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Frag Removal Discussion
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#61
2 Frags +

How about we only have +frags on the off topic forums cause that's pretty much the FW: bin to the dumpster anyway.

How about we only have +frags on the off topic forums cause that's pretty much the FW: bin to the dumpster anyway.
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#62
-1 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLSlet's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people

+fragged

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]let's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people[/quote]

+fragged
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#63
1 Frags +
wareyapost frags reward circlejerks, bandwagons, and hivemind manipulation by creating a feelgood system for doing so

+Fragged because I like to be rewarded :D

[quote=wareya]post frags reward circlejerks, bandwagons, and hivemind manipulation by creating a feelgood system for doing so[/quote]

+Fragged because I like to be rewarded :D
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#64
2 Frags +

I don't think frags should be removed just made public.
Also when I make valid posts I tend to get +frags so you guys don't entirely hate me

I don't think frags should be removed just made public.
Also when I make valid posts I tend to get +frags so you guys don't entirely hate me
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#65
2 Frags +

I love checking forums of different game developers from time to time, if anyone is aware of Telltale, they had a similar problem in their Forum section. The community disliked Downvotes and some people even had to leave TT forums because of constant stream of downvoters, their solution was to remove Downvotes completely and keep Upvotes, so that the Forum members could rate the valuableness/helpfulness of Comments, instead of just disliking certain community members 24/7.

I love checking forums of different game developers from time to time, if anyone is aware of Telltale, they had a similar problem in their Forum section. The community disliked Downvotes and some people even had to leave TT forums because of constant stream of downvoters, their solution was to remove Downvotes completely and keep Upvotes, so that the Forum members could rate the valuableness/helpfulness of Comments, instead of just disliking certain community members 24/7.
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#66
1 Frags +

There is no purpose for +frags, and -frags anymore. Frags were likely implemented on an idealistic basis of being constructive, ie, showing support for players, streams, events, etc. and the ability to express approval or disapproval on a subject matter while being unbiased, and fair.

It's wasted time to whomever would write the code to make frags visible to the public, especially considering the potential that groups will not care regardless. Groups and individuals 'supporting' or 'disapproving' of a post(s) typically don't gain an infamous public image regardless of us knowing who they are for various reasons.

With what I said in mind, Wareya also made a very significant point.

wareyaPost frags reward circlejerks, bandwagons, and hivemind manipulation by creating a feelgood system for doing so.

Remove frags as a feature, and move on. The current problems w/ group posting present will still exist, albeit in a significantly lesser extent and in a much less negative manner, even if the system is modified to only feature +frags.

There is no purpose for +frags, and -frags anymore. Frags were likely implemented on an idealistic basis of being constructive, ie, showing support for players, streams, events, etc. and the ability to express approval or disapproval on a subject matter while being unbiased, and fair.

It's wasted time to whomever would write the code to make frags visible to the public, especially considering the potential that [i]groups will not care[/i] regardless. Groups and individuals 'supporting' or 'disapproving' of a post(s) typically don't gain an infamous public image regardless of us knowing who they are for various reasons.

With what I said in mind, Wareya also made a very significant point.
[quote=wareya]Post frags reward circlejerks, bandwagons, and hivemind manipulation by creating a feelgood system for doing so.[/quote]

Remove frags as a feature, and move on. The current problems w/ group posting present will still exist, albeit in a significantly lesser extent and in a much less negative manner, even if the system is modified to only feature +frags.
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#67
1 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLSlet's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people

So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]let's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people[/quote]

So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power
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#68
0 Frags +
ObimarmadukeGRYLLSlet's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people
So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power

How often do you see people get +100 or -100 frags?

[quote=Obi][quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]let's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people[/quote]

So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power[/quote]

How often do you see people get +100 or -100 frags?
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#69
-1 Frags +
NightGoatObimarmadukeGRYLLSlet's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people
So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power

How often do you see people get +100 or -100 frags?

My best score is +128 upfrags

[quote=NightGoat][quote=Obi][quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]let's make it so every post that hits -100 frags gets the account banned for a week, +100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people[/quote]

So invite = free ban pass. It's making the rich richer, and the poor poorer. :(
Also pls don't ban me when you come to power[/quote]

How often do you see people get +100 or -100 frags?[/quote]
My best score is +128 upfrags
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#70
1 Frags +

#i55CHERRY

#i55CHERRY
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#71
0 Frags +

If frags were public wouldn't there still be bandwagoning? People could just side with big names they saw. Also why not just keep the + and - frags in the video sub forum if people like them there? It doesn't seem too necessary though since the video will have likes or dislikes on YouTube that you can see...

If frags were public wouldn't there still be bandwagoning? People could just side with big names they saw. Also why not just keep the + and - frags in the video sub forum if people like them there? It doesn't seem too necessary though since the video will have likes or dislikes on YouTube that you can see...
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#72
3 Frags +

Who the hell honestly cares? While the purpose of the fragging system is unrealistically idealistic, neither the positives nor the negatives outweigh each other. On one hand, the system can be used to circlejerk and bandwagon, but on the other hand, it can be used to support and promote. It's not perfect, clearly, but it's not so entirely bad that it should be taken away.

