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fargobawlersDougfargobawlersthe term raw aim is meaningless. in cs you peek and have to react in an instant, its tough and you need to hit a body sized target in that instant. in tf2 you peek and have more time to aim, its a smaller target, but you have more time to line the shot up. you have an easier time playing with the awp because the people you play against arent able to punish you, again its not really reflective of comparing the top level of either game.That's exactly what I said
DougWhat you could say is that AWPing is more about reaction time and positioning and Snipering is more about raw aiming.
And, ONCE AGAIN, since the first line of my first post in here I said it's DIFFERENT to play with an AWP and with a Sniper. And I, PERSONALLY, have more difficulty to play with a sniper even though I have much more experience with TF2 than I have with CSGO.

Start reading my whole posts before you reply, god damnit.

i really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.

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[quote=fargobawlers][quote=Doug][quote=fargobawlers]
the term raw aim is meaningless. in [b][size=14]cs[/size][/b] you peek and have to [b][size=14]react in an instant[/size][/b], its tough and you need to hit a body sized target in that instant. in [size=14][b]tf2[/b][/size] you peek and have more [b][size=14]time to aim, its a smaller target, but you have more time to line the shot up[/size][/b]. you have an easier time playing with the awp because the people you play against arent able to punish you, again its not really reflective of comparing the top level of either game.[/quote]
That's exactly what I said

[quote=Doug]What you could say is that AWPing is more about reaction time and positioning and Snipering is more about raw aiming.[/quote]

And, ONCE AGAIN, since the first line of my first post in here I said it's DIFFERENT to play with an AWP and with a Sniper. And I, PERSONALLY, have more difficulty to play with a sniper even though I have much more experience with TF2 than I have with CSGO.

Start reading my whole posts before you reply, god damnit.[/quote]

i really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.[/quote]
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what am I reading?

what am I reading?
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#63
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a thread that started about the player sheep turned into a discussion about sniping, didn't see that one coming

a thread that started about the player sheep turned into a discussion about sniping, didn't see that one coming
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#64
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#daretodefy

#daretodefy
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Its easy to get an awp ace in csgo, happens all the time. When was the last time you saw a fucking sniper get 6 consecutive kills in the same play? In csgo you die easily, most people die in the first 3-4 shots they get hit by. But you cant deny that having an awp on your team against a team with no awp is a huge advantage and you can't tell me that hitting a walking csgo player is easier than a fucking flying in the air soldier or double jumping scout. Sniping is so weak and hard that is is rare to run one full time, yet full time awp is pretty common. They are different, each one has its ups and downs, but because of the headshot mechanic i think csgo awping is easier. Im not saying its the only variable but it definitely is the tipping point. Also aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.

Its easy to get an awp ace in csgo, happens all the time. When was the last time you saw a fucking sniper get 6 consecutive kills in the same play? In csgo you die easily, most people die in the first 3-4 shots they get hit by. But you cant deny that having an awp on your team against a team with no awp is a huge advantage and you can't tell me that hitting a walking csgo player is easier than a fucking flying in the air soldier or double jumping scout. Sniping is so weak and hard that is is rare to run one full time, yet full time awp is pretty common. They are different, each one has its ups and downs, but because of the headshot mechanic i think csgo awping is easier. Im not saying its the only variable but it definitely is the tipping point. Also aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.
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fargobawlersi really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot

[quote=fargobawlers]i really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.[/quote]

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot
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Its easy to get an awp ace in csgo, happens all the time.

no it isnt and no it doesnt.

When was the last time you saw a fucking sniper get 6 consecutive kills in the same play?

your two situations are not even remotely comparable, this goes back to when plat first said that tf2 was "more hype" because 6ks were so much rarer than aces which is just absolutely brain dead logic.

But you cant deny that having an awp on your team against a team with no awp is a huge advantage and you can't tell me that hitting a walking csgo player is easier than a fucking flying in the air soldier or double jumping scout.

something being difficult extends beyond the % chance they hit the shot, the actual activity of awping is what im describing as difficult with all the decisions, risks, timing, and yes flicks

Sniping is so weak and hard that is is rare to run one full time, yet full time awp is pretty common.

again, use!=ease. pyro is rarely used in 6s does that mean it takes a lot of skill

They are different, each one has its ups and downs, but because of the headshot mechanic i think csgo awping is easier.

based on this one thing its harder? in tf2 you can peek for free, you can NEVER peek for free in cs, theres always some risk unless its the start of the round. in tf2 if you set up your angle you NEVER have to worry about being pop flashed. in tf2 when you peek with the sniper rifle you basically NEVER have to worry about being instantly killed (not killed a couple seconds later, i mean essentially at the moment you peek you die)

Im not saying its the only variable but it definitely is the tipping point. Also aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.

ur a joke

unfyour silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot

not an alt u just cant rename tf.tv accounts
/id/fargobawlers

[quote]Its easy to get an awp ace in csgo, happens all the time.[/quote]
no it isnt and no it doesnt.

