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#301
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jesus christ

jesus christ
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#302
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SchweppesI'm not really going to read everything that was said in this conversation, but this is an interesting video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Vj3DXwOBI

Here's the whole video from above I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cUDl_LEtak

[quote=Schweppes]I'm not really going to read everything that was said in this conversation, but this is an interesting video on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__Vj3DXwOBI[/quote]

Here's the whole video from above I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cUDl_LEtak
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#303
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eeeand what are black people saying they're entitled to? not getting harrassed by the police and then shot and killed seems like more of a right

its also p well documented (source) that people with ethnic or urban names are less likely to be interviewed or receive employment

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/02/12/bernie-sanders-and-black-crime-myths/
But hey I guess playing the victim is easier

That source doesn't account for iq differences and crime differences ( http://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf and above ), etc
Hiring people is a gamble and employers have to play the odds

[quote=eee]
and what are black people saying they're entitled to? not getting harrassed by the police and then shot and killed seems like more of a right

its also p well documented ([url=http://www.nber.org/digest/sep03/w9873.html]source[/url]) that people with ethnic or urban names are less likely to be interviewed or receive employment
[/quote]

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/02/12/bernie-sanders-and-black-crime-myths/
But hey I guess playing the victim is easier

That source doesn't account for iq differences and crime differences ( http://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf and above ), etc
Hiring people is a gamble and employers have to play the odds
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#304
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whyd you change your flag elliott

whyd you change your flag elliott
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#305
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#306
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StagDouble standard

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/racism

[quote=Stag]Double standard[/quote]

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/racism
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#307
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Ok sure black people can't be oppressively racist against white people at a macro level but a black dude saying "I hate white people" is still inherently racist (even if it's taken less seriously than a white dude saying "I hate black people", for obvious reasons)

Ok sure black people can't be oppressively racist against white people at a macro level but a black dude saying "I hate white people" is still inherently racist (even if it's taken less seriously than a white dude saying "I hate black people", for obvious reasons)
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#308
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Presidential vote in america has to be the most stupid thing I've ever seen.
Everyone is literally the same right-wing idiot who starts a campaign saying things he will never end up doing.
Its pretty funny seeing how imperialistic usa has always been and people get shocked when people like donald trump run for president and promote racism.
The joke will get even bigger in a few years as people fail to realise capitalism leads to fascism.

Presidential vote in america has to be the most stupid thing I've ever seen.
Everyone is literally the same right-wing idiot who starts a campaign saying things he will never end up doing.
Its pretty funny seeing how imperialistic usa has always been and people get shocked when people like donald trump run for president and promote racism.
The joke will get even bigger in a few years as people fail to realise capitalism leads to fascism.
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#309
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wow wat happened to this thread lol

stag i think ur mistaking the concept of white privilege over the idea of hating people based on race. hating a race cuz of whatever reason is still racism in the end. if u hate them for political reasons only it's different but then u wouldnt group them by race, rather based on their political views. power positions do not make racial hate justified. so trying to tie collective preconceived notions to someone's skin color or ethnic background is a rly fkin stupid thing to do, whether u white or black or any shade of beige in between lol

i just wanted to answer the thread question

thmpsnbernie or bernie

id have to pick bernie

wow wat happened to this thread lol

stag i think ur mistaking the concept of white privilege over the idea of hating people based on race. hating a race cuz of whatever reason is still racism in the end. if u hate them for political reasons only it's different but then u wouldnt group them by race, rather based on their political views. power positions do not make racial hate justified. so trying to tie collective preconceived notions to someone's skin color or ethnic background is a rly fkin stupid thing to do, whether u white or black or any shade of beige in between lol

i just wanted to answer the thread question

[quote=thmpsn]bernie or bernie[/quote]
id have to pick bernie
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#310
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StagRacism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.

That is the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on these forums.

[quote=Stag]Racism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.[/quote]

That is the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on these forums.
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#311
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StagSo it seems like a few things about race aren't directly understood by some individuals

Racism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.

