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#121
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watch a stream for 2 hours and you get added to a queue for the next wave of invites

watch a stream for 2 hours and you get added to a queue for the next wave of invites
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#122
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Brimstonesageso the chinese rootkit is real? what a shame
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/g2zu1c/why_valorants_vanguard_anticheat_has_to_be/

https://secret.club/2020/04/17/kernel-anticheats.html
this actually kind of convinced me that the anticheat isn't a big deal. Makes the argument that just about any malicious activity that is possible at the kernel level is also possible at the user level and the blog has a large quantity of case studies involving game hacking

[quote=Brimstone][quote=sage]so the chinese rootkit is real? what a shame[/quote]

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/g2zu1c/why_valorants_vanguard_anticheat_has_to_be/[/quote]

https://secret.club/2020/04/17/kernel-anticheats.html
this actually kind of convinced me that the anticheat isn't a big deal. Makes the argument that just about any malicious activity that is possible at the kernel level is also possible at the user level and the blog has a large quantity of case studies involving game hacking
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#123
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dishsoapgdhandNo, you get good Raze is S tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg56HIcPVuA

Will probably get nerfed because CS players hate when you break their autistic timings.Satchels are not a worse Jett jump lmao, for one Jett movement is way more linear. No one's really explored Raze setups aside from this guy so far, being able to entry frag like that is insane.
yeah no this isnt convincing. sure these setups are cool and all but in reality most of these clips hes getting lucky that the victim of his antics doesnt instantly shred him.

this looks like one of those cs youtuber frag videos where they bhop around in mm and get stupid headshots bc luck or they had a small fov aimbot or some shit. ultimately its impractical at best, and hard feeding at worst.

especially with raze's nerf its really easy to see how underwhelming her kit is when u know what she does. i havent seen any raze grenade or rocket getting really stupid kills in a few days now.

raze is high C low B tier.

Being able to break timings isn't impractical, as a huge part of CS is predicting enemy movements. If you're going to call Raze underwhelming, then almost every duelist is aside from that 1 time where they can flash/smoke. Raze's niche is probably going to be her ability to push past angles fast, and be unpredictable, the setup at mid at 2:10 is a good example of this, nobody is going to expect you to do that unless they've already seen you do it.

Also her ult is unquestionably a good ult, arguing that it isn't because you play vs retard razes who use it while they are 100 miles away which allows you 1000000 seconds to juke her isn't a good argument. It's like saying mcree/pharah ult in OW sucks under the same criteria. (Terrible players telegraphing their intentions to ult)

[quote=dishsoap][quote=gdhand]No, you get good Raze is S tier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dg56HIcPVuA

Will probably get nerfed because CS players hate when you break their autistic timings.Satchels are not a worse Jett jump lmao, for one Jett movement is way more linear. No one's really explored Raze setups aside from this guy so far, being able to entry frag like that is insane.[/quote]
yeah no this isnt convincing. sure these setups are cool and all but in reality most of these clips hes getting lucky that the victim of his antics doesnt instantly shred him.

this looks like one of those cs youtuber frag videos where they bhop around in mm and get stupid headshots bc luck or they had a small fov aimbot or some shit. ultimately its impractical at best, and hard feeding at worst.

especially with raze's nerf its really easy to see how underwhelming her kit is when u know what she does. i havent seen any raze grenade or rocket getting really stupid kills in a few days now.

raze is high C low B tier.[/quote]

Being able to break timings isn't impractical, as a huge part of CS is predicting enemy movements. If you're going to call Raze underwhelming, then almost every duelist is aside from that 1 time where they can flash/smoke. Raze's niche is probably going to be her ability to push past angles fast, and be unpredictable, the setup at mid at 2:10 is a good example of this, nobody is going to expect you to do that unless they've already seen you do it.

Also her ult is unquestionably a good ult, arguing that it isn't because you play vs retard razes who use it while they are 100 miles away which allows you 1000000 seconds to juke her isn't a good argument. It's like saying mcree/pharah ult in OW sucks under the same criteria. (Terrible players telegraphing their intentions to ult)
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#124
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#125
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3 semi long points and no tldr wtf am i doing

a) raze doesnt "break" timings whatever that means, she merely just has a slightly faster timing with her satchel boosts. this is something you have to deal with in cs too bc spawns can dictate rush timings heavily and people are able to counter this through good counter utility and being prepared earlier. hell, you dont even always see runboosts bc they work infrequently. back to raze though, ultimately this is no different from a jett dash as they'll be on about the same timing so in reality if you can read a jett's timing, you can definitely read raze. ppl at higher levels will be able to read either of their peeks since they are both delayed when fast peeking for a slight bit (raze bc midair, jett bc dash has delay unless she's ulting).

