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RGL and Metal footsteps ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮
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#31
38 Frags +

fascinating that you don't get banned for admitting to cheating as long as you're a member of the RGL old boys' club, thanks for the insight steph

fascinating that you don't get banned for admitting to cheating as long as you're a member of the RGL old boys' club, thanks for the insight steph
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#32
27 Frags +
stephlol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.

The fact that I share any opinion with you makes me physically fucking recoil, alongside the need for me to rethink my entire world view for having any opinion that coincides with yours. Not to mention I also hate you LOL ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮.

Now onto something really stupid I saw, preempting it before it hits the thread.
https://imgur.com/a/Kq1TfRL

Now nothing that is said here, is wrong, in any normal mastercom config it doesn't have surface properties, Never was it once said that any mastercomfig preset will give you surface properties, CLEANTF2+ DOES which is on the site without a warning of it being bannable.
https://imgur.com/a/WOIvRHu ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮
"Makes TF2 a lot cleaner and simpler, includes NoHats" <- from the site ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮
https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/customization/see_also/

don't go flood mastercoms to change it I don't doubt its already being done.

didn't make the thread to have people go after exa or mastcoms don't do that.

[quote=steph]lol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.[/quote]

The fact that I share any opinion with you makes me physically fucking recoil, alongside the need for me to rethink my entire world view for having any opinion that coincides with yours. Not to mention I also hate you LOL ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮.

Now onto something really stupid I saw, preempting it before it hits the thread.
[url=https://imgur.com/a/Kq1TfRL]https://imgur.com/a/Kq1TfRL[/url]

Now nothing that is said here, is wrong, in any normal mastercom config it doesn't have surface properties, Never was it once said that any mastercomfig preset will give you surface properties, CLEANTF2+ DOES which is on the site without a warning of it being bannable.
[url=https://imgur.com/a/WOIvRHu]https://imgur.com/a/WOIvRHu[/url] ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮
"Makes TF2 a lot cleaner and simpler, includes NoHats" <- from the site ( ° ͜ʖ͡°)╭∩╮
[url=https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/customization/see_also/]https://docs.mastercomfig.com/en/latest/customization/see_also/[/url]

don't go flood mastercoms to change it I don't doubt its already being done.

didn't make the thread to have people go after exa or mastcoms don't do that.
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#33
12 Frags +
stephlol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.

I guess you could say RGL is “aids”

[quote=steph]lol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.[/quote]


I guess you could say RGL is “aids”
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#34
Process/Gullywash Refresh
7 Frags +

i Was spinbotting in Officials During my Period as Etf2L anti Cheat (true)

i Was spinbotting in Officials During my Period as Etf2L anti Cheat (true)
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#35
25 Frags +
stephlol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.

another reason you are not an admin

[quote=steph]lol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.[/quote]
another reason you are not an admin
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#36
-41 Frags +

Wait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS

Wait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS
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#37
39 Frags +
Young_SanityvWait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS

did you read the thread fam

[quote=Young_Sanityv]Wait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS[/quote]
did you read the thread fam
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#38
25 Frags +
Young_SanityvWait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS

stay in school young man

[quote=Young_Sanityv]Wait YOU CAN GET BANNED FOR LISTENING TO FOOTSTEPS[/quote]
stay in school young man
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#39
41 Frags +
stephlol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.

I really wish you would exercise some self control in the future before you post about RGL on tftv - when you drop public drama bombs with little to no context and you present it as "insider" information, the handful of people who are in charge of fixing this mess have to stop what they're doing to assess whether they need to respond, think about what they have to say, and then write something up for the public. Proportionally, it burns up a ridiculous amount of time, and I don't know why you would want to intentionally piss off more people by saying shit like this anyway.

I definitely remember you fighting to get metal footsteps unbanned when I was a div admin (and no, you were not ignored, you were impossible to ignore), but you're also leaving out the fact that they gave you a pass at the time because they gave everybody a pass. You were not given special treatment. We all knew that many people didn't catch that metal footstep usage wasn't allowed, several players were told to turn it off, and at least in HL, team leaders were informed to tell their players that metal footsteps were bannable and that enforcement was going to start soon. This same thing happened with the rollout of the demo check system when enforcement for that picked up recently too.
While I think a one-time info campaign leaves a lot of people out, I know the current RGL admins acknowledge the lingering problem of players not understanding the complicated rulebook, and that's an issue that hasn't been solved yet.