This is where the idea of white privilege comes from, in the US whites currently have to face less institutionalized obstacles than people of color. Just because there are successful people of color it doesn't mean that ALL people of color can be successful in our society. Take Arizona as an example, there may be successful Latinos in Arizona, but due to Senate Bill 1070, they could still face INSTITUTIONALIZED racial profiling and discrimination because they look "illegal". So even in the rare case of a person of color achieving success in this country, they can still face the same discrimination and prejudice as any other person of color, unlike whites who because of their race will not have to face institutional discrimination.

I also noticed that movements like BLM were called racist. BLM didn't start just because one black dude got shot by a police officer, it started because we are in a country where there is a system designed to make it harder for people of color to succeed (individual success does not represent the masses). Look at the School to Prison Pipeline (https://www.aclu.org/fact-sheet/what-school-prison-pipeline), when the majority of schools that are underfunded are filled with people of color due to issues like gentrification, the system is setting up these racial groups for failure later in life which may lead some to prison. And on the note of black people being shot because they are "breaking the law" please explain how incidents like a 12 year old boy being shot because he had a toy gun is justified, or how being killed for using SELF DEFENSE is justified. Furthermore, take a step back and look at the racial groups that are seeing the majority of these incidents happen to them, because there sure as hell is not as many white kids being killed based on suspicion by police. Now think about if you were seeing many children of your race murdered by police because they "feared for their lives", and seeing those officers get off without punishment the majority of the time. That anger is what drives movements like BLM. Overall, BLM is just talking about issues that the whites aren't comfortable talking about, which makes it easier to call racist against whites (which again, is impossible in the US).

P.S- Its easy to trivialize incidents of police brutality and manslaughter when the media tries to make the victims still seem at fault.

are you saying that this means whites can't be racist towards current African governments for stealing property, encouraging murder and "nationalising" private companies and lead them to ruin with incompetence and greed?

Cuz fuck that nigger Mugabe and fuck this college students worshipping the nigger mandela, Zuma and the ANC for ruining south africa, and look me saying nigger isn't racist becuase i'm talking about blacks in a position of power

and if you don't like that, oh yea i also identify as fluid transblack, so don't take offense please and check your cis privilege.

Also can we build in an option of turning off american posts, i don't like to read retards...

[quote=Stag]So it seems like a few things about race aren't directly understood by some individuals

Racism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.

This is where the idea of white privilege comes from, in the US whites currently have to face less institutionalized obstacles than people of color. Just because there are successful people of color it doesn't mean that ALL people of color can be successful in our society. Take Arizona as an example, there may be successful Latinos in Arizona, but due to Senate Bill 1070, they could still face INSTITUTIONALIZED racial profiling and discrimination because they look "illegal". So even in the rare case of a person of color achieving success in this country, they can still face the same discrimination and prejudice as any other person of color, unlike whites who because of their race will not have to face institutional discrimination.

I also noticed that movements like BLM were called racist. BLM didn't start just because one black dude got shot by a police officer, it started because we are in a country where there is a system designed to make it harder for people of color to succeed (individual success does not represent the masses). Look at the School to Prison Pipeline (https://www.aclu.org/fact-sheet/what-school-prison-pipeline), when the majority of schools that are underfunded are filled with people of color due to issues like gentrification, the system is setting up these racial groups for failure later in life which may lead some to prison. And on the note of black people being shot because they are "breaking the law" please explain how incidents like a 12 year old boy being shot because he had a toy gun is justified, or how being killed for using SELF DEFENSE is justified. Furthermore, take a step back and look at the racial groups that are seeing the majority of these incidents happen to them, because there sure as hell is not as many white kids being killed based on suspicion by police. Now think about if you were seeing many children of your race murdered by police because they "feared for their lives", and seeing those officers get off without punishment the majority of the time. That anger is what drives movements like BLM. Overall, BLM is just talking about issues that the whites aren't comfortable talking about, which makes it easier to call racist against whites (which again, is impossible in the US).

P.S- Its easy to trivialize incidents of police brutality and manslaughter when the media tries to make the victims still seem at fault.[/quote]

are you saying that this means whites can't be racist towards current African governments for stealing property, encouraging murder and "nationalising" private companies and lead them to ruin with incompetence and greed?

Cuz fuck that nigger Mugabe and fuck this college students worshipping the nigger mandela, Zuma and the ANC for ruining south africa, and look me saying nigger isn't racist becuase i'm talking about blacks in a position of power

and if you don't like that, oh yea i also identify as fluid transblack, so don't take offense please and check your cis privilege.

