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The Gun Mettle Update
721
#721
3 Frags +
m0nkeiIs anyone else here getting bad performances after the update? Any reason why is this happening? And no i don't use dx9

Yes. Apparently using a skinned gun with r_drawviewmodel 1 makes it worse so try not using a skinned gun. Even aside from that a lot of people are reporting major performance hits (50+ fps)

[quote=m0nkei]Is anyone else here getting bad performances after the update? Any reason why is this happening? And no i don't use dx9[/quote]

Yes. Apparently using a skinned gun with r_drawviewmodel 1 makes it worse so try not using a skinned gun. Even aside from that a lot of people are reporting major performance hits (50+ fps)
722
#722
2 Frags +

does anyone have that ipz vs mgemike video with the singing chinese guys?

does anyone have that ipz vs mgemike video with the singing chinese guys?
723
#723
3 Frags +
MaxillawsRocket Jumping will be fixed tomorrow
http://i.imgur.com/Wp6K3Jb.jpg

Shouldn't this have shipped by now?

[quote=Maxillaws]Rocket Jumping will be fixed tomorrow
http://i.imgur.com/Wp6K3Jb.jpg[/quote]
Shouldn't this have shipped by now?
724
#724
0 Frags +
deetrm0nkeiIs anyone else here getting bad performances after the update? Any reason why is this happening? And no i don't use dx9
Yes. Apparently using a skinned gun with r_drawviewmodel 1 makes it worse so try not using a skinned gun. Even aside from that a lot of people are reporting major performance hits (50+ fps)

i feel like the game uses more memory now (i only have 2 gigs)...can anyone confirm?

[quote=deetr][quote=m0nkei]Is anyone else here getting bad performances after the update? Any reason why is this happening? And no i don't use dx9[/quote]

Yes. Apparently using a skinned gun with r_drawviewmodel 1 makes it worse so try not using a skinned gun. Even aside from that a lot of people are reporting major performance hits (50+ fps)[/quote]
i feel like the game uses more memory now (i only have 2 gigs)...can anyone confirm?
725
#725
2 Frags +
EricMaxillawsRocket Jumping will be fixed tomorrow
http://i.imgur.com/Wp6K3Jb.jpg
Shouldn't this have shipped by now?

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

[quote=Eric][quote=Maxillaws]Rocket Jumping will be fixed tomorrow
http://i.imgur.com/Wp6K3Jb.jpg[/quote]
Shouldn't this have shipped by now?[/quote]

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
726
#726
0 Frags +

Fix update is coming HLDS-time "soon", which is actually soon.

Fix update is coming HLDS-time "soon", which is actually soon.
727
#727
4 Frags +

i just got the update, restarting the game now

i just got the update, restarting the game now
728
#728
10 Frags +

ROCKET jumping is fixed
demo is still broken in general

ROCKET jumping is fixed
demo is still broken in general
729
#729
-11 Frags +

rocket jumping isn't fixed, I just did a ctap only jump and it worked without actually ctapping smh

edit: Should've specified that rocket jumping is still broken

rocket jumping isn't fixed, I just did a ctap only jump and it worked without actually ctapping smh

edit: Should've specified that rocket jumping is still broken
730
#730
7 Frags +

Dropped weapons now retain their ammo and berCharge levels unless the player commits suicide

am i reading this right that you CAN pick up ubers from dropped meds?

Dropped weapons now retain their ammo and berCharge levels unless the player commits suicide

am i reading this right that you CAN pick up ubers from dropped meds?
731
#731
3 Frags +

Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be
732
#732
3 Frags +

Speedshotting is fixed, however

Speedshotting is fixed, however
733
#733
-9 Frags +

rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.

rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.
734
#734
8 Frags +
Niko_Jimsrip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.

?????

[quote=Niko_Jims]rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.[/quote]

?????
735
#735
4 Frags +
omnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.

[quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.
736
#736
-2 Frags +
deetrNiko_Jimsrip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.
?????

