valve should revert demo damage, and then add an attribute where he gets weaker as more friendly demomen join one team. Boom fixes both pubs and competitive.

also, let valve know how silly this is http://valvesoftware.com/email.php

Looking forward to people posting games on gullywash as "proof" that demo is broken. good luck with that last, boys.

So it now takes 14 sticky bombs to kill a wrangled level 3 sentry if you insta-det. Have fun Highlander players.

oh god

Its pretty difficult for any scout to do significant damage when soldiers are sky box high.

the amount of distraction/firepower this thing could potentially draw is pretty interesting to think about though

Nobody in their right mind would do that though. Insta-detting on sentries didn't work because between normal repairing/rescue ranger, you couldn't outdamage healing.

tf_damage_rampup 0

please santa its all i want for christmas

I don't think they actually modified it's base damage. If they didn't change it's base damage then the wrangler is fine (and by fine I mean retarded, but not to the point where it'd be banned in HL).

$5 dollars says they change it back after lan.

The only thing this nerf to demo man did was reinforce the plus forward scout and make last points like gullywash and badlands nearly impossible, stickies on point will be good for the defender but now the pushing team will likely be mulched while waiting for a demo to ensure that the cap. I predict several 0-0 games out of the upcoming lan events.z

not the ideal nerf to me but at least its something

http://imgur.com/JsK5a5k.jpg

This is what pugs have become.

this game isn't even an fps anymore. first it was spycrabs, then sandvich heavies, now half of your team is just dancing.

Anybody know exactly what was changed so I can update my HUD?

I keep the stock HUD updated the best I can here: https://github.com/NULFLO/tf2basehud

actually none of you are willing to give this a chance to pan out huh.

christ.

Did you try plugging it in?

and then rikachu kills everyone

How do you even get the new taunts.

This game is fun again.

You unbox them from the film crate or buy them. So money.

A console command to toggle damage ramp up would literally fix all of this. Cyzer please you need to be our savior again

from store

Wow that is really helpful, thanks a ton man

made a new thread

Seriously, I almost forgot how fun it is to play with new weapons. The new soldier stuff is so incredibly fun. Raining down 7 rapid fire rockets while floating over the enemy med? Oh my god yes.

Other than the over zealous nerf for demos this is probably the best update TF2 has had in quite a long time. It both added a lot of fun to the game BASE Jumper and Taunts included, it nerfed Heavies and Sentries slightly, and it even included some performance upgrades on A LOT of maps.

im all for that, but not with 4 pipes, and not with 500 self damage on those W happy scouts

whoever said above, we should not try to revert changes because we're unable to adapt and evolve. at least until its used for a long while

Performancewise this update was amazing. I was getting frame drops every time I got near to a medic healing gun while healing. Now I'm getting a constant 150 fps in a higher resolution and on directx 9 (used to play on dx8)

In regards, to demoman, I feel this was Valve trying to make a change back to what they intended demoman to be. His stickies were a tool of territorial denial, not necessarily constant damage output. Take a listen to the developer commentary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=-rXp1cFYq_Y#t=273