Also can we build in an option of turning off american posts, i don't like to read retards...
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#312
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And now my serious post: the concepts in identity politics are hollow and only cause racial groups to have more tensions against each other, instead of being united as a block against wealth disparity and the corruption of the political elite and media http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/29/msnbc_host_tamron_hall_caught_off_guard_when_black_trump_supporter_says_to_ignore_race-baiting.html

And now my serious post: the concepts in identity politics are hollow and only cause racial groups to have more tensions against each other, instead of being united as a block against wealth disparity and the corruption of the political elite and media http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/29/msnbc_host_tamron_hall_caught_off_guard_when_black_trump_supporter_says_to_ignore_race-baiting.html
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#313
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sacand if you don't like that, oh yea i also identify as fluid transblack, so don't take offense please and check your cis privilege.

is this tumblr

[quote=sac]
and if you don't like that, oh yea i also identify as fluid transblack, so don't take offense please and check your cis privilege.
[/quote]

is this tumblr
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#314
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dollarlayerStagRacism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.
That is the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on these forums.

I wanted to respond to it but I'm not sure if its tumblr satire or serious

[quote=dollarlayer][quote=Stag]Racism isn't a two way street. Blacks/Hispanics/Asians/Pacific Islanders cannot be racist towards whites because they do not have a society built around them to give them advantages over other races. Sure, any race can be discriminatory or prejudiced against another, but racism requires a dominant group exercising power over a minoritized group in order for a systemic benefit.[/quote]

That is the biggest pile of horse shit I've ever read on these forums.[/quote]
I wanted to respond to it but I'm not sure if its tumblr satire or serious
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#315
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stagI don't know how to read a dictionary but I'm gonna write a wall of text

rac·ism

Racism ('rāˌsizəm) noun-
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

[quote=stag]I don't know how to read a dictionary but I'm gonna write a wall of text[/quote]rac·ism

Racism ('rāˌsizəm) noun-
The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.
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#316
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eeesheepy_dogs_hand
police shootings aren't always in self defense but most of the time they are
so you think its ok that the police still shoot and kill people when they aren't in harm's way?

That is just pathetic, you are clearing taking things way out of context and making stuff up just so you can make yourself look good. There is no way someone can be so illiterate as to interpret something like this. I don't know if you are doing this for upfrags or if you just want to look like a good person in front of everyone. Truth is you are still a horrible person just like me and everyone else on this planet, this makes it perfectly clear that you are only doing this for your own gratification and I highly doubt you even care about what you are defending.

[quote=eee][quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]

police shootings aren't always in self defense but most of the time they are [/quote]
so you think its ok that the police still shoot and kill people when they aren't in harm's way?
[/quote]

That is just pathetic, you are clearing taking things way out of context and making stuff up just so you can make yourself look good. There is no way someone can be so illiterate as to interpret something like this. I don't know if you are doing this for upfrags or if you just want to look like a good person in front of everyone. Truth is you are still a horrible person just like me and everyone else on this planet, this makes it perfectly clear that you are only doing this for your own gratification and I highly doubt you even care about what you are defending.
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#317
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I really, sincerely wish I hadn't clicked on this thread and read any of the posts in here. It was much less unnerving judging all of you by the quality of your memes than judging you by how awful and incoherent all of your politics are.

I really, sincerely wish I hadn't clicked on this thread and read any of the posts in here. It was much less unnerving judging all of you by the quality of your memes than judging you by how awful and incoherent all of your politics are.
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#318
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We've come full circle.

We have sheepy and red talking about the entitlement of black people and someone saying minorities can't be racist.

Both sides of the horseshoe have been seen and yin yang achieved.

We've come full circle.

We have sheepy and red talking about the entitlement of black people and someone saying minorities can't be racist.

