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8000Hz in Tf2
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Hey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?

Hey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?
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A high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.

edit: https://streamable.com/al0fmn
what causes this kind of lag, i don't know, all i know is its a weird problem that some people have.

A high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.

edit: https://streamable.com/al0fmn
what causes this kind of lag, i don't know, all i know is its a weird problem that some people have.
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kbtoHey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?

I currently use the Razer Viper Mini and I haven't encountered any issues with the high polling rate. If it does fuck you over for some reason, you can always lower the polling rate in Razer Synapse.

EDIT:

elektroA high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.

Wait really? I must have never noticed. What's exactly the problem with 8k polling rate in TF2 tho? For reference my polling rate is at 500. Also btw Razer Viper's polling rate can be adjusted, but only with fixed values.

[quote=kbto]Hey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?[/quote]

I currently use the Razer Viper Mini and I haven't encountered any issues with the high polling rate. If it does fuck you over for some reason, you can always lower the polling rate in Razer Synapse.

EDIT:

[quote=elektro]A high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.[/quote]

Wait really? I must have never noticed. What's exactly the problem with 8k polling rate in TF2 tho? For reference my polling rate is at 500. Also btw Razer Viper's polling rate can be adjusted, but only with fixed values.
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id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test

id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test
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tommyid give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test

It's literally just how often it sends information to the computer per second.
I don't exactly know how this causes issues for games, because all evidence is just anecdotal. googling "high mouse polling rate lag" or something will show results of people saying "I have 8khz polling rate and I'm fine" meanwhile other people get long lag spikes on web pages with 1-2000hz. Generally from what I've read an experienced 500-1000 seems to be fine for 99.99% of pc builds.

[quote=tommy]id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test[/quote]
It's literally just how often it sends information to the computer per second.
I don't exactly know how this causes issues for games, because all evidence is just anecdotal. googling "high mouse polling rate lag" or something will show results of people saying "I have 8khz polling rate and I'm fine" meanwhile other people get long lag spikes on web pages with 1-2000hz. Generally from what I've read an experienced 500-1000 seems to be fine for 99.99% of pc builds.
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AimIsADickFor reference my polling rate is at 500AimIsADickissues with the high polling rate
[quote=AimIsADick]For reference my polling rate is at 500[/quote]


[quote=AimIsADick]issues with the high polling rate[/quote]
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I'm using a Razer Viper 8K. 8k polling rate works fine with tf2 if your cpu is strong enough. For me, sometimes when chrome and tidal are running simultaneously, the mouse lags in-game @8Khz. Though I never encountered lag @4Khz, I've set it to 2Khz just to be safe. fyi, I have a r5 3600 @4.55GHz.

I'm using a Razer Viper 8K. 8k polling rate works fine with tf2 if your cpu is strong enough. For me, sometimes when chrome and tidal are running simultaneously, the mouse lags in-game @8Khz. Though I never encountered lag @4Khz, I've set it to 2Khz just to be safe. fyi, I have a r5 3600 @4.55GHz.
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tommyid give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test

it actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings

[quote=tommy]id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test[/quote]


it actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings
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HoppsI'm using a Razer Viper 8K. 8k polling rate works fine with tf2 if your cpu is strong enough. For me, sometimes when chrome and tidal are running simultaneously, the mouse lags in-game @8Khz. Though I never encountered lag @4Khz, I've set it to 2Khz just to be safe. fyi, I have a r5 3600 @4.55GHz.

I see im basically going to be getting a 5800x + 360hz monitor and the razer viper 8k all at the same time I would imagen the cpu would be able to handle it but if not i can turn down the hz of the mouse ty everyone for help

[quote=Hopps]I'm using a Razer Viper 8K. 8k polling rate works fine with tf2 if your cpu is strong enough. For me, sometimes when chrome and tidal are running simultaneously, the mouse lags in-game @8Khz. Though I never encountered lag @4Khz, I've set it to 2Khz just to be safe. fyi, I have a r5 3600 @4.55GHz.[/quote]
I see im basically going to be getting a 5800x + 360hz monitor and the razer viper 8k all at the same time I would imagen the cpu would be able to handle it but if not i can turn down the hz of the mouse ty everyone for help
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funhaver1998tommyid give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test
it actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings

yes definately, i used the intellimouse 3.0 for a really long time locked at 125hz and switching to 500hz was noticeable, and 500 to 1000z was also really noticeable for me higher mouse polling honestly kind of feels like game fps is higher sometimes.

[quote=funhaver1998][quote=tommy]id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test[/quote]


it actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings[/quote]

yes definately, i used the intellimouse 3.0 for a really long time locked at 125hz and switching to 500hz was noticeable, and 500 to 1000z was also really noticeable for me higher mouse polling honestly kind of feels like game fps is higher sometimes.
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1k hz isnf inherently better than 500 tho in terms of fps i used to find 1k hard to track with

1k hz isnf inherently better than 500 tho in terms of fps i used to find 1k hard to track with
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AimIsADickkbtoHey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?
I currently use the Razer Viper Mini and I haven't encountered any issues with the high polling rate. If it does fuck you over for some reason, you can always lower the polling rate in Razer Synapse.

EDIT:
elektroA high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.
Wait really? I must have never noticed. What's exactly the problem with 8k polling rate in TF2 tho? For reference my polling rate is at 500. Also btw Razer Viper's polling rate can be adjusted, but only with fixed values.

Razer viper mini and razer viper 8k are two completely different mice, its called 8k because of the 8000hz polling rate which this thread is asking about

[quote=AimIsADick][quote=kbto]Hey guys, been looking at the Razer Viper 8K, and apparently in certain games 8khz polling rate fucks with the game engine and you see choppyness of movement and stuff, does anyone have this mouse can anyone tell me if these issues exist within tf2?[/quote]

I currently use the Razer Viper Mini and I haven't encountered any issues with the high polling rate. If it does fuck you over for some reason, you can always lower the polling rate in Razer Synapse.

EDIT:

[quote=elektro]A high polling rate does have a very bad effect on tf2. You should look for a mice with adjustable polling rate (such as the Razer Viper 8k) polling rate should be less than 2k for optimal experience. I will edit with a video example when I get home in ~3 hours what the differences are.[/quote]

Wait really? I must have never noticed. What's exactly the problem with 8k polling rate in TF2 tho? For reference my polling rate is at 500. Also btw Razer Viper's polling rate can be adjusted, but only with fixed values.[/quote]

Razer viper mini and razer viper 8k are two completely different mice, its called 8k because of the 8000hz polling rate which this thread is asking about
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been running the 8k for a while, without issues. however I got a pretty beefy system.

been running the 8k for a while, without issues. however I got a pretty beefy system.
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funhaver1998tommyid give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind testit actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings

if you make a video of you doing a blind trial to test this, I will send you $ 20

[quote=funhaver1998][quote=tommy]id give 20 bucks to anyone who can tell the difference between 500hz and 1000hz in a blind test[/quote]
it actually has a huge difference in both of my zowie mice. when using 500hz it has a more glidey feel which i used to like. also a huge difference with messing around with the LOD settings[/quote]

if you make a video of you doing a blind trial to test this, I will send you $ 20
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