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#80 Crossbow is still dumb in TF2 General Discussion
ComangliaPeteComangliaYou probably don't get to experience the dumbest parts of the crossbow that often since you're playing in Invite for the most part you're never going to find a demo/soldier to close to choke with barely anything or nothing loaded at all, but in open and occasionally IM that shit happens all the fucking time.
in absolutely no world should any video game be balanced around the 2nd and 3rd from the top tier of gameplay. like it actually kinda blows my mind that you said the dumbest part of the crossbow doesn't happen that often in invite and continued to think it was a valid argument.

like valve can be stupid and balance based on pubs or be smart and balance based on invite but jesus why would they even care what is happening in open and IM

It blows my mind that people actual think that just because it isn't a problem for invite doesn't mean it isn't a problem.

How often do Invite players use mind blowingly retarded positioning and unload all of their shots? Basically never. Doesn't change the fact the Crossbow nullifies that absolute massive blunder. It can be done in Invite, but realistically if it's being done consistently in Invite you have a teammate who probably shouldn't be in Invite.

The Logic is as follows
Crossbow rectifies poor decision making.
Invite players usually don't make poor decisions.
Thus Invite players rarely see the crossbow rectifying a poor decision.

another good comparison

Malicious Activity the team in IM right now. Has at least 1 person cheating in scrims and probably matches. If they were to ever scrim an Invite team it wouldn't matter because the Invite team would have significantly better decision making and team play, but just because this cheater wouldn't be a problem for Invite teams/players DOESN'T MEAN IT ISN'T A PROBLEM.

The reason invite players think 'it isn't a problem' is because the tools exist in game for you to go kill that guy and it's not the fault of the game for your failure. IT WAS JUST YOU. So there's no balance that needs to be done there because otherwise you're just limiting the game for the sake of bad play, which does not result in a good game with fun mechanics and a lot of depth.

Your point about malicious activity has to do with the people that play the game and NOT how the game functions.
So not really a good comparison but yes that is a huge problem if someone is cheating

posted about 7 years ago
#6989 stream highlights in Videos

https://clips.twitch.tv/ShortTalentedHorseradishJebaited
https://clips.twitch.tv/SpeedyFancyBaguetteOSkomodo

posted about 7 years ago
#38 Crossbow is still dumb in TF2 General Discussion

removing xbow would nerf the shit out of soldier which is really not necessary

if someone is damaged and has to get bowed then shoot the people who would otherwise be getting tanked because the crossbow can't heal buffs (and a team with buffs vs team without buffs is a huge difference)

it also gives medic solo carry potential which the class desperately needed

it doesn't slow down the game at all, fights actually end even faster because you have to get onto weak teams quickly so they can't heal and in transitions people reach max health faster because of it

also if the person you were fighting got crossbowed, you got outplayed. if you're angry about that, that's like being angry that someone directed you

posted about 7 years ago
#147 its back in TF2 General Discussion

ban laser gun 2018

posted about 7 years ago
#10 Crossbow is still dumb in TF2 General Discussion

I fully disagree with lucrative

posted about 7 years ago
#118 its back in TF2 General Discussion
Daffodil-This is my opinion about updating the whitelist. I want the whitelist to be as opened up as possible for a couple reasons.

Firstly, anything that rewards game knowledge and good usage of alternative strategies is something that I see as desirable. If a player is able to use unique strategies with a balanced unlock then that is something that shouldn't be stopped just because we can't update a whitelist for over a year. Imagine the timeline where we banned the conch or whatever. I am sure there are some people out there thinking "I wish" but I think that would be quite the loss.

Secondly, I don't think playing with all unlocks will "give us a major" but I DO think that keeping a well maintained whitelist gives the team at valve good data to look at when doing balance passes. This game isn't gonna blow up and become a esport even if valve endorses it, but it can always be improved and everybody here seems to just have the most pessimistic and shitty views despite that.

Our decisions about the whitelist should not be motivated by things we think valve could be doing. It's not the place of the community to do a dance so that the developers do stuff. Even if we were to ban dumb unlocks completely that would still give valve data, as it did for years, that there is something wrong with the weapons even if they're not overpowered. We don't only have to ban things because they break the game or are just straight up better.

Having said that

I don't think anyone gives a shit about any of these bans aside from cow mangler
and in what you've described your view to be implies that it probably should be banned

It completely removes ammo management and just adds spam to the game, which the game doesn't need.
The only place that cow mangler adds and "alternative strategy" is charge shotting the doorway people walk into mid, which is not actually alternative because you should be doing it every time and all the other team has to do is make sure their medic doesn't get hit by it because no one else should really be getting hit by it either. Hitting charge shots does not take skill, it does not take game knowledge and it is not an alternative strategy. On top of all this, getting essentially randomly hit by a charge shot is not fun at all and as much as some people like to think, that's actually a pretty good reason to have it be banned.

Like I said I don't think people really care about most of the items. From what it seems a lot of people are annoyed cow mangler is unbanned because it's just a dumb weapon with a dumb mechanic but also about the process by which all of this was unbanned which did not represent the community and was not a fair process towards the people playing in the league.

posted about 7 years ago
#15 SVIFT EU in TF2 General Discussion

having to play qualifiers is not going to stop people from making new teams

posted about 7 years ago
#52 its back in TF2 General Discussion

lol
the preseason invite meeting that only people you bothered to message knew about

posted about 7 years ago
#7 its back in TF2 General Discussion

please remove thank you

posted about 7 years ago
#68 ESEA Season 29 Invite Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion
glitturebotmode team looking like it's highfive slemnish scouts botmode delpo soldiers campy demo zilly medic

delpo demo laz soldier

posted about 7 years ago
#50 ESEA Season 29 Invite Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion
trippabl4nk botmode broking kawa pelt mason pogchamp!!!

miles and miles and miles better than that

posted about 7 years ago
#46 ESEA Season 29 Invite Happenings/Discussion in TF2 General Discussion
GrapeJuiceIII10 hours left what’s happening

a lot

posted about 7 years ago
#11 ESEA New Prizing Structure in TF2 General Discussion
AluminatiWe will also be flattening the prize structure in the Invite division so that all teams that finish the season will receive some prize money in a style similar to the ESL Pro League for CS:GO.

this is a bit awesome for lower invite teams

posted about 7 years ago
#6392 Frag Clips Thread in Videos

not tf2 but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoAmuBo2fJo&feature=youtu.be

posted about 7 years ago
#12 ESEA S28 GF: froyotech vs. Ascent in Matches
highfivelet me zilly and purple cast this

let me in on this

posted about 7 years ago
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