Both sides of the horseshoe have been seen and yin yang achieved.
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#319
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stag how's your sociology 101 class going

stag how's your sociology 101 class going
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#320
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stag too busy fragging to actually pay attention in soc 101

wait no that's skag

good I would have been really sad if skag wrote that

stag too busy fragging to actually pay attention in soc 101

wait no that's skag

good I would have been really sad if skag wrote that
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#321
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im waiting for sheepy to call stag a retard SJW and watch the REAL retard fight happen

im waiting for sheepy to call stag a retard SJW and watch the REAL retard fight happen
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#322
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sad about frags? join a circlejerk today and get instantly upvoted despite how shitty and unproductive posts your posts really are xD

sad about frags? join a circlejerk today and get instantly upvoted despite how shitty and unproductive posts your posts really are xD
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#323
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sheepy_dogs_handeeesheepy_dogs_hand
police shootings aren't always in self defense but most of the time they are
so you think its ok that the police still shoot and kill people when they aren't in harm's way?

That is just pathetic, you are clearing taking things way out of context and making stuff up just so you can make yourself look good. There is no way someone can be so illiterate as to interpret something like this. I don't know if you are doing this for upfrags or if you just want to look like a good person in front of everyone. Truth is you are still a horrible person just like me and everyone else on this planet, this makes it perfectly clear that you are only doing this for your own gratification and I highly doubt you even care about what you are defending.

either

u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee][quote=sheepy_dogs_hand]

police shootings aren't always in self defense but most of the time they are [/quote]
so you think its ok that the police still shoot and kill people when they aren't in harm's way?
[/quote]

That is just pathetic, you are clearing taking things way out of context and making stuff up just so you can make yourself look good. There is no way someone can be so illiterate as to interpret something like this. I don't know if you are doing this for upfrags or if you just want to look like a good person in front of everyone. Truth is you are still a horrible person just like me and everyone else on this planet, this makes it perfectly clear that you are only doing this for your own gratification and I highly doubt you even care about what you are defending.[/quote]
either

u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?
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#324
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eeewhat other option is there?

maybe not have privatised prison system, so there is no incentive for judges to give long term punishments on the fly, and don't do crime so you won't get shot while fleeing the crime scene?

[quote=eee]
what other option is there?[/quote]
maybe not have privatised prison system, so there is no incentive for judges to give long term punishments on the fly, and don't do crime so you won't get shot while fleeing the crime scene?
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#325
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eee
u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.

[quote=eee]

u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?[/quote]

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.
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#326
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sheepy_dogs_handeee
u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.

thing is it's not even whites who are the store-owners who got looted in baltimore, it's mostly other ethnicies like http://media.bizj.us/view/img/5720191/img1606.jpg or http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TsFXJA9YHlE/TTeIfFOIuVI/AAAAAAAAAQI/VqNzxdhlp5s/s1600/58852252.jpg (good thing they have guns so they can protect their property) https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/111232390.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=326, because "white flight" already took plce and it's people from minorites all over the world, who face the brunt of the rioting in ghettos for decades.

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee]

u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?[/quote]

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.[/quote]
thing is it's not even whites who are the store-owners who got looted in baltimore, it's mostly other ethnicies like http://media.bizj.us/view/img/5720191/img1606.jpg or http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TsFXJA9YHlE/TTeIfFOIuVI/AAAAAAAAAQI/VqNzxdhlp5s/s1600/58852252.jpg (good thing they have guns so they can protect their property) https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/111232390.jpg?quality=75&strip=color&w=326, because "white flight" already took plce and it's people from minorites all over the world, who face the brunt of the rioting in ghettos for decades.
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#327
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sheepy_dogs_handeee
u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.

"clear self defense"

after being harassed and targeted by the police u mean? not like we could ask the dead guy what happened lmao

what is wrong with people protesting getting treated like shit by the police? please explain:)

if you're shooting at someone as a cop, you have fucked up massively lmao. obv there are extenuating circumstances but other first world countries don't have such militarized police forces and coincidentally don't have as many deaths by police.

[quote=sheepy_dogs_hand][quote=eee]

u think its acceptable for blacks to be killed by accident by the police at a higher rate than whites

or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general

what other option is there?[/quote]

I was specifically talking about how dumb it is how when blacks are shot by a white man in clear self defense, many of them still begin massive protests or even riots because people like Bernie Sanders encourage them. I wasn't saying that it's ok for cops to kill people when they aren't a threat cause it's not, but I am saying it's ok for a cop to kill someone when they are a threat.

