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Will a Mouse Make Me Good
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I'm not gonna ask for advice on which mouse to buy, there are a million of those threads out there. I'm asking if the mouse really makes a difference in your aim.

I'm using the M305 right now and it's a cheap little thing with no M4, but that's cool. I also don't use a mousepad, as I travel too much to carry all that crap with me. I normally just use the mouse on a wood desk or a flat board if I'm on a couch.

To what extent does your mouse improve your aim? Is it worth paying top dollar, or should I just work on my aim like a normal person?

I'm not gonna ask for advice on which mouse to buy, there are a million of those threads out there. I'm asking if the mouse really makes a difference in your aim.

I'm using the M305 right now and it's a cheap little thing with no M4, but that's cool. I also don't use a mousepad, as I travel too much to carry all that crap with me. I normally just use the mouse on a wood desk or a flat board if I'm on a couch.

To what extent does your mouse improve your aim? Is it worth paying top dollar, or should I just work on my aim like a normal person?
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Honestly, no. If you like the feel of your current mouse in your hand and your mouse feet aren't destroyed, then getting a new mouse shouldn't be top on your list. Gaming mice may have better sensors, but I only bought one because of how it fits my hand much nicer than a cheap microsoft one. They usually have better mouse feet too.

A mousepad might help though; you'd be surprised.

Also please think about getting a wired mouse.

Honestly, no. If you like the feel of your current mouse in your hand and your mouse feet aren't destroyed, then getting a new mouse shouldn't be top on your list. Gaming mice may have better sensors, but I only bought one because of how it fits my hand much nicer than a cheap microsoft one. They usually have better mouse feet too.

A mousepad might help though; you'd be surprised.

Also please think about getting a wired mouse.
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upgrading to an actual wired gaming mouse from that will make a difference, yes

upgrading to an actual wired gaming mouse from that will make a difference, yes
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A player is only as good as they are comfortable. As many people will tell you, consistency is the key to great aim, which is why I'm trash (new sensitivity every week stay tuned).

So to answer your question: maybe. A new mouse can make you better. So can a new mousepad, a new keyboard, chair, desk, house, puppy, etc. The important thing is that whatever hardware you pick, you like. 5600 DPI doesn't matter, but maybe having 5 side buttons will, so pay attention to physical attributes.

A player is only as good as they are comfortable. As many people will tell you, [b]consistency[/b] is the key to great aim, which is why I'm trash (new sensitivity every week stay tuned).

So to answer your question: maybe. A new mouse [i]can[/i] make you better. So can a new mousepad, a new keyboard, chair, desk, house, puppy, etc. The important thing is that whatever hardware you pick, you like. 5600 DPI doesn't matter, but maybe having 5 side buttons will, so pay attention to physical attributes.
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Think about it like this; a good mouse can't make you good, but a bad mouse can make things harder than they need to be. Also, playing on wood surfaces has always seemed way less consistent than using a mousepad when it comes to tracking.

Think about it like this; a good mouse can't make you good, but a bad mouse can make things harder than they need to be. Also, playing on wood surfaces has always seemed way less consistent than using a mousepad when it comes to tracking.
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it made a difference for me, after upgrading from a WMO to the razer abyssus i felt a great improvement in my aim.

it made a difference for me, after upgrading from a WMO to the razer abyssus i felt a great improvement in my aim.
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Nah don't use a mouse, it's just a crutch.

Nah don't use a mouse, it's just a crutch.
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As long as you aren't using a trackpad right now, wouldn't be a huge difference, methinks.

As long as you aren't using a trackpad right now, wouldn't be a huge difference, methinks.
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getting a mousepad, or a better mouse will not make you better, but without a mousepad, or with a shitty mouse, things could be harder

getting a mousepad, or a better mouse will not make you better, but without a mousepad, or with a shitty mouse, things could be harder
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Honestly the M305 isn't that bad of a mouse, especially if you like small mice. Moving up to a mouse that has a "perfect" sensor almost doubles the size of your mouse, so take that into consideration. The only reason I see that might make you want to switch is if you really need more than 3 buttons on your mouse. Otherwise, just keep using your current mouse.

I would, however, recommend getting a constant surface that you play on, be it a mouse pad or whatever. Having a surface that you know how it feels when you move your mouse across it can be a big deal when needing to move your mouse precisely.

