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Philosophical Question About Whitelists/Blacklists
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#301
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maxc232nopewhat the absolute fuck is this

why are moronic pubbers asking for quick fix unbans

why are you talking about trump

b4nny said he wanted to test these weapons:
quick fix
dalokhas
solemn vow
pomson
soda popper

he said it on stream so thats probably why everyone keeps bringing those weps up.

why would anyone consider testing the pomson if you just look at its stats you'll clearly understand why nobody likes it

[quote=maxc232][quote=nope]what the absolute fuck is this

why are moronic pubbers asking for quick fix unbans

why are you talking about trump[/quote]

b4nny said he wanted to test these weapons:
quick fix
dalokhas
solemn vow
pomson
soda popper


he said it on stream so thats probably why everyone keeps bringing those weps up.[/quote]

why would anyone consider testing the pomson if you just look at its stats you'll clearly understand why nobody likes it
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#302
14 Frags +

soda popper unban what the fuck

soda popper unban what the fuck
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#303
-13 Frags +

i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better

i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better
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#304
27 Frags +

Atomizer is broken to shit because it gives you 3 jumps, but the soda popper that gives you 5 is fine?

Atomizer is broken to shit because it gives you 3 jumps, but the soda popper that gives you 5 is fine?
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#305
5 Frags +
maxc232i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better

You don't need to sac the engie if he can just spam from a weird angle

[quote=maxc232]i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better[/quote]
You don't need to sac the engie if he can just spam from a weird angle
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#306
6 Frags +

Last post before locking

Last post before locking
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#307
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Vulcanmaxc232i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be betterYou don't need to sac the engie if he can just spam from a weird angle

lol well then at least they arent using the rescue ranger.

[quote=Vulcan][quote=maxc232]i mean who cares if a team wants to sac an engie to delete 10 percent uber, thats a legitimate strat. Soda popper would be dumb but I still think stock would be better[/quote]
You don't need to sac the engie if he can just spam from a weird angle[/quote]

lol well then at least they arent using the rescue ranger.
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#308
8 Frags +

This discussion got really out of hand, I guess we will just see how the lords of tf2 want to fuck with scrims next season.

The changes that need to be made are obvious, pray we get to see a future free of atomizer and other assorted bullshit.

This discussion got really out of hand, I guess we will just see how the lords of tf2 want to fuck with scrims next season.

The changes that need to be made are obvious, pray we get to see a future free of atomizer and other assorted bullshit.
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#309
-6 Frags +
nopewhat the absolute fuck is this

why are moronic pubbers asking for quick fix unbans

why are you talking about trump

I asked about the possibility of a Quick-Fix unban. If you read what I posted, I said pretty clearly that I wasn't clamoring for it. 4812622 responded strongly with some good points. I haven't said anything about it since. Also, if a person is a "moronic pubber," wouldn't you expect that person to have certain views which you consider utterly untenable? Why would you be surprised by that?

Some fellow used Trump's election as a metaphor. Rocketslay and I responded.

jennydeathTINSFVAmerica is a republic, not a democracyDerailing this thread to point out that republics can be democracies because what makes a republic a republic is that it is ruled by elected individuals

Democracy is a form of government in which the laws, policies, and so on are decided by majority rule. A republic is the form in which representatives are chosen by the people to carry out government.

True, we do have minor democratic elements in our structure (referendums are the most prominent example). Nonetheless, America is and was meant to be a republic. I quote the following Founders:

Samuel Adams, " . . . it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather a tireless minority keen to set brush fires in peoples' minds."
Zephenniah Swift, "It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion."
John Quincy Adams, "The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy is the most unstable, fluctuating, and short-lived."

The words 'democracy' and 'democratic' are not to be found in either the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution.

Anyways...I don't watch b4nny's stream, so this is the first I heard about those other weapons he suggested for unbanning. Really surprised by the pomson being among them. Did he go into any depth on that?

