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#1
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I have been doing some scrims with my team and I'm always ending up with under 100DPM.
I play scout and I'm asking on some ways I can can improve.
Ik there's mge and dm servers but are there anyways and If I could get an explanation on how dm servers actually help.
Thank for your time and I hope you can help me :)
BTW I play scout

I have been doing some scrims with my team and I'm always ending up with under 100DPM.
I play scout and I'm asking on some ways I can can improve.
Ik there's mge and dm servers but are there anyways and If I could get an explanation on how dm servers actually help.
Thank for your time and I hope you can help me :)
BTW I play scout
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#2
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Dm servers help because you are constantly fighting which means more chances to shoot other gamers

Dm servers help because you are constantly fighting which means more chances to shoot other gamers
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#3
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dm servers help because you shoot people and when you get better at shooting people you can get better at shooting people???

not that hard, what the hell

dm servers help because you shoot people and when you get better at shooting people you can get better at shooting people???

not that hard, what the hell
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#4
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Dm simulates a somewhat more realistic scenario of fighting as a team

Dm simulates a somewhat more realistic scenario of fighting as a team
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#5
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DM and MGE help you learn some basic movement patterns that other players use so playing scout v soldier and scout v demo to a lesser extent will help you learn their hit boxes and movement patterns and speed. Although the best practice is still scrims because even though scout is more aim dependent he still relies heavily upon positioning and timing. Usually when any member of a team has relatively low damage it is because they are dying too often. So you also want to learn to pick better fights and play off of your team mates damage.

DM and MGE help you learn some basic movement patterns that other players use so playing scout v soldier and scout v demo to a lesser extent will help you learn their hit boxes and movement patterns and speed. Although the best practice is still scrims because even though scout is more aim dependent he still relies heavily upon positioning and timing. Usually when any member of a team has relatively low damage it is because they are dying too often. So you also want to learn to pick better fights and play off of your team mates damage.
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#6
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im sorry but all of you are wrong*, dm is not a good place to point a new player in a situation like this.

good dm is just as much about confidence as it is about practice. going negative and getting shot in the back constantly for hours in dm is going to not only turn him off competitive but the practice hes going to get is going to be minimal at best.

start off by playing mge with people your level or a bit higher and play different classes and maps but mainly scout and badlands mid. play pugs and scrims and just a whole lot of scout in general. find a comfortable sensitivity and stick with it, dont keep changing your setup or config.

its kinda strange how every thread like this people who dont have good dm or ever had good dm post "play dm" "practice" "play the game".

add me on steam i think i could help you out on your scout nixstarax.

*i agree with your post loljk

im sorry but all of you are wrong*, dm is not a good place to point a new player in a situation like this.

good dm is just as much about confidence as it is about practice. going negative and getting shot in the back constantly for hours in dm is going to not only turn him off competitive but the practice hes going to get is going to be minimal at best.

start off by playing mge with people your level or a bit higher and play different classes and maps but mainly scout and badlands mid. play pugs and scrims and just a whole lot of scout in general. find a comfortable sensitivity and stick with it, dont keep changing your setup or config.

its kinda strange how every thread like this people who dont have good dm or ever had good dm post "play dm" "practice" "play the game".

add me on steam i think i could help you out on your scout nixstarax.

*i agree with your post loljk
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#7
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I'd focus on keeping deaths to a minimum, while not baiting your team, and you'll probably notice a damage spike by playing as smart as possible, shooting the same things your teammates are shooting, not taking pointless 1v1's, not rushing ahead of your team into 1v[more than one]'s.

As scout, you are probably the most heal efficient class, so playing with the beam more often will also help.

In the end, relax, you'll play your best when you're focused on making smart decisions instead of being hyper-aware of being worried about your aim, because there's so much more to scout than just brain dead aim.

I'd focus on keeping deaths to a minimum, while not baiting your team, and you'll probably notice a damage spike by playing as smart as possible, shooting the same things your teammates are shooting, not taking pointless 1v1's, not rushing ahead of your team into 1v[more than one]'s.

As scout, you are probably the most heal efficient class, so playing with the beam more often will also help.

In the end, relax, you'll play your best when you're focused on making smart decisions instead of being hyper-aware of being worried about your aim, because there's so much more to scout than just brain dead aim.
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#8
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yeah you need to play in an environment with uncoordinated team compositions and random spawn locations in order to simulate a realistic competitive midfight scenario

yeah you need to play in an environment with uncoordinated team compositions and random spawn locations in order to simulate a realistic competitive midfight scenario
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#9
6 Frags +

lower your sens if it's less than 4 inches per 360, get buffs more often, don't go too deep in team fights, call what you're doing so your team can help you

lower your sens if it's less than 4 inches per 360, get buffs more often, don't go too deep in team fights, call what you're doing so your team can help you
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#10
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-if you're not doing well at first I would recommend playing the beam

-keep a sharp ear for damage calls sometimes you just have to let your team do damage so you can clean up

-speaking of clean up, there's times where you have to be janitor and times where you have to drive the truck, this comes with experience

-if you're consistently 100-200 dpm, you need to slow down and try to aim, take time with your shots
-when dodging projectiles bait them towards you and move out of the way or in w/e direction ur in

-practice your MGE, DM is kind of just an autopilot let other people do 3000 damage while you get frags doing 3 dmg, if you dont learn how to do high damage its not going to end up well

good luck.

