d*mn those invite players who want to play lan and who have the AUDACITY to admit such a horrific goal in the light of day !!!

you're getting -fragged because you support the league that's run by scam artists and thieves hope this helps

i have a tattoo of an owl on my leg thats how i picked my alias for this game :)

you see i used to work at this summer camp and all the counselors there had to have 'nature' names and the name that was given to me was owl because when i was a kid i was a dork and read a lot of books and stuff so they thought i was smart so after workign there a few years i got the tattoo but then when i got my teaching job i realized what a mistake it was because now i can't wear shorts to work when its warm outside :(

I'm not sure if you have me mistaken for someone else but I've been a CEVO supporter from the beginning. I have at least three friends who play CS and had parts replaced from their computer so I know first hand how evil ESEA is.

What? That's not a very funny thing to joke about :(

That's the prerogative of the players, not the league. You can't blame CEVO when they offer everything that's needed to foster high level TF2, besides a LAN (and we've talked that to death anyways). If players don't want to take the better league seriously, then maybe TF2 deserves to die. I don't mean to be harsh here, but it really just comes down to the players realizing that they need to learn to love CEVO and that it's far better than ESEA ever could have been.

Honestly, I'm glad ESEA is dead. The company is corrupt through and through and even if we're going into uncharted territory with this whole CEVO thing, it has to be better than what we've had so far. So far all I've seen is that community icons like Lange and Nahanni are willing to step in and dedicate their time and money to the cause, and CEVO simply has a better product than ESEA, LAN or not. If teams like Mix^ can't see that, then it's their loss and they're giving up this great game for a corrupt piece-of-cr*p company with a shady owner and ineffective admins.

So far, the CEVO matches have been pretty much flawless, and with all the improvements they've been making it's sure to get even better. I look forward to this new era of TF2 and I know the rest of you guys are too!

Good luck and see you on the battlefield, guys. Should be a great season in both CEVO-O and CEVO-M. :)

I'm just glad that my honest question was answered and I'm very happy that CEVO implemented match stats and stv downloads for their league participants :)

what about the part where the server was stuck on 2fort for 20 minutes before matchtime or the fact that somehow someone was allowed to post twitch plays pokemon as the official match stream or the pings of the other team or any of that

:)

Thanks. I honestly did not know that those were things (besides the prize pool, I knew that I guess) that the community had to convince CEVO to implement. Seems to me like they're all pretty basic parts of running a competitive league but it's awesome that they were willing to implement those things when people asked for them.

What has CEVO done with its feedback? You're just spouting bullshit about how this thread is stupid and people are just running around saying the same things over and over but I'm just straight up asking you to at least pretend like you're saying something true and not just making up shit like "people see CEVO was listening the entire time, ESEA supporters panic" because that's sure as hell not what happened here.

Maybe I'm totally wrong and CEVO has done things based on community input but until you can give me some examples of that I'm going to continue assuming that you're just making shit up.

I have a question for synchro especially but I guess any CEVO disciples around

What exactly has CEVO done in terms of listening to its community that ESEA has not? I'm honestly curious, because as far as I can tell the only real polls they've had were an invite poll, a whitelist poll, and a "how many matches per week" poll in which they didn't even pick the option that the majority voted for.

Like it's great and all that we're talking about how active the CEVO admins are and shit but they haven't actually done anything based on community opinion they've just done things and the CEVO fans have rallied behind those decisions.

In the end I think we're trading in real competition, a LAN, and a company with a time-tested infrastructure for 10 bucks a player per season and some healing stats attached to some names that players like and I just don't understand why. The "ESEA is a shitty company" argument doesn't really hold water because the last time we saw CEVO they were a pretty shitty company too and at best they're unproven. Are healing stats or celebrity endorsements worth that much to you guys?

I'm just trying to understand why people who actually care about getting better (and I realize that that does not include every TF2 player) would cripple their ability to do so.

What kind of shoes are you wearing right now

Where do you do your grocery shooping

I just hope that everyone who is leaving ESEA is also boycotting WalMart, McDonald's, Nike, and every other corporation with morally bankrupt business tactics, just so your delusions of helping the world are at least internally consistent.

I'm not the one who said esea robbed the tf2 community

Like I said, I have no problem with your decision to leave esea because of bad business practices, but the honest truth is that the bitcoin mining did not have an impact on people who play tf2 on esea.