nobody else has the koth design autism quite like i do

im not going to do that

Went for option B based on feedback.

Download: koth_bagel_rc8

Screenshots of the new main detailing

Changelog:
-Modified capzone slightly to reduce accidentally jumping out of it at the edges
-Simplified some geometry above lobby
-Altered detailing in main to be more distinct per side

Ahh, that's an unintended consequence of intended behaviour. There's some jank set up to stop players capping on the barrels.
In retrospect, letting players cap on the barrels isn't a huge issue, but there is a question on how to fix it.

Currently, players leave the low capzone at the edges when jumping, making capping there feel inconsistent.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055714864284323941/1164150541216120892/image.png

Option A: Raise it to platform level, only preventing cap when high enough to stand on platform.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055714864284323941/1164150541581041735/image.png

Option B: Raise it only to just above barrel height, allowing capping on barrel unless the capper jumps.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055714864284323941/1164150541962711090/image.png

Personally, I find Option A more consistent, but I would prefer feedback before I push an update.

Spotted a missing beam at mid and got bothered enough by it to come back and make some more updates, mostly focused on making the house interiors more distinct from each other.

Download: koth_bagel_rc7

Screenshots of new house interiors

Changelog:
-redesigned house interiors to be more distinct (collisions are unaltered)
-fixed visual bug at mid
-added smooth collisions to a nook in yard

TF2Maps is having some server issues at the moment but hopefully this download still works.

https://i.imgur.com/1obhj8k.png

Download:koth_bagel_rc6

Changelog:
-Slight gameplay change to yard, exits are now slightly more physically separated by cover.
-Misc. detail improvements
-Added occluders in some key areas, which should help optimisation

As usual, please let me know if I fucked it up! I'm unlikely to update this map again otherwise.

Yo, it's almost been a year, what's the vibes? Was the map better before, or was the change a success?

It's this, changes like this are a 10 second thing, I've requested similar before.
(I didn't request this one myself but I am gonna use it lol)

sounds like what they fixed was outright spoofing steamids, allowing people to appear as though they were on your friends list etc

This, the DF thing and Heavy not being properly stunned were requests I made while working on Halloween stuff

getting airshot is something cool the other player did, not something bad you did

If it ends up being a mistake I can revert it, hoping y'all play it in the offseason and see how it feels

RC5 Update
Pics:

Download: koth_bagel_rc5

rc5 changelog
-changed attacker spawn wave times from 2s to 4s
-changed spawnpoint order to match product_final's
-altered interior detailing in both houses at mid to be more visually distinct from one another
-added small ammo kits to mid
-added spectator cameras