"or u think its ok for people to be killed by the police in general"

You are fucking insane if you think that a police man killing someone is always a bad thing. It's called defending yourself and if you don't want to get shot don't be a fucking idiot, you have been fed lies that all cops are evil racist murderers when most of them are risking their lives everyday to protect little wimps like you.[/quote]
"clear self defense"

after being harassed and targeted by the police u mean? not like we could ask the dead guy what happened lmao

what is wrong with people protesting getting treated like shit by the police? please explain:)

if you're shooting at someone as a cop, you have fucked up massively lmao. obv there are extenuating circumstances but other first world countries don't have such militarized police forces and coincidentally don't have as many deaths by police.
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#328
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saceeewhat other option is there?maybe not have privatised prison system, so there is no incentive for judges to give long term punishments on the fly, and don't do crime so you won't get shot while fleeing the crime scene?

the point isn't even doing crime, unless you're trying to argue that people who steal shit or commit minor felonies or w/e deserve to be put to death w/o a trial

and while nonprivate prisons would help, its not like it would get rid of profiling

[quote=sac][quote=eee]
what other option is there?[/quote]
maybe not have privatised prison system, so there is no incentive for judges to give long term punishments on the fly, and don't do crime so you won't get shot while fleeing the crime scene?[/quote]
the point isn't even doing crime, unless you're trying to argue that people who steal shit or commit minor felonies or w/e deserve to be put to death w/o a trial

and while nonprivate prisons would help, its not like it would get rid of profiling
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#329
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eeeno

it hasn't

you can still be fired for being gay

you can still not be hired because you're black

because the people in charge are still 60

and the people coming up behind them have your mindset of everything being alright

do you have examples of this happening recently? have you considered that they were fired for other factors/not hired because they weren't the best candidate?

i ask because i'd assume there would be a social media outrage if something like that happened truly because of discrimination

[quote=eee]
no

it hasn't

you can still be fired for being gay

you can still not be hired because you're black

because the people in charge are still 60

and the people coming up behind them have your mindset of everything being alright[/quote]

do you have examples of this happening recently? have you considered that they were fired for other factors/not hired because they weren't the best candidate?

i ask because i'd assume there would be a social media outrage if something like that happened truly because of discrimination
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http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/02/12/bernie-sanders-and-black-crime-myths/
But hey I guess playing the victim is easier

That source doesn't account for iq differences and crime differences ( http://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf and above ), etc
Hiring people is a gamble and employers have to play the odds

first link draws conclusions that say there's a smaller, but still notable difference in how the races are treated by police when you remove outside factors
the second says that actual race plays a low part in sentencing, but instead says that the problems arise withing the community. If you stop it there, its a clear justification for racism, but if you look at it in the picture of actually being black (poor, unprivileged, surrounded by crime), it becomes less about race, and more about socioeconomic status. GJ picking an article by a racist right winger tho lmao

im too lazy to read 43 pages of crime shit but IQ differences also correlate strongly with socioeconomic status (http://www.ascd.org/publications/researchbrief/v2n21/toc.aspx) which in general means that if a group of people had historically been oppressed down into the bottom rungs of society, they would also be more likely to suffer from factors that limit their development

[quote=Forefather]

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/11/25/race-and-justice-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
http://therightstuff.biz/2016/02/12/bernie-sanders-and-black-crime-myths/
But hey I guess playing the victim is easier

That source doesn't account for iq differences and crime differences ( http://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf and above ), etc
Hiring people is a gamble and employers have to play the odds[/quote]
first link draws conclusions that say there's a smaller, but still notable difference in how the races are treated by police when you remove outside factors
the second says that actual race plays a low part in sentencing, but instead says that the problems arise withing the community. If you stop it there, its a clear justification for racism, but if you look at it in the picture of actually being black (poor, unprivileged, surrounded by crime), it becomes less about race, and more about socioeconomic status. GJ picking an article by a racist right winger tho lmao

im too lazy to read 43 pages of crime shit but IQ differences also correlate strongly with socioeconomic status (http://www.ascd.org/publications/researchbrief/v2n21/toc.aspx) which in general means that if a group of people had historically been oppressed down into the bottom rungs of society, they would also be more likely to suffer from factors that limit their development
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