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?

[quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims]rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.[/quote]

?????[/quote]

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?
737
#737
0 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFmOwbYv98&feature=youtu.be
speedshots are fixed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMFmOwbYv98&feature=youtu.be
speedshots are fixed
738
#738
-2 Frags +
SideshowomnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.

even getting a really good crouch jump 10 times in a row is improbable

[quote=Sideshow][quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.[/quote]

even getting a really good crouch jump 10 times in a row is improbable
739
#739
5 Frags +
Niko_JimsdeetrNiko_Jimsrip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.
?????

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"

[quote=Niko_Jims][quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims]rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.[/quote]

?????[/quote]

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?[/quote]

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"
740
#740
7 Frags +
omnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

thats first jump on 4starters c course right? cuz that jump isnt a ctap its a normal jump

[quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]
thats first jump on 4starters c course right? cuz that jump isnt a ctap its a normal jump
741
#741
-1 Frags +
Bob_MarleyomnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be
thats first jump on 4starters c course right? cuz that jump isnt a ctap its a normal jump
SideshowomnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.
[quote=Bob_Marley][quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]
thats first jump on 4starters c course right? cuz that jump isnt a ctap its a normal jump[/quote]
[quote=Sideshow][quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]

Just tried it, it is fixed but you seem to be able to go a little bit further...it's still very possible to fail that jump, but now you only need a good crouch jump to get there instead of a perfect one. You never actually needed a ctap for it, only a really good crouch jump.[/quote]
742
#742
0 Frags +

sorry im blind

sorry im blind
743
#743
0 Frags +
omnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

fucking cucumber

[quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]

fucking cucumber
744
#744
4 Frags +
deetrNiko_JimsdeetrNiko_Jimsrip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.
?????

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"

Back then, though, it was only a drop. Now you get a free uber, something a Roamer won't be able to do as easily due to how scared people will be (they'll just pop and do the same thing to you in just throwing soldiers at you). Forcing will be very easy now, enough that a Sniper can do it just as effectively because no one wants to deal with the RNG factor of "will he hit the shot" because now, if he hits the shot, you don't just drop, you give them another uber.

I just don't see why on maps like Viaduct or Process that there would be a reason to run a Roamer when 1 click could instantly lose you the round.

[quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims][quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims]rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.[/quote]

?????[/quote]

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?[/quote]

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"[/quote]

Back then, though, it was only a drop. Now you get a free uber, something a Roamer won't be able to do as easily due to how scared people will be (they'll just pop and do the same thing to you in just throwing soldiers at you). Forcing will be very easy now, enough that a Sniper can do it just as effectively because no one wants to deal with the RNG factor of "will he hit the shot" because now, if he hits the shot, you don't just drop, you give them another uber.

I just don't see why on maps like Viaduct or Process that there would be a reason to run a Roamer when 1 click could instantly lose you the round.
745
#745
1 Frags +
Niko_JimsdeetrNiko_JimsdeetrNiko_Jimsrip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.
?????

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"

Back then, though, it was only a drop. Now you get a free uber, something a Roamer won't be able to do as easily due to how scared people will be (they'll just pop and do the same thing to you in just throwing soldiers at you). Forcing will be very easy now, enough that a Sniper can do it just as effectively because no one wants to deal with the RNG factor of "will he hit the shot" because now, if he hits the shot, you don't just drop, you give them another uber.

I just don't see why on maps like Viaduct or Process that there would be a reason to run a Roamer when 1 click could instantly lose you the round.

I'm not dis-agreeing or agreeing with what you said, but you should consider the logistics of actually getting the medigun the medic drops. Given how safe most medics choose to position themselves in stalemates eg in the back corner it would be pretty easy to notice you going for it then they can just spam the spot and deny you the medigun? you're also losing positioning to risk getting it.

