
-None of the top teams have gotten a bye week, almost all are middle division teams.
-Matches come out Monday or Sunday after scrims (I deliberately get a pugscrim every Sunday because I don't know what team that week I'll face, I don't want to scrim them Sunday to find out they are my Tuesday match)
If you want to skew matches make the top seeded teams play each other at the end of the season because that gives all of them time to work on their stuff. That also act as playoff deciders that are real and not rematches forced through the system that can potentially fuck over certain teams.
This season there were 17 teams at season start in div1, that means every team objectively should face every other team, and whoever performs the best consistently over the season should be seeded higher. While this doesn't affect this season cuz the top 4 teams have 4 wins above the rest, it's still dumb and has affected teams in past seasons. Retirement realm definitely gets owned this week having to play topes, but it would also fuck us over if they played a 6-6 team, some of the 6-6 teams have byes and are placed higher than 6-6 teams that don't have byes. This whole scenario is always just extra dumb and really needs to be fixed. If one team gets a bye every team should and every team deserves to play vs all other available teams to level the playing field.
I really tried to refrain from making a tftv post about this, because I honestly believe that rgl should be given a chance to fix their stuff before I have to complain on a public forum but RGL's handling of matches is actually just abysmal.
They claim that a plugin is used to make matches, and that only 1 person has access to the scheduler but this is clearly not working. You guys said this stuff would be better last season and it's worse than it was.
-The matches are clearly skewed and not done by a plugin
-Top teams faced top teams from the first week (a plugin that seeds based on win record wouldn't be able to perfectly predict that, there would be some variation because of lack of prior info)
-Playoff teams this week are facing other playoff teams in playoffs deciders on sultry despite the fact we all have teams we haven't played yet.
-None of the top teams have gotten a bye week, almost all are middle division teams.
-Matches come out Monday or Sunday after scrims (I deliberately get a pugscrim every Sunday because I don't know what team that week I'll face, I don't want to scrim them Sunday to find out they are my Tuesday match)
If you want to skew matches make the top seeded teams play each other at the end of the season because that gives all of them time to work on their stuff. That also act as playoff deciders that are real and not rematches forced through the system that can potentially fuck over certain teams.
This season there were 17 teams at season start in div1, that means every team objectively should face every other team, and whoever performs the best consistently over the season should be seeded higher. While this doesn't affect this season cuz the top 4 teams have 4 wins above the rest, it's still dumb and has affected teams in past seasons. Retirement realm definitely gets owned this week having to play topes, but it would also fuck us over if they played a 6-6 team, some of the 6-6 teams have byes and are placed higher than 6-6 teams that don't have byes. This whole scenario is always just extra dumb and really needs to be fixed. If one team gets a bye every team should and every team deserves to play vs all other available teams to level the playing field.
CAP_CREATURE
the way byes are handled in winrate is a little dumb, and waiting until monday to get the schedule out is embarrassing, but i think a lot of the stuff ur talking abt doesnt rly matter
like who cares about whether theres a plugin or not. who cares when the top teams play eachother. why does it matter that youre getting rematched against teams with similar records? why do top teams deserve a bye week?
the only way a regular season can run remotely flawlessly is if its round robin. as long as we're starting with the assumption that every team will play 16 matches its always gonna have rough edges like this, and thats fine
[quote=CAP_CREATURE][/quote]
the way byes are handled in winrate is a little dumb, and waiting until monday to get the schedule out is embarrassing, but i think a lot of the stuff ur talking abt doesnt rly matter
like who cares about whether theres a plugin or not. who cares when the top teams play eachother. why does it matter that youre getting rematched against teams with similar records? why do top teams deserve a bye week?
the only way a regular season can run remotely flawlessly is if its round robin. as long as we're starting with the assumption that every team will play 16 matches its always gonna have rough edges like this, and thats fine
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brody
bro wrote an entire post (which you quoted) explaining specifically why stuff matters, these are not new issues and they often meaningfully affect higher ranked teams in a division, why post if you have literally nothing to add
[quote=brody][/quote]
bro wrote an entire post (which you quoted) explaining specifically why stuff matters, these are not new issues and they often meaningfully affect higher ranked teams in a division, why post if you have literally nothing to add
6 team playoffs or Whaaat bros
6 team playoffs or Whaaat bros
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