b) i personally believe all the duelists are a bit underwhelming, pheonix is the best one by far though since his ult is stupid strong (much better than raze's and especially jett's) and has much better tools for isolating 1v1s and removing multiple sightlines with his molly, firewall, and two flashes. raze can force people out of angles, and jett can isolate/block them off briefly, but neither can do both while pheonix can and more. pheonix embodies a duelist completely, while jett and raze are missing pieces (honestly for a duelist raze works suprisingly well in more of a 2nd entry role where she is looked at less)
ps: underwhelming =/= bad, just that i feel that they could do more
pps: also raze is worse on defense and require support from another teammate while pheonix will be mostly fine solo holding areas (i havent played enuff jett but i think she can stall out pushes long enuff for rotates to come in with her smokes, also she can do some crazy awping if she has her dash)

c) yes her ult is good, but i still think its underwhelming and even at the top level dying to her ult is less of a "omg shes stupid why can she do that" and more of a "i cant believe i got caught by that what a bad position i was in/why didnt i reposition upon seeing her and knowing she has ult" (honestly her ult is like a stronger version of her nade as in its much better at forcing someone out of position rather than outright killing, but it is still a great entry tool if raze decides to become a suicide bomber and most likely get traded)

this is my last nerd essay on this subject. raze isnt good and you cant change my mind.

(there are some fun sticky jumps u can do tho and they are funny when they do work)

3 semi long points and no tldr wtf am i doing

a) raze doesnt "break" timings whatever that means, she merely just has a slightly faster timing with her satchel boosts. this is something you have to deal with in cs too bc spawns can dictate rush timings heavily and people are able to counter this through good counter utility and being prepared earlier. hell, you dont even always see runboosts bc they work infrequently. back to raze though, ultimately this is no different from a jett dash as they'll be on about the same timing so in reality if you can read a jett's timing, you can definitely read raze. ppl at higher levels will be able to read either of their peeks since they are both delayed when fast peeking for a slight bit (raze bc midair, jett bc dash has delay unless she's ulting).

b) i personally believe all the duelists are a bit underwhelming, pheonix is the best one by far though since his ult is stupid strong (much better than raze's and especially jett's) and has much better tools for isolating 1v1s and removing multiple sightlines with his molly, firewall, and two flashes. raze can force people out of angles, and jett can isolate/block them off briefly, but neither can do both while pheonix can and more. pheonix embodies a duelist completely, while jett and raze are missing pieces (honestly for a duelist raze works suprisingly well in more of a 2nd entry role where she is looked at less)
ps: underwhelming =/= bad, just that i feel that they could do more
pps: also raze is worse on defense and require support from another teammate while pheonix will be mostly fine solo holding areas (i havent played enuff jett but i think she can stall out pushes long enuff for rotates to come in with her smokes, also she can do some crazy awping if she has her dash)

c) yes her ult is good, but i still think its underwhelming and even at the top level dying to her ult is less of a "omg shes stupid why can she do that" and more of a "i cant believe i got caught by that what a bad position i was in/why didnt i reposition upon seeing her and knowing she has ult" (honestly her ult is like a stronger version of her nade as in its much better at forcing someone out of position rather than outright killing, but it is still a great entry tool if raze decides to become a suicide bomber and most likely get traded)

this is my last nerd essay on this subject. raze isnt good and you cant change my mind.

(there are some fun sticky jumps u can do tho and they are funny when they do work)
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#126
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703533473725677625/706662680458559538/mobile_ui.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703533473725677625/706662680458559538/mobile_ui.png
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#127
7 Frags +

boring game

boring game
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#128
newbie.tf
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Is there a tf valorant group/discord like there's been for other games? Just now starting and I wouldn't mind playing with some familiar aliases first few games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Is there a tf valorant group/discord like there's been for other games? Just now starting and I wouldn't mind playing with some familiar aliases first few games ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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#129
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I just made one kevin; https://discord.gg/7yHS6tm

lmk if you want mod

I just made one kevin; https://discord.gg/7yHS6tm

lmk if you want mod
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#130
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I know hooli just posted about this, but are people still playing? would love to setup some 10 mans or something