[quote=Niko_Jims][quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims][quote=deetr][quote=Niko_Jims]rip Roamer, hello full time Sniper.[/quote]

?????[/quote]

Why would you run a roamer when you can run a sniper, drop the med, and get a free uber?[/quote]

if you could drop the med every time you played sniper then you could just already run fulltime sniper before the update

I think it was clockwork who said "sniper would be viable at a high level if you hit 100% of your shots, but nobody can so it's not"[/quote]

Back then, though, it was only a drop. Now you get a free uber, something a Roamer won't be able to do as easily due to how scared people will be (they'll just pop and do the same thing to you in just throwing soldiers at you). Forcing will be very easy now, enough that a Sniper can do it just as effectively because no one wants to deal with the RNG factor of "will he hit the shot" because now, if he hits the shot, you don't just drop, you give them another uber.

I just don't see why on maps like Viaduct or Process that there would be a reason to run a Roamer when 1 click could instantly lose you the round.[/quote]

I'm not dis-agreeing or agreeing with what you said, but you should consider the logistics of actually getting the medigun the medic drops. Given how safe most medics choose to position themselves in stalemates eg in the back corner it would be pretty easy to notice you going for it then they can just spam the spot and deny you the medigun? you're also losing positioning to risk getting it.
746
#746
0 Frags +

You would pop the uber in and go straight for it because it's a free uber. No reason not to pop if you can get 1-2 picks and a free uber. Hell, the only real objective is to grab the medigun because even if you uber and get jack shit (assumes you get the gun, which I don't see how you wouldn't get it), they are forced to give up the point.

You would pop the uber in and go straight for it because it's a free uber. No reason not to pop if you can get 1-2 picks and a free uber. Hell, the only real objective is to grab the medigun because even if you uber and get jack shit (assumes you get the gun, which I don't see how you wouldn't get it), they are forced to give up the point.
747
#747
6 Frags +

guys please delete recursive quotes

guys please delete recursive quotes
748
#748
0 Frags +
omnificUnless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be

but what if green 1 isnt a ctap?????

ninja'd by bob marley...

[quote=omnific]Unless I've subconsiously learned to ctap over a 24 hour period, this shouldn't be possible. This video was taken 10 minutes ago, as soon as i realized that I'd get downfragged if i didn't show evidence. This video was taken after the update on July 3rd, 2015, at around 10:45 EST and shows that there is no change between the current state of the game and the state of the game after the update on July 2nd, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOK-vp65-QQ&feature=youtu.be[/quote]
but what if green 1 isnt a ctap?????

ninja'd by bob marley...
749
#749
30 Frags +

Just played a pug. Great comms from sideshow.

"They have uber - we have one and a half ubers"

rip sanity.

Just played a pug. Great comms from sideshow.

"They have uber - we have one and a half ubers"

rip sanity.
750
#750
9 Frags +

The only positive from this is that two wrongs have accidentally made a right.

1st Wrong: You drop uber% on death.
2nd Wrong: You can't change weapons except in a clumsy retarded way.

The Right: it's actually quite hard to take two mediguns with you over any distance. This means that to use 2 ubers you have to use the first one in, trade ubers, then retreat back to your other medigun and use in again. It's perfectly viable and actually might prevent this snowballing we're talking about, but in some situations it means it's better to stalemate and build 2 ubers instead of pushing with a small advantage on 1 uber. What a time to be alive.

The only positive from this is that two wrongs have accidentally made a right.

1st Wrong: You drop uber% on death.
2nd Wrong: You can't change weapons except in a clumsy retarded way.

The Right: it's actually quite hard to take two mediguns with you over any distance. This means that to use 2 ubers you have to use the first one in, trade ubers, then retreat back to your other medigun and use in again. It's perfectly viable and actually might prevent this snowballing we're talking about, but in some situations it means it's better to stalemate and build 2 ubers instead of pushing with a small advantage on 1 uber. What a time to be alive.
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