-if you're not doing well at first I would recommend playing the beam

-keep a sharp ear for damage calls sometimes you just have to let your team do damage so you can clean up

-speaking of clean up, there's times where you have to be janitor and times where you have to drive the truck, this comes with experience

-if you're consistently 100-200 dpm, you need to slow down and try to aim, take time with your shots
-when dodging projectiles bait them towards you and move out of the way or in w/e direction ur in

-practice your MGE, DM is kind of just an autopilot let other people do 3000 damage while you get frags doing 3 dmg, if you dont learn how to do high damage its not going to end up well

good luck.
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#11
refresh.tf
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBfk5PBY-Mg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBfk5PBY-Mg
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#12
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DM is better than people in this thread are making it out to be. Its not exactly any closer to an actual fight in 6v6 any more than MGE is, aside from the number of players but it does teach you positioning/movement vs different classes in DM heavy situations. It also allows you to work on stuff like target prioritisation in those situations, which is helpful on scout as a lot of the time you want to be cleaning up damaged players. MGE is also helpful, and offers a DM situation where the pressure is constantly on you, but has some disadvantages as well. If you're playing MGE, I'd recommend playing it with a friend who has an equal or slightly higher skill level to you. DM is more easily playable on your own because you can focus on aim and movement and improve fast even if you're getting shit on.

Neither will make you get better at gamesense. I would recommend just playing scrims, watching your own demos and thinking about the mistakes you make as well as watching casts/povs of high level games and seeing what the players/teams do differently to you.

DM is better than people in this thread are making it out to be. Its not exactly any closer to an actual fight in 6v6 any more than MGE is, aside from the number of players but it does teach you positioning/movement vs different classes in DM heavy situations. It also allows you to work on stuff like target prioritisation in those situations, which is helpful on scout as a lot of the time you want to be cleaning up damaged players. MGE is also helpful, and offers a DM situation where the pressure is constantly on you, but has some disadvantages as well. If you're playing MGE, I'd recommend playing it with a friend who has an equal or slightly higher skill level to you. DM is more easily playable on your own because you can focus on aim and movement and improve fast even if you're getting shit on.

Neither will make you get better at gamesense. I would recommend just playing scrims, watching your own demos and thinking about the mistakes you make as well as watching casts/povs of high level games and seeing what the players/teams do differently to you.
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#13
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I play scout ...
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BTW I play scout

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BTW I play scout
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#14
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he plays scout guys

on a serious note though - watch your demos, realizing why taking that fight was bad/going in there was wrong can help a great deal as well as help your team as a whole.

he plays scout guys

on a serious note though - watch your demos, realizing why taking that fight was bad/going in there was wrong can help a great deal as well as help your team as a whole.
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#15
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To save you a lot of grinding time that I once wasted when I first started to learn scout is to actually put thought into how you are practicing. Simply playing a lot of mge won't get you anywhere unless you apply yourself and try to analyze what is and what isn't working for you.

At the start I would recommend having a friend play a slower moving class, soldier or demo, and have him just move around whole you try to track him with your pistol out and shooting once every time the spread is back to center. Eventually your friend can play scout and repeat the same thing to get it down but towards a faster target. Try to keep track of them regardless of how many times you end up completely off of them. I like to tell people that ask me that it takes a lot of conscious thought to improve your aim and knowing how to practice will help you improve at a more significant pace. Eventually you will have to play other people and the tracking and mouse control will hopefully become more second nature and thus, you start to focus on movement while aiming. Eventually you progress more and more to DM, then apply it during scrim where you learn game sense and positioning. But if you wanted to just to get down just aiming this is a good start.

To save you a lot of grinding time that I once wasted when I first started to learn scout is to actually put thought into how you are practicing. Simply playing a lot of mge won't get you anywhere unless you apply yourself and try to analyze what is and what isn't working for you.

At the start I would recommend having a friend play a slower moving class, soldier or demo, and have him just move around whole you try to track him with your pistol out and shooting once every time the spread is back to center. Eventually your friend can play scout and repeat the same thing to get it down but towards a faster target. Try to keep track of them regardless of how many times you end up completely off of them. I like to tell people that ask me that it takes a lot of conscious thought to improve your aim and knowing how to practice will help you improve at a more significant pace. Eventually you will have to play other people and the tracking and mouse control will hopefully become more second nature and thus, you start to focus on movement while aiming. Eventually you progress more and more to DM, then apply it during scrim where you learn game sense and positioning. But if you wanted to just to get down just aiming this is a good start.
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