It's just a damn number. The entire time the 6s community has had a place to call home, we've always dealt with the fragging system helping and hurting us. If someone contributes to the community in some way that should actually be +fragged incredibly, then it will be regardless of whatever circlejerk might be against it. If it's a shit contribution, people will -frag it into oblivion.

And sure, there might be a quality post here and there, or a shit post here and there, that gets unnecessarily buried or praised for whatever reason, but I'm gonna go ahead and give this community the benefit of the doubt and believe most of us can see through whatever bullshit there is and call it out. I mean, we've been doing pretty well with that for quite a few years now.

Who the hell honestly cares? While the purpose of the fragging system is unrealistically idealistic, neither the positives nor the negatives outweigh each other. On one hand, the system can be used to circlejerk and bandwagon, but on the other hand, it can be used to support and promote. It's not perfect, clearly, but it's not so entirely bad that it should be taken away.

It's just a damn number. The entire time the 6s community has had a place to call home, we've always dealt with the fragging system helping and hurting us. If someone contributes to the community in some way that should actually be +fragged incredibly, then it will be regardless of whatever circlejerk might be against it. If it's a shit contribution, people will -frag it into oblivion.

And sure, there might be a quality post here and there, or a shit post here and there, that gets unnecessarily buried or praised for whatever reason, but I'm gonna go ahead and give this community the benefit of the doubt and believe most of us can see through whatever bullshit there is and call it out. I mean, we've been doing pretty well with that for quite a few years now.
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#73
13 Frags +

If you remove plus frags, I'm going to attach a strawpoll link to every post I make with the options "upfrag" and "downfrag."

If you remove plus frags, I'm going to attach a strawpoll link to every post I make with the options "upfrag" and "downfrag."
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#74
5 Frags +

On some level, frags seem to add the concept of consequence to posting. In my opinion, without them, you'd see even more shitposts and useless banter because people wouldn't have to face the fact that people find them annoying or disaprove of their bullshit.

On some level, frags seem to add the concept of consequence to posting. In my opinion, without them, you'd see even more shitposts and useless banter because people wouldn't have to face the fact that people find them annoying or disaprove of their bullshit.
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#75
0 Frags +

C I R C L E J E R K S

C I R C L E J E R K S
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#76
-3 Frags +

there really isnt any reason to remove frags since its a way to let the person know that whatever you're posting is retarded bullshit (ironic af, go ahead and downfrag if you'd like lol) or that people agree with your statement. regarding the shittalk thing by now everyone has probably accepted the fact that shittalk is part of the internet and no matter how hard you try its impossible to get rid of it.

there really isnt any reason to remove frags since its a way to let the person know that whatever you're posting is retarded bullshit (ironic af, go ahead and downfrag if you'd like lol) or that people agree with your statement. regarding the shittalk thing by now everyone has probably accepted the fact that shittalk is part of the internet and no matter how hard you try its impossible to get rid of it.
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#77
1 Frags +

 

 
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#78
-4 Frags +

i plus fragged this thread cause everyone else did

i plus fragged this thread cause everyone else did
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#79
2 Frags +
Snowshoehow come people say who cares or no one cares yet they post in this thread?

I guess it's a lot of effort for you to type 50 characters???

[quote=Snowshoe]how come people say who cares or no one cares yet they post in this thread?[/quote]

I guess it's a lot of effort for you to type 50 characters???
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#80
-2 Frags +

Nah frags are stupid as fuck

Stars are where it's at

This is not reddit

Nah frags are stupid as fuck

Stars are where it's at

This is not reddit
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#81
0 Frags +

 

 
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#82
-6 Frags +

I only post to get my post count up I gotta get ahead of slim

So I guess I don't care about the topic but I do care about the post?????

I only post to get my post count up I gotta get ahead of slim

So I guess I don't care about the topic but I do care about the post?????
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#83
-3 Frags +

 

 
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#84
9 Frags +

Yea overuse of punctuation is a pretty staple tool in any shitposter's arsenal

Yea overuse of punctuation is a pretty staple tool in any shitposter's arsenal
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#85
4 Frags +

this reminds me
whatever happened to defy

this reminds me
whatever happened to defy
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#86
3 Frags +

i dont think ive looked at my posts and said omg why is everyone -fragging me or whatever. when i see minus frags after i post something all i think is "oh fuck i posted something retarded again" and thats really it. if something on the internet affects you so much then maybe u have to get off it...

i dont think ive looked at my posts and said omg why is everyone -fragging me or whatever. when i see minus frags after i post something all i think is "oh fuck i posted something retarded again" and thats really it. if something on the internet affects you so much then maybe u have to get off it...
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#87
-8 Frags +

minus frag this

minus frag this
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#88
-2 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLS+100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people

enigma pls

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]+100 frags gives a specially colored name for a week and the ability to ban people[/quote]
enigma pls
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