it's a bit more complicated than you think.
based on our experience from national website and our own playground which is tf2pickup.pl and hl.tf2pickup.pl we've had a lot of trouble with it because it's just not that easy to catch besides obvious cases where someone play some junky shit like direct hit and that person direct misses everything, unwilling to change the weapon therefore throwing for their team

for cases like this on 6s we've banned several weapons, on highlander we've banned for example all demoman shields, i know a lot of 6s sites have done it already, for instance market gardener is banned on tf2pickup.pl, that specific ban is due to a current ETF2L whitelist and so far i think people don't complain much about it in Poland

however this was the easy part of kinda obvious cases, the not obvious cases are where people just play carelessly and it's really hard to assess if someone is trolling, throwing or just bad (like me in 6s),

also mały had in mind people who rather to sandbag than get more experience and play better and again, it's not bad that someone is mediocre in game like me and does not feel keen to get better because obviously it's just a game and not everyone's top life priority, but what really bad is that some people even on the ETF2L try their best to get into the lowest division possible just in order to have easy game and i know mały wants these people out of the site

however by these arguments ELO sounds like a not bad idea, probably worth considering

dude ur beast i notice it on so many fragmovies and now it will be gone

i like that idea a lot, brits aren't a problem, their skills could be assigned manually

hey guys, i think it's a good place to ask, sooooooooooooooooo

we said we want to set up a [hl.]tf2pickup.eu in the future and one of the biggest struggles we have is that our EU community is basically fucking huge (at least 1k+ gamers for 6v6, probably a half of it would be highlander gamers (it's a crazy estimate btw)), compared to the national pickups where local communities have something between 50-200 gamers

at the current state of the tf2pickup.org project the site admin staff sets up "skills" which are reflection of the player's skill on a certain class, one value per class where off-classes on 6s aren't counted and it's a moderate task for a group of 5-10 people to balance the skills for players in order to make pickups balanced and enjoyable
these groups are i'd say mostly built from higher tier gamers + a few low gamers in order to know how to balance gamers from low-open

i think it's safe to say that balancing games even for a group of 20-30 people while having 1k+ people community would be a nightmare, so we thought of some prediction system which could help admins balance pickups easier where the prediction system is supposed as a help for an admin and where the admin can override some prediction "skill" values if they think it can be adjusted better

mały's initial idea was to make some sort of AI which could learn player's performance from all his logs (from the gamemode they play) and predict his performance on certain classes...but i'm not quite sure if that would be the best idea

another idea on the other hand would be utilizing trends.tf if they had some sort of api letting it check the player ratio and stuff, trends.tf in general is a piece of good statistical work

the simpliest system for balancing i could find (and the most broken one) is the one which is used in the tf2center chrome plugin/tf2stars where it checks the player's ETF2L/UGC current division or division from the last season and based on that gives an assessment if the player is good or bad on let's say 10 point system where one star out of five is 2 points

one huge note: we ain't making any captain based system https://docs.tf2pickup.org/docs/faq#why-no-captain-based-system so don't ask for it
reasons? people getting constantly fatkidded and simply preventing from having circlejerks destroying the site

ok and now it's a time for my question: what do you think would be the most reliable balancing system? is it one of these i mentioned above? or maybe you have a better idea? please tell us what would be the best idea in your opinion so we could start tf2pickup.eu and hl.tf2pickup.eu in 2022

it's not dead, i can open it now but the problem in general is that the site lags in some random moments where if the logs.tf reaches a certain amount of time, it hits the timeout and the logs are not sent

i bet i'm not the first person asking for this, but if zoob is unwilling to devlop the code of the logs.tf, maybe he could make the source code open and let people who actually care about this game do something with it?

i bet his ad revenue is neat but the site is laggy and there are things to improve such us stuff mentioned in this thread or for example adding heals from crossbow to the general medic heal stats

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jamuLPfQibU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFcPgNVI_gU

what do they do actually? can you explain how to actually use it?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/305762898427510785/878399564476973126/unknown.png

i think it's worth noting that they're getting strategy protips, maptalks and demo reviews from wonder
https://etf2l.org/forum/user/879/

how long did it take to tame him so he's not afraid of you and your gf?
also best thread he's lovely <3

thanks to the bot owners these disconnect reasons are removed from the game because these bots were abusing it by inserting links to their bot chats or spamming nwords when they've been getting kicked out from the casual server :(

a few breaks:
- my pc broke,
- got to gradute from uni,
- i lost motivation to play since i prioritize playing with friends over getting the best possible team no matter what and they decided to part their ways

were you alone with this problem? i was wondering if it's worth getting a rental or getting my own laptop since i can't imagine taking my full size pc to an airplane

is there anything else i need to take onboard like ethernet cables?
also, i was told that some players were bored by having not much games after getting knocked out from the competition, how is it in the reality? i bet i will join some low 6s team or won't join any at all and i was looking if there are some options other than watching invite games onsite

i bet revolut is a good option to consider then, they have very good exchange rates in general and i felt a noticeable difference by paying for stuff in France and Germany with their card vs my bank card
also revolut gives visa cards :)))))))

that's actually a good protip, use ubuntu linux live cd, work on it for like a day (i bet you won't play tf2 on it but you surely can use browser and stuff and see if the problem persists)
you don't have to install linux on your drive, it's enough if you have it on your pendrive

if you don't have a usb stick, get it it's very cheap and i bet it's worth taking for your case
8/16 GB is defo enough

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