I know hooli just posted about this, but are people still playing? would love to setup some 10 mans or something
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#131
Stream Highlights
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DylanI know hooli just posted about this, but are people still playing? would love to setup some 10 mans or something

I'm down :)

[quote=Dylan]I know hooli just posted about this, but are people still playing? would love to setup some 10 mans or something[/quote] I'm down :)
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#132
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whats the consensus on this game? i have no idea what people actually think about it lol. Was the "we understand what real fps players want" stuff a marketing gimmick or does the game actually have awesome hitreg? are the abilities annoying and stupid or are they actually interesting?

whats the consensus on this game? i have no idea what people actually think about it lol. Was the "we understand what real fps players want" stuff a marketing gimmick or does the game actually have awesome hitreg? are the abilities annoying and stupid or are they actually interesting?
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#133
9 Frags +

i played a bunch of it for a while and all it did was revive my love of csgo

i played a bunch of it for a while and all it did was revive my love of csgo
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#134
4 Frags +

yeah playing valorant just makes me wanna play cs

yeah playing valorant just makes me wanna play cs
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#135
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I played 300 hours of cs and I've played like 200 games of valorant. The gun gameplay is nearly identical, with each respective game having its small differences, but if you played csgo, your gun skills will transfer quite easily (at least in my experience). I remember in csgo I climbed to MG2 (slightly above average at the time) just by gun skills, I never learned how to use grenades properly tbh. I always found the specific smoke throws very difficult to learn. However, in valorant, at least in my opinion, the abilities are really easy to learn, and no agent is super hard to learn (maybe excluding reyna). I will say, at first the abilities are kinda overwhelming to learn since there are a lot, and it feels like sometimes you might die to some dumb shit, but once you start learning what each and every agent does, you'll learn quickly how to not die to stupid shit constantly, and how to penalize your enemies. This game wants me to play csgo, but I kinda know in the back of my head that valve will never care, and it will be filled with hackers in mm, where Riot has put a pretty good anticheat system in afaik. My only complaint is the a. amount of squeakers bc its f2p, and b. the amount of time it took me to start climbing out of low elo was way too long, I would get Match MVP like 6 games in a row but still lose bc of bad teammates (but like this happens in every game tbh), but they just put a patch through to help rank distribution. Nevertheless, I think the game is pretty fun, and I think Riot is a way better company than Valve will ever be at video games. Riot is definitely new to first person shooters, so they're going to have to learn and improve, but they've done a pretty good job with league so far.

edit: sorry for bad grammar I'm lazy

I played 300 hours of cs and I've played like 200 games of valorant. The gun gameplay is nearly identical, with each respective game having its small differences, but if you played csgo, your gun skills will transfer quite easily (at least in my experience). I remember in csgo I climbed to MG2 (slightly above average at the time) just by gun skills, I never learned how to use grenades properly tbh. I always found the specific smoke throws very difficult to learn. However, in valorant, at least in my opinion, the abilities are really easy to learn, and no agent is super hard to learn (maybe excluding reyna). I will say, at first the abilities are kinda overwhelming to learn since there are a lot, and it feels like sometimes you might die to some dumb shit, but once you start learning what each and every agent does, you'll learn quickly how to not die to stupid shit constantly, and how to penalize your enemies. This game wants me to play csgo, but I kinda know in the back of my head that valve will never care, and it will be filled with hackers in mm, where Riot has put a pretty good anticheat system in afaik. My only complaint is the a. amount of squeakers bc its f2p, and b. the amount of time it took me to start climbing out of low elo was way too long, I would get Match MVP like 6 games in a row but still lose bc of bad teammates (but like this happens in every game tbh), but they just put a patch through to help rank distribution. Nevertheless, I think the game is pretty fun, and I think Riot is a way better company than Valve will ever be at video games. Riot is definitely new to first person shooters, so they're going to have to learn and improve, but they've done a pretty good job with league so far.

edit: sorry for bad grammar I'm lazy
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#136
ozfortress
1 Frags +

i feel like it's not a bad game but just isn't as good as cs and doesn't do anything better than cs does, so i have no real reason to play it over cs

i feel like it's not a bad game but just isn't as good as cs and doesn't do anything better than cs does, so i have no real reason to play it over cs
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#137
2 Frags +

if i ever got into fps games properly again, id play valorant over cs purely bc of reyna&jett since theyre a lot more fun than anything cs provides

if i ever got into fps games properly again, id play valorant over cs purely bc of reyna&jett since theyre a lot more fun than anything cs provides
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