Honestly the M305 isn't that bad of a mouse, especially if you like small mice. Moving up to a mouse that has a "perfect" sensor almost doubles the size of your mouse, so take that into consideration. The only reason I see that might make you want to switch is if you really need more than 3 buttons on your mouse. Otherwise, just keep using your current mouse.

I would, however, recommend getting a constant surface that you play on, be it a mouse pad or whatever. Having a surface that you know how it feels when you move your mouse across it can be a big deal when needing to move your mouse precisely.
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The main thing to take away from all this is that a new mouse won't necessarily make you better, but having a good, reliable one will reduce the barriers to improving. For example, if you play at a high inches per 360, but have a mouse that negatively accelerates easily, then you're going to have a tough time improving your aim at targets that are further away from the center of your screen.

If you get a reliable mouse set up, then you can't use it as an excuse for why you missed this shot or that, and you can more easily evaluate what human and habitual errors interfere with your performance.

For my birthday earlier this month, I bought myself a DeathAdder because it has a reliable sensor (at 1800 DPI) and caters to the grip I like to use. It felt more natural and comfortable than my previous Diamondback 3G, and thus I became much less conscious about how my hand moved and felt during gameplay. I didn't necessarily get better by using it, but I saw that my rate of improvement had increased a bit.

So, yeah, think about getting something reliable. It doesn't have to be some ridiculous thing like the R.A.T 131284521, even a $30 G400 is exceptional. In the world of mice, top dollar does not mean top performance. Also, wired is infinitely preferred.

As far as a mousepad, you're probably going to want to use one because 1.) It'll do your mousefeet a favor and 2.) Consistency is key to getting better.

The main thing to take away from all this is that a new mouse won't necessarily make you better, but having a good, reliable one will reduce the barriers to improving. For example, if you play at a high inches per 360, but have a mouse that negatively accelerates easily, then you're going to have a tough time improving your aim at targets that are further away from the center of your screen.

If you get a reliable mouse set up, then you can't use it as an excuse for why you missed this shot or that, and you can more easily evaluate what human and habitual errors interfere with your performance.

For my birthday earlier this month, I bought myself a DeathAdder because it has a reliable sensor (at 1800 DPI) and caters to the grip I like to use. It felt more natural and comfortable than my previous Diamondback 3G, and thus I became much less conscious about how my hand moved and felt during gameplay. I didn't necessarily get better by using it, but I saw that my rate of improvement had increased a bit.

So, yeah, think about getting something reliable. It doesn't have to be some ridiculous thing like the R.A.T 131284521, even a $30 G400 is exceptional. In the world of mice, top dollar does not mean top performance. Also, wired is infinitely preferred.

As far as a mousepad, you're probably going to want to use one because 1.) It'll do your mousefeet a favor and 2.) Consistency is key to getting better.
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your AIM is all on you, but the mouse you use does have an effect on your play. If your mouse has a lousy sensor, it can throw off your tracking which in turn will effect aim. A mouse will not "make you better", but it will let you play your best. You don't need some super expensive mouse, just something with a good sensor and maybe some side buttons (they come in handy).

your AIM is all on you, but the mouse you use does have an effect on your play. If your mouse has a lousy sensor, it can throw off your tracking which in turn will effect aim. A mouse will not "make you better", but it will let you play your best. You don't need some super expensive mouse, just something with a good sensor and maybe some side buttons (they come in handy).
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It will HELP you get better but it wont make you good. Get a g400 our a Zowie AM.
The mouse you have now is terrible. Highly flawed sensor with wireless imput lag.

consistency is the key to great aim,

Which is why having a bad mouse affects your aim. Flawed sensors are inconsistent. Input lag also ads another unwanted factor to your aim.

It will HELP you get better but it wont make you good. Get a g400 our a Zowie AM.
The mouse you have now is terrible. Highly flawed sensor with wireless imput lag.


[quote][b]consistency[/b] is the key to great aim,[/quote]
Which is why having a bad mouse affects your aim. Flawed sensors are inconsistent. Input lag also ads another unwanted factor to your aim.
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The general consensus here is that a good mouse doesn't make you better, but a bad mouse can make you worse.
I agree with this to an extent.

It's not worth paying crazy amount for a super high-end mouse. But at the same time, if you're totally serious about it, be prepared to spend about $60 for something both comfortable and reliable.

I personally use the Razer DeathAdder. Goes for about $70 and I'm in love with it. I noticed a large but steady improvement to my game, when I got it to replace my crappy $15 Logitech mouse.

