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TF2 massive input lag after reinstalling
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Hi. I need help with pinpointing the issue with my game right now, i used to have snappy and responsive mouse movement in my prev install of tf2 but now im stuck with so called sluggish mouse. I started off with -autoconfig and fresh low mastercomfig config install. I'm on 200ish fps on casual matches, I also checked if motion blur and vsync were off just to be sure, disabled gsync, fullscreen optimizations but nothing seems to work. I'd really love some feeback cause i feel like there's something i'm not yet aware or just forgot to check it.

Hi. I need help with pinpointing the issue with my game right now, i used to have snappy and responsive mouse movement in my prev install of tf2 but now im stuck with so called sluggish mouse. I started off with -autoconfig and fresh low mastercomfig config install. I'm on 200ish fps on casual matches, I also checked if motion blur and vsync were off just to be sure, disabled gsync, fullscreen optimizations but nothing seems to work. I'd really love some feeback cause i feel like there's something i'm not yet aware or just forgot to check it.
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Is all windows accel disabled?

Is all windows accel disabled?
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are you on default interp? Game might seem sluggish on high interp, make sure it's on 0.01

are you on default interp? Game might seem sluggish on high interp, make sure it's on 0.01
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_KermitIs all windows accel disabled?

yup, i also use raw input

alfaare you on default interp? Game might seem sluggish on high interp, make sure it's on 0.01

i have set up my interp already

[quote=_Kermit]Is all windows accel disabled?[/quote]
yup, i also use raw input

[quote=alfa]are you on default interp? Game might seem sluggish on high interp, make sure it's on 0.01[/quote]
i have set up my interp already
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Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.
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did you check that mouse smoothing option when you downloaded mastercomms? Idk how it might affect this but check if it helps

did you check that mouse smoothing option when you downloaded mastercomms? Idk how it might affect this but check if it helps
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AimIsADickDo you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms

[quote=AimIsADick]Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.[/quote]

its going about 3.4 to 7ms
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TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?

TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?
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zeloAimIsADickDo you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?

ratawarTF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?

Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.

[quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick]Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.[/quote]

its going about 3.4 to 7ms[/quote]

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?

[quote=ratawar]TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?[/quote]

Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.
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alfadid you check that mouse smoothing option when you downloaded mastercomms? Idk how it might affect this but check if it helps

You mean the flat mouse addon? That just sets mouse cvars so I highly doubt that is the issue.

[quote=alfa]did you check that mouse smoothing option when you downloaded mastercomms? Idk how it might affect this but check if it helps[/quote]

You mean the flat mouse addon? That just sets mouse cvars so I highly doubt that is the issue.
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AimIsADickzeloAimIsADickDo you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?
ratawarTF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?
Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick]Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.[/quote]

its going about 3.4 to 7ms[/quote]

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?

[quote=ratawar]TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?[/quote]

Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.[/quote]

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.
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Check if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf

Check if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf
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zeloAimIsADickzeloAimIsADickDo you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?
ratawarTF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?
Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.

Are you getting packet choke or loss? Do net_graph 4 in console the next time you play to check.

yahooCheck if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf

Do the former of this comment.

P.S Try using another mouse if you have ≥2 mouses.

[quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick][quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick]Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.[/quote]

its going about 3.4 to 7ms[/quote]

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?

[quote=ratawar]TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?[/quote]

Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.[/quote]

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.[/quote]

Are you getting packet choke or loss? Do net_graph 4 in console the next time you play to check.

[quote=yahoo]Check if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf[/quote]

Do the former of this comment.

P.S Try using another mouse if you have ≥2 mouses.
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AimIsADickzeloAimIsADickzeloAimIsADickDo you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp. Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.

I've been using 1k hz since i first set up my mouse.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?
ratawarTF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?
Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.

Are you getting packet choke or loss? Do net_graph 4 in console the next time you play to check.
yahooCheck if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf
Do the former of this comment.

P.S Try using another mouse if you have ≥2 mouses.

My mouse has always been on 1k hz. I'm using a custom plan for ryzen processors but it's not the issue because i've been using it before and it was fine. As for choke and loss i get none. I ran a cable with a reliable connection.

I don't know if it helps but it feels similar to turning on vsync or running borderless window instead of fullscreen.

Edit: Also i cleaned up TF2 and installed Comanglia's Toaster which i had been using before and the problem still occurs

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick][quote=zelo][quote=AimIsADick]Do you have a modules.cfg file? If not then mastercomfig low is just going to set that interp value back.

yup i do, although mastercomfig kinda throws me off, im too used to working with just cfg files. i tried my best to follow the guide tho. put my cfgs in user folder under cfg, modules.cfg into cfg folder and vpks to custom

[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/tf2/misconceptions/#bad-cvars]P.S I don't recommend setting 15.2ms interp.[/url] Not all servers can properly handle it (cough cough bad servers) and it's not worth it to desync the interpolation between you and the server, just for faster interpolation that is quite negligable.

Also: do cl_showfps 2 in console and look at the number value with the suffix "ms" (that's frametime). Tell me the average of that value.[/quote]

I've been using 1k hz since i first set up my mouse.

its going about 3.4 to 7ms[/quote]

That tells me the frames aren't the problem here. Check your hardware and troubleshoot it to ensure that your hardware isn't the problem.

Also what mastercomfig options are you using? Actually what is your gaming environment (like OS, options, mods, hardware, etc.) in general?

[quote=ratawar]TF2 process priority in task manager isn't set to anything wonky?[/quote]

Yeah don't set the process priority to low, high, or realtime; only use the below normal, normal, and above normal process priorities, but even then they barely make a difference to begin with.[/quote]

I'm sitting on r5 3600 with 2070 on 16 3200 ram and Win10. The cfg I used before (which was the snappiest i've ever come in TF2) was a heavily customized Comanglia Toaster but i heard it's outdated. As for mastercomfig i've chosen low preset with only changes being outlines on high and tweaked network settings to match my connection.[/quote]

Are you getting packet choke or loss? Do net_graph 4 in console the next time you play to check.

[quote=yahoo]Check if mouse is on 1k hz and set windows power plan to high perf[/quote]

Do the former of this comment.

P.S Try using another mouse if you have ≥2 mouses.[/quote]

My mouse has always been on 1k hz. I'm using a custom plan for ryzen processors but it's not the issue because i've been using it before and it was fine. As for choke and loss i get none. I ran a cable with a reliable connection.

I don't know if it helps but it feels similar to turning on vsync or running borderless window instead of fullscreen.

Edit: Also i cleaned up TF2 and installed Comanglia's Toaster which i had been using before and the problem still occurs
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Try mat_forcehardwaresync 0

Try mat_forcehardwaresync 0
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BeaVerNTry mat_forcehardwaresync 0

Yeah this does help, but visuals might become slightly less smooth. Its worth it though.

Can you post your mousegraph?
https://www.overclock.net/threads/mousetester-software-reloaded.1590569/
instructions on second post.
make sure no applications are opened when you record your mouse graph.

[quote=BeaVerN]Try mat_forcehardwaresync 0[/quote]
Yeah this does help, but visuals might become slightly less smooth. Its worth it though.

Can you post your mousegraph?
https://www.overclock.net/threads/mousetester-software-reloaded.1590569/
instructions on second post.
make sure no applications are opened when you record your mouse graph.
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