Does RGL fuck up a lot? Yep. Does RGL have some explaining to do when they determine what happens next? Of course. Do RGL players have a right to debate over whether or not metal footsteps should be banned at all? Absolutely. But I genuinely don't know how you thought that typing that would add value to this conversation in any way.

[quote=steph]lol i used metal footsteps when i was an rgl anticheat admin, fought to get it changed, was ignored, never got banned.

this is dumb and wholly unenforceable. do better, rgl.[/quote]
I really wish you would exercise some self control in the future before you post about RGL on tftv - when you drop public drama bombs with little to no context and you present it as "insider" information, the handful of people who are in charge of fixing this mess have to stop what they're doing to assess whether they need to respond, think about what they have to say, and then write something up for the public. Proportionally, it burns up a ridiculous amount of time, and I don't know why you would want to intentionally piss off more people by saying shit like this anyway.

I definitely remember you fighting to get metal footsteps unbanned when I was a div admin (and no, you were not ignored, you were impossible to ignore), but you're also leaving out the fact that they gave you a pass at the time because they gave [i]everybody[/i] a pass. You were not given special treatment. We all knew that many people didn't catch that metal footstep usage wasn't allowed, several players were told to turn it off, and at least in HL, team leaders were informed to tell their players that metal footsteps were bannable and that enforcement was going to start soon. This same thing happened with the rollout of the demo check system when enforcement for that picked up recently too.
While I think a one-time info campaign leaves a lot of people out, I know the current RGL admins acknowledge the lingering problem of players not understanding the complicated rulebook, and that's an issue that hasn't been solved yet.

Does RGL fuck up a lot? Yep. Does RGL have some explaining to do when they determine what happens next? Of course. Do RGL players have a right to debate over whether or not metal footsteps should be banned at all? Absolutely. But I genuinely don't know how you thought that typing that would add value to this conversation in any way.
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#40
44 Frags +

I don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.

I don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.
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#41
-64 Frags +
JarateKingI don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.

Great job! Only after someone got permabanned.

[quote=JarateKing]I don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.[/quote]
Great job! Only after someone got permabanned.
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#42
3 Frags +
mintyxdJarateKingI don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.
Great job! Only after someone got permabanned.

this is exactly what I don't want people doing minty good lord. anyway, ugc removed jas's ban I hope the other two realize this shit is dumb.

[quote=mintyxd][quote=JarateKing]I don't regularly check tftv all too often nowadays but I did patch cleantf2+ so that it doesn't provide the option to use metal footsteps.

Someone tech savvy could still easily modify it to add metal footsteps again, or just modify the file after it's generated, or copy it from someone else, etc. but anyone downloading cleantf2+ from now on will not accidentally get it.[/quote]
Great job! Only after someone got permabanned.[/quote]

this is exactly what I don't want people doing minty good lord. anyway, ugc removed jas's ban I hope the other two realize this shit is dumb.
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#43
1 Frags +
Catalystugc removed jas's ban I hope the other two realize this shit is dumb.

To my understanding the RGL ban is a mirror ban from ETF2L, and I've seen some chatlogs with quintosh where he claims that Jas is lying about not knowing that metal footsteps were bannable.

This is despite the fact that Jas was streaming his games, which is the only way that you can catch metal footsteps. Also that he removed metal footsteps before being contacted by ETF2L in any way, as his teammates told him that it was against the rules.

I know from speaking to one of the past head AC admins that they didn't want to make a big deal out of exploits like this because its completely undetectable and can be applied to other things. You could make spy decloaks or medics getting full ubercharge have the mvm tank explosion noise.

[quote=Catalyst]ugc removed jas's ban I hope the other two realize this shit is dumb.[/quote]
To my understanding the RGL ban is a mirror ban from ETF2L, and I've seen some chatlogs with quintosh where he claims that Jas is lying about not knowing that metal footsteps were bannable.

This is despite the fact that Jas was streaming his games, which is the only way that you can catch metal footsteps. Also that he removed metal footsteps before being contacted by ETF2L in any way, as his teammates told him that it was against the rules.

I know from speaking to one of the past head AC admins that they didn't want to make a big deal out of exploits like this because its completely undetectable and can be applied to other things. You could make spy decloaks or medics getting full ubercharge have the mvm tank explosion noise.
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#44
-4 Frags +

lol hl hax

lol hl hax
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