[quote=nope]what the absolute fuck is this

why are moronic pubbers asking for quick fix unbans

why are you talking about trump[/quote]

I asked about the possibility of a Quick-Fix unban. If you read what I posted, I said pretty clearly that I wasn't clamoring for it. 4812622 responded strongly with some good points. I haven't said anything about it since. Also, if a person is a "moronic pubber," wouldn't you expect that person to have certain views which you consider utterly untenable? Why would you be surprised by that?

Some fellow used Trump's election as a metaphor. Rocketslay and I responded.

[quote=jennydeath][quote=TINSFV]
America is a republic, not a democracy[/quote]
Derailing this thread to point out that republics can be democracies because what makes a republic a republic is that it is ruled by elected individuals[/quote]

Democracy is a form of government in which the laws, policies, and so on are decided by majority rule. A republic is the form in which representatives are chosen by the people to carry out government.

True, we do have minor democratic elements in our structure (referendums are the most prominent example). Nonetheless, America is and was meant to be a republic. I quote the following Founders:

Samuel Adams, " . . . it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather a tireless minority keen to set brush fires in peoples' minds."
Zephenniah Swift, "It may generally be remarked that the more a government resembles a pure democracy the more they abound with disorder and confusion."
John Quincy Adams, "The experience of all former ages had shown that of all human governments, democracy is the most unstable, fluctuating, and short-lived."

The words 'democracy' and 'democratic' are not to be found in either the Declaration of Independence nor the Constitution.

Anyways...I don't watch b4nny's stream, so this is the first I heard about those other weapons he suggested for unbanning. Really surprised by the pomson being among them. Did he go into any depth on that?
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#310
25 Frags +

why the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage

why the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage
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#311
9 Frags +

I know this thread has already gone way off topic but can we not have a political discussion in the "tf2 general discussion" section

I know this thread has already gone way off topic but can we not have a political discussion in the "tf2 general discussion" section
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#312
-3 Frags +
Viperwhy the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.

[quote=Viper]why the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage[/quote]

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.
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#313
8 Frags +
Viperplease lock this garbage
[quote=Viper]please lock this garbage[/quote]
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#314
-6 Frags +
HiipFireViperplease lock this garbage
[quote=HiipFire][quote=Viper]please lock this garbage[/quote][/quote]
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#315
7 Frags +
TINSFVViperwhy the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.

If someones off topic, it doesn't matter if there correct or not, don't reply. You'll just derail the thread further.

[quote=TINSFV][quote=Viper]why the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage[/quote]

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.[/quote]

If someones off topic, it doesn't matter if there correct or not, don't reply. You'll just derail the thread further.
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#316
1 Frags +

theres so many pages i dont even want to begin to understand what this thread is about NotLikeThis

theres so many pages i dont even want to begin to understand what this thread is about NotLikeThis
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#317
-3 Frags +
EasyETINSFVViperwhy the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.

If someones off topic, it doesn't matter if there correct or not, don't reply. You'll just derail the thread further.

So it seems. I'll bear this in mind.

TINSFVAnyways...I don't watch b4nny's stream, so this is the first I heard about those other weapons he suggested for unbanning. Really surprised by the pomson being among them. Did he go into any depth on that?

My query still stands.

[quote=EasyE][quote=TINSFV][quote=Viper]why the fuck are you giving a lecture on democracy in a whitelist/blacklist thread

please lock this garbage[/quote]

I should think it pretty obvious; I was responding to a couple of people.

I also asked a question pertaining to this whitelist business.[/quote]

If someones off topic, it doesn't matter if there correct or not, don't reply. You'll just derail the thread further.[/quote]

So it seems. I'll bear this in mind.

[quote=TINSFV]
Anyways...I don't watch b4nny's stream, so this is the first I heard about those other weapons he suggested for unbanning. Really surprised by the pomson being among them. Did he go into any depth on that?[/quote]
My query still stands.
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#318
9 Frags +

@TINSFV shut fuck up

@TINSFV shut fuck up
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#319
16 Frags +

Did slin make this thread lock proof or something?

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THANK FUCK

Did slin make this thread lock proof or something?

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THANK FUCK
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#320
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mana retired
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