[quote] When was the last time you saw a fucking sniper get 6 consecutive kills in the same play?[/quote]
your two situations are not even remotely comparable, this goes back to when plat first said that tf2 was "more hype" because 6ks were so much rarer than aces which is just absolutely brain dead logic.

[quote]But you cant deny that having an awp on your team against a team with no awp is a huge advantage and you can't tell me that hitting a walking csgo player is easier than a fucking flying in the air soldier or double jumping scout.[/quote]
something being difficult extends beyond the % chance they hit the shot, the actual activity of awping is what im describing as difficult with all the decisions, risks, timing, and yes flicks
[quote]Sniping is so weak and hard that is is rare to run one full time, yet full time awp is pretty common.[/quote]
again, use!=ease. pyro is rarely used in 6s does that mean it takes a lot of skill
[quote] They are different, each one has its ups and downs, but because of the headshot mechanic i think csgo awping is easier.[/quote]
based on this one thing its harder? in tf2 you can peek for free, you can NEVER peek for free in cs, theres always some risk unless its the start of the round. in tf2 if you set up your angle you NEVER have to worry about being pop flashed. in tf2 when you peek with the sniper rifle you basically NEVER have to worry about being instantly killed (not killed a couple seconds later, i mean essentially at the moment you peek you die)
[quote] Im not saying its the only variable but it definitely is the tipping point. Also aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.[/quote]
ur a joke

[quote=unf]
your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot[/quote]
not an alt u just cant rename tf.tv accounts
/id/fargobawlers
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ulmyxxAlso aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.

this thread was dumb but it went to a whole new level here

[quote=ulmyxx]Also aiming in quake is harder than in tf2 and tf2 is harder than cs and cs is harder than bf4 and bf4 is easier than solitaire. CSGO tbh is more about positioning than aim.[/quote]
this thread was dumb but it went to a whole new level here
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This shit is embarrassing, its like HLTV people talking about TF2 as if they know anything about it

This shit is embarrassing, its like HLTV people talking about TF2 as if they know anything about it
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unffargobawlersi really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot

also not that ranks matter but arent you an AK or badge? pls stop

[quote=unf][quote=fargobawlers]i really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.[/quote]

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot[/quote]

also not that ranks matter but arent you an AK or badge? pls stop
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sometimes when ip lay i think to myself ill buy awp just because ive sniped in tf2 a lot and i sit there while aiming and i think to myself "you can do it clock" so i line it up and often i get the kill cuz ez..

ill explian why its easy: u can shoot the whole body XD simple as that..

anyway.. stop arguing.

sometimes when ip lay i think to myself ill buy awp just because ive sniped in tf2 a lot and i sit there while aiming and i think to myself "you can do it clock" so i line it up and often i get the kill cuz ez..

ill explian why its easy: u can shoot the whole body XD simple as that..

anyway.. stop arguing.
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dummyunffargobawlersi really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot

also not that ranks matter but arent you an AK or badge? pls stop

i have like 40 wins and barely play it

doesnt mean i cant make fun of idiots, whats ur point? pls?

[quote=dummy][quote=unf][quote=fargobawlers]i really dont know why this is difficult for you but the concept of "aim" isnt simple

reaction time and aim are fundamentally linked, to say one game requires more reaction time, and one requires more aim is a misnomer. during the process of aiming you are constantly reacting as the target shifts, the better you are at REACTING to those shifts the better your aim will be.

i would argue that awping is a better demonstration of "raw aim" because its aiming on a single tick, you peek and fire instantly, no corrections. the fundamental skills on display are the same.[/quote]

your silver level is shining through

also nice alt you spineless faggot[/quote]

also not that ranks matter but arent you an AK or badge? pls stop[/quote]

i have like 40 wins and barely play it

doesnt mean i cant make fun of idiots, whats ur point? pls?
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I think it's pretty obvious what my point is, get a brane moran xD

I think it's pretty obvious what my point is, get a brane moran xD
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unfi have like 40 wins and barely play it

doesnt mean i cant make fun of idiots, whats ur point? pls?