The general consensus here is that a good mouse doesn't make you better, but a bad mouse can make you worse.
I agree with this to an extent.

It's not worth paying crazy amount for a super high-end mouse. But at the same time, if you're totally serious about it, be prepared to spend about $60 for something both comfortable and reliable.

I personally use the Razer DeathAdder. Goes for about $70 and I'm in love with it. I noticed a large but steady improvement to my game, when I got it to replace my crappy $15 Logitech mouse.
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find something comfortable. I didn't have a great time with a g5/mx518 but the deathadder was better for me.

If the mx1000 was more readily available I would have stuck with that :D

find something comfortable. I didn't have a great time with a g5/mx518 but the deathadder was better for me.

If the mx1000 was more readily available I would have stuck with that :D
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yes

yes
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d_byes

Thanks, this is what I was looking for.

[quote=d_b]yes[/quote]
Thanks, this is what I was looking for.
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buy a wmo for cheap. enjoy.

buy a wmo for cheap. enjoy.
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It won't necessarily make you good, but it will definitely make you better.

When I was thinking about getting a gaming mouse, it always annoyed me that people didn't post examples/experiences of how the mouse helped them.

When I got my mouse, I was around the stage in TF2 where I could at least play most classes at a pretty good level (3500 hours). I got a deathadder from a friend and after the initial getting-used-to-it period, I'd have to say it definitely helped me improve. Aiming felt smoother and hitscans were easier to use with the deathadder than my old common dell mouse. The biggest change I saw was in my sniping. I used to be awful at it, but now I'm good enough to at least play it in a decent pug without getting yelled at.

Plus, it's more comfortable and it has 2 extra buttons that I can bind stupid stuff to.

Basically, if you're willing to spend some money, you should get one. At the very least, it will help you improve faster. I definitely think what people say about not being able to use a normal mouse after using a gaming mouse is true.

It won't necessarily make you good, but it will definitely make you better.

When I was thinking about getting a gaming mouse, it always annoyed me that people didn't post examples/experiences of how the mouse helped them.

When I got my mouse, I was around the stage in TF2 where I could at least play most classes at a pretty good level (3500 hours). I got a deathadder from a friend and after the initial getting-used-to-it period, I'd have to say it definitely helped me improve. Aiming felt smoother and hitscans were easier to use with the deathadder than my old common dell mouse. The biggest change I saw was in my sniping. I used to be awful at it, but now I'm good enough to at least play it in a decent pug without getting yelled at.

Plus, it's more comfortable and it has 2 extra buttons that I can bind stupid stuff to.

Basically, if you're willing to spend some money, you should get one. At the very least, it will help you improve faster. I definitely think what people say about not being able to use a normal mouse after using a gaming mouse is true.
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it definitely makes a difference

playing with bad equipment is kind of like training with weights on or something you can be good but it just makes it harder, without the benefit of weights where it makes you better when the weights come off

its most noticeable if you get used to playing on a good setup then switch to a bad one, when I went to ETS I only brought my laptop to make it simpler for moving and borrowed a 60hz monitor, between those changes and the different ergonomic setup it felt like complete shit compared to playing at home and made it way harder

it definitely makes a difference

playing with bad equipment is kind of like training with weights on or something you can be good but it just makes it harder, without the benefit of weights where it makes you better when the weights come off

its most noticeable if you get used to playing on a good setup then switch to a bad one, when I went to ETS I only brought my laptop to make it simpler for moving and borrowed a 60hz monitor, between those changes and the different ergonomic setup it felt like complete shit compared to playing at home and made it way harder
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buy a touch screen monitor.

buy a touch screen monitor.
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The situation is the same as any hardware deficit that produces poor FPS. You can try to work around it but solving the problem eliminates the tedious task in the first place.

The situation is the same as any hardware deficit that produces poor FPS. You can try to work around it but solving the problem eliminates the tedious task in the first place.
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bl4nkbuy a wmo for cheap. enjoy.

This is no longer valid as new WMO now cost more then modern flawless mice. Microsoft stopped making them years ago move on already.

You can get a g400 on newegg for 23$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104816

[quote=bl4nk]buy a wmo for cheap. enjoy.[/quote]
This is no longer valid as new WMO now cost more then modern flawless mice. Microsoft stopped making them years ago move on already.

You can get a g400 on newegg for 23$ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826104816
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