Everything in rando's post still applies and still makes the QF dumb af
you still have to run it at 100% of mid fights, which alone is dumb because the ubers are so bad you can't actually do like anything with them so you end up with a stalemate

I think it's a little narrow minded to think that the ONLY reason people don't want to play with these weapons is because they don't want to put in the effort to learn new things

nobody at the top is scrimming with this shit because of LAN
I would like to have a whitelist meeting that doesn't involve a delusional megalomaniac trying to unban every broken item in the game and also has fair representation from all regions.

who the FUCK thought it was a good idea to unban QUICK FIX and POMSON and SODA POPPER
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
my team 100% won't play with this shit
edit: on a side note I didn't even fuckign know there was a meeting about unlocks until someone WHO DOESNT PLAY THE GAME ANYMORE told me today
??? ???

getawhale is on mic right now

I'll probably try and iron out a roster this weekend but there will more than likely be something

mana retired
FORUM CHAOS

because people take things personally and because individual people should be responsible for things they say/do

wow.
I can't actually think of anyone I've met who acts more entitled than b4nny is right now

on a note slightly more related to the topic,
most of the weapons were banned because they were terribly designed for this game. Valve has proven many times they have no idea what makes tf2 fun (demo nerf, med update, scouts, gunboats, badlands, ettcccc). If comp tf2 was in its current state when I started playing, I would not play it.

The current number of items that are unbanned is quite significantly too large. weapons like the rescue ranger, natascha, tomislav, sandwich, machina, jarate all do a little small part in "slowing down the game" and making lasts even harder to push and rewarding the "b4nny" playstyle of just waiting for your opponent to fuck up when it clearly shouldn't be in addition to just being plain, boring, uninteresting weapons. on a quick note: variety != good/fun design

I will also say that if there is no whitelist next season or it gets smaller, I have no doubt the people I plan to play with next season will want to play even less.

The only reason people play this game now is for fun, no one really cares whether or not "tf2 becomes big" obviously there is an exception with b4nny who seems to think because he's so damn good at this game he should get paid just like other people who have mastered their game/trade.

news flash: world don't work like that

tf2 players are able to have weird aim because you don't really need to track, most "normal" aim is done by tracking with some flicks but in tf2 you're able to aim entirely off of flicks so it's weird

if metalworks was more colorful I would probably actually enjoy playing it

pce homie

I played on a cooler once

oh well merry christmas zheep thanks for doing this for somebody

thaigrr and funs :thinking:

also there should be an option to make all projectiles fire from the center of the screen