^^ taht logic is how george WW BUSh got president XD

sneeze..

sry im allergic to idiot

[quote=unf]
i have like 40 wins and barely play it

doesnt mean i cant make fun of idiots, whats ur point? pls?[/quote]

^^ taht logic is how george WW BUSh got president XD

sneeze..

sry im allergic to idiot
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#75
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you 2 are rubbing each other so hard right now, ex dee memes

you 2 are rubbing each other so hard right now, ex dee memes
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http://memedad.com/memes/496241.jpg

[img]http://memedad.com/memes/496241.jpg[/img]
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http://memedad.com/memes/496243.jpg

[img]http://memedad.com/memes/496243.jpg[/img]
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http://memedad.com/memes/496242.jpg

[img]http://memedad.com/memes/496242.jpg[/img]
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http://memedad.com/memes/496249.jpg

http://memedad.com/memes/496249.jpg
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i appreciate you checking up on me dummy

you can smell my balls too if youd like

i appreciate you checking up on me dummy

you can smell my balls too if youd like
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#81
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can we just agree that CoD is easier than both and discuss sheep in cs:go just as the title of the thread suggests????

can we just agree that CoD is easier than both and discuss sheep in cs:go just as the title of the thread suggests????
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#82
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tf2 sniping is easier than CoD xd

tf2 sniping is easier than CoD xd
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#83
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UR NOT HELPING

UR NOT HELPING
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and this is why we cant have nice things

and this is why we cant have nice things
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Forefatherand this is why we cant have nice things

There will always be debates between people, its a fact of life. Although some debates are completely dumb and pointless they'll always happen. let it be.

[quote=Forefather]and this is why we cant have nice things[/quote]

There will always be debates between people, its a fact of life. Although some debates are completely dumb and pointless they'll always happen. let it be.
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awp v awp is definitely less forgiving than sniper v sniper

full time awping is definitely more viable than full time sniping

sniper needs buff pls.

awp v awp is definitely less forgiving than sniper v sniper

full time awping is definitely more viable than full time sniping

sniper needs buff pls.
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Let's not overlook the whole stand still mechanic which is entirely foreign to TF2 or arena FPS. Sure aiming the shot might be easy, but hitting the shot isn't necessarily easier. There is a bigger target in cs, but more goes into aiming at that target in cs, unless you have the luxury of positioning...but such is the game, and your positional advantage can be taken away with correct teamplay and grenade usage. As Marmaduke just said, Awping is also much less forgiving, in every game snipers are immediate targets, so if you miss your shot you will either die to the enemy awper or be heavily focused to a point where taking a 2nd shot is not an option.

There is certainly a nice cushion of having a large target to 1 hit kill, but it really isn't as easy at that would seem unless you are playing players that aren't that good/have not a clue. Awping in DM, for instance, can be one of the easiest things you do in FPS gaming. This really does not translate at all to the actual game, other than learning the mechanic of stopping to shoot — which isn't that advanced of a skill, but does serve as a barrier to what an awper can do (and can often screw even the best awpers if they fail to account for it).

This thread should have ended at post #43. But if you want my take on it: Sniping in CS:Go is easier to do well with (make an impact with), but certainly not easier. The difference being the nature of the two games.

Let's not overlook the whole stand still mechanic which is entirely foreign to TF2 or arena FPS. Sure aiming the shot might be easy, but hitting the shot isn't necessarily easier. There is a bigger target in cs, but more goes into aiming at that target in cs, unless you have the luxury of positioning...but such is the game, and your positional advantage can be taken away with correct teamplay and grenade usage. As Marmaduke just said, Awping is also much less forgiving, in every game snipers are immediate targets, so if you miss your shot you will either die to the enemy awper or be heavily focused to a point where taking a 2nd shot is not an option.

There is certainly a nice cushion of having a large target to 1 hit kill, but it really isn't as easy at that would seem unless you are playing players that aren't that good/have not a clue. Awping in DM, for instance, can be one of the easiest things you do in FPS gaming. This really does not translate at all to the actual game, other than learning the mechanic of stopping to shoot — which isn't that advanced of a skill, but does serve as a barrier to what an awper can do (and can often screw even the best awpers if they fail to account for it).

This thread should have ended at post #43. But if you want my take on it: Sniping in CS:Go is easier to do well with (make an impact with), but certainly not easier. The difference being the nature of the two games.
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cant believe you cunts have actually dragged on such a stupid argument about what game is harder. it doesnt even matter, they both take a high amount of skill and dedication to play at top level anyway?

cant believe you cunts have actually dragged on such a stupid argument about what game is harder. it doesnt even matter, they both take a high amount of skill and dedication to play at top level anyway?
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marmadukeGRYLLSsniper needs buff pls.

pls make classic viable

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]sniper needs buff pls.[/quote]

pls make classic viable
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I dunno,i feel like this argument is same as telling Messi can be an amazing basketball player. They are different games with differemt skills. Comparing goals which messi did to famous dunks and arguing which is harder to perform is meaningless.

I dunno,i feel like this argument is same as telling Messi can be an amazing basketball player. They are different games with differemt skills. Comparing goals which messi did to famous dunks and arguing which is harder to perform is meaningless.
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