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AsiaFortress discriminating a player by false ban
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Hi,
I wanted to share my bad experience with Asian tf2 comp scene. If you are ever looking to play in Asiafortress' league, you should atleast reconsider it. Maybe even boycott AFC and not play there. I tried to join and play in a team but after joining the team on their league's website I am perma banned from there for totally unknown reasons because i have done some "harassing" outside of their discord even though i have never even interacted with their community outside of their discord.

The admins are discriminating and choosing who gets to play and who is not. All I had ever said in their discord is that they shouldn't ban null movement script from use when they brought up a discussion / poll about it to ask people's opinions. Now I am perma banned without a chance to appeal. The head admin (alias vytal) doesn't respond to any of my messages and just ignores everything. Only way I was able to get a word from him was when my Korean friend messaged vytal about my concern and me wanting to talk about my unreasonable ban. "vytal — 오늘 21:52
nope sorry its not appealable" was all my Korean friend got as an response.

My own conclusion is that vytal has an interest to block new out of region players from entering the scene because he plays in their league's top division in a team "Elysium" and wants to keep their title as the "#1" team. I understand that due to out-of-region players having higher ping, some people might not want to play with them but I think that is something to write into the rules and not make false accusations towards individual players + banning them without local players ever hearing about this.

Just wanted to bring this up to other people's attention because I think what was done wasn't right. A screenshot of my account on the website: https://imgur.com/a/z7RwSri

Hi,
I wanted to share my bad experience with Asian tf2 comp scene. If you are ever looking to play in Asiafortress' league, you should atleast reconsider it. Maybe even boycott AFC and not play there. I tried to join and play in a team but after joining the team on their league's website I am perma banned from there for totally unknown reasons because i have done some "harassing" outside of their discord even though i have never even interacted with their community outside of their discord.

The admins are discriminating and choosing who gets to play and who is not. All I had ever said in their discord is that they shouldn't ban null movement script from use when they brought up a discussion / poll about it to ask people's opinions. Now I am perma banned without a chance to appeal. The head admin (alias vytal) doesn't respond to any of my messages and just ignores everything. Only way I was able to get a word from him was when my Korean friend messaged vytal about my concern and me wanting to talk about my unreasonable ban. "vytal — 오늘 21:52
nope sorry its not appealable" was all my Korean friend got as an response.

My own conclusion is that vytal has an interest to block new out of region players from entering the scene because he plays in their league's top division in a team "Elysium" and wants to keep their title as the "#1" team. I understand that due to out-of-region players having higher ping, some people might not want to play with them but I think that is something to write into the rules and not make false accusations towards individual players + banning them without local players ever hearing about this.

Just wanted to bring this up to other people's attention because I think what was done wasn't right. A screenshot of my account on the website: https://imgur.com/a/z7RwSri
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#2
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re: banning null movement scripts

https://imgur.com/a/U5lW61Y

re: banning null movement scripts

[img]https://imgur.com/a/U5lW61Y[/img]
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#3
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hYm3nSl4yrre: banning null movement scripts

https://imgur.com/a/U5lW61Y

Thanks for getting this here which I was unable to do. Didn't entirely remember these chat logs. Might have had kinda a strong opinion for this at the time and looking back at it, slightly misunderstood the question while being a bit rude. However, I really don't see a reason for a perma ban from the entire league when a league admin is calling me brain damaged while laughing at other people in the same chat who agree with me and who bring other competent ideas to the table. Woozy handled this situation well though.

[quote=hYm3nSl4yr]re: banning null movement scripts

[img]https://imgur.com/a/U5lW61Y[/img][/quote]
Thanks for getting this here which I was unable to do. Didn't entirely remember these chat logs. Might have had kinda a strong opinion for this at the time and looking back at it, slightly misunderstood the question while being a bit rude. However, I really don't see a reason for a perma ban from the entire league when a league admin is calling me brain damaged while laughing at other people in the same chat who agree with me and who bring other competent ideas to the table. Woozy handled this situation well though.
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#4
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Anyhow, it remains unknown why I was perma banned and accused of harassing someone or something OUTSIDE of their discord. After leaving the discord server after this conversation I never talked to anyone in afc's community.

Anyhow, it remains unknown why I was perma banned and accused of harassing someone or something OUTSIDE of their discord. After leaving the discord server after this conversation I never talked to anyone in afc's community.
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#5
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can't believe elysium would do this

can't believe elysium would do this
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#6
22 Frags +

not to be mean, but why would you want to play in that dead ass league

not to be mean, but why would you want to play in that dead ass league
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#7
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1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.

1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.
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#8
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vytal1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.

Exactly what did he do that he received a perma ban for harrasement?

[quote=vytal]1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.[/quote]

Exactly what did he do that he received a perma ban for harrasement?
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#9
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vytal1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.

I don't know, to my knowledge I have never harassed anyone, not in AFC, not in Asia TF2, not in ETF2L and not in real life. And if I have hurt someone's ego or feelings one way or a another in your opinion, I would like to know your source and proof of this what have I done to receive a perma ban to your league? It's not appropriate to flag someone as a harasser without any proper reason whatsoever.

I also think it's not appropriate to keep calling me braindead and fucking stupid especially as a league admin. Also had to point this out as a side note because I found it pretty funny, why do you have an invite champion medal of every recent season in your steam inventory then if you have never played in your league?

[quote=vytal]1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.[/quote]

I don't know, to my knowledge I have never harassed anyone, not in AFC, not in Asia TF2, not in ETF2L and not in real life. And if I have hurt someone's ego or feelings one way or a another in your opinion, I would like to know your source and proof of this what have I done to receive a perma ban to your league? It's not appropriate to flag someone as a harasser without any proper reason whatsoever.

I also think it's not appropriate to keep calling me braindead and fucking stupid especially as a league admin. Also had to point this out as a side note because I found it pretty funny, why do you have an invite champion medal of every recent season in your steam inventory then if you have never played in your league?
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#10
14 Frags +

4. You are fucking stupid.

4. You are fucking stupid.
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#11
-15 Frags +

6’s and HL is fun, challenging and unique, yet across all regions we have no dev support. At the end of the day any issue with any league draws down to them not giving the comp scene the support it deserves. When I see threads like this that’s pretty much what I think, because I really wonder how much Valve underestimated what kind of q competitive player base we have and the struggles it has trying to support itself.

6’s and HL is fun, challenging and unique, yet across all regions we have no dev support. At the end of the day any issue with any league draws down to them not giving the comp scene the support it deserves. When I see threads like this that’s pretty much what I think, because I really wonder how much Valve underestimated what kind of q competitive player base we have and the struggles it has trying to support itself.
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#12
9 Frags +

4. You are fucking stupid.

4. You are fucking stupid.
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#13
10 Frags +
vytal1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.

Fucking hell just give the poor cunt a proper explanation and lets all move on.

[quote=vytal]1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.[/quote]

Fucking hell just give the poor cunt a proper explanation and lets all move on.
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#14
27 Frags +
vytal1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.

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[quote=vytal]1. You were banned for harassment outside of the discord, nothing you said in the discord was taken into account for the ban

2. If you bothered to check, Elysium disbanded and some of the players are on your team, we have also been encouraging out of regions players to play our league by having more lenient ping balancing.

3. I have never played nor am I even allowed to play in my league, everyone knows this.

4. You are fucking stupid.[/quote]
asiafortress operated by brit

close enough, welcome back east india company
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