Because people don't play pyro except on last.

i wouldn't be able to be a faggot on pyro if i didn't have a degreaser

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lmao what am I even reading

that's a really weird question, why is it NOT banned, I don't care and I don't want it banned but why isn't it?

Because the stock options are pretty bad.

my rank is a level 85 paladin btw

I don't have a problem with the degreaser, but if something is really broken or op about it, no one has done anything to abuse it to the point where it's unfair.

Stock deals more damage

Because more damage = better, right? That's why the Machina is the best sniper. /s

The degreaser only further enables the things that make pyro incredibly strong. The +65% switch speed allows for flare shots and axtinguisher hits to be more reliably executed.
The stock flamethrower does the same area denial and reflects of the degreaser.

The reason it isn't banned is as simple as when pyro is used: last defenses. The area denial and reflects are more important in that instance than the crit-switch items. For that, it's identical to the stock.

I should learn to think

Just playing devil's advocate here, but if it's so broken, why isn't it used and abused more often? The only time I ever consider it incredibly annoying is gullywash last, and even then it's still beatable.

Natascha heavy was stupid shit, and you pretty much only saw it while defending last and gravelpit C. People abused the fuck out of that until it got banned.

dh should be banned

every time i see somebody complaining about pyro they forget a few key things

1. only good at 1v1
2. no map control
3. only really good in close quarters/against really bad people

the idea that a degreaser pyro somehow has fulltime viability in 6v6 over a soldier/scout is moronic

In uber vs uber situations those crits don't matter, but it's a reliable clean-up tool if the attackers fumble. There aren't very many opportunities for a pyro to get those crit-switch kills unless the last push completely flops. Like I said, it does deny the push decently; Which the stock does well, too. If the pyro ends up with the uber, it's strength as a 1v1 class is completely nullified in the exchange. It's abusable strength comes up in flanks and punishing extension. So it's most viable use is denying the uber push until it's dead or useless (most the team is in and swarming around the combo).

Natascha on Gravelpit C is a different scenario than a pyro in badlands last, or gullywash last. Gravelpit requires that you climb the tower or explosive jump to it. It denies the jump perfectly every time by both redirecting and slowing the jumper. (That strat might need to be looked at again because of the natascha's nerf recently.) Pyro can deny C with some efficiency, but it has to wait until the jumper is within airblast range, which is within range for a solid 75-90 juggle. You're not gonna see a pyro blocking the point for more than a few seconds before it's destroyed or pushed away by explosive damage. Ubers are also used to get through the chokes on gravelpit, which is a good distance from the point itself. Since the pyros real shortcoming is it's utter lack of long range damage that doesn't move as slow as a snail it's not effective on those points.

i'm pretty sure most of the annoying things about pyro come from the class itself not the degreaser

is that youmustmike making a thread?

Yeah, let's ban one of the weapons that helps make the pyro not useless.

i like how 2 arguments against so far have been "it would stop me from being a faggot"

Well pyro is flaming

Pyro is useful with the degreaser?

With the other argument being "Because it wouldn't matter if you banned it"

What? So being able to switch to your axtinguisher quicker and deal typically quick and easy crits isn't useful for the class when compared to stock or backburner?

Let's bring the s6 badlands middle pyro from closet strat back.
(except with backburner)

because a class being situationally overpowered is not the same as a class being overpowered

it's like saying "ban stickies, they are op in the situation where I walk in a straight line through a choke non-ubered that the demo is staring at"

In my opinion, the degreaser isn't banned because nobody fucking cares. Thanks for taking the time to consider my opinion.

I was a former rank 2 (scout player) and champion of the Open Division of E-Sports Entertainment. I hope these credentials are acceptable enough for me to provide my opinion and for you to consider them. Thank you again.

it honestly doesn't make that much of a difference as some people think

i don't see why it should be banned at all.

The Machina is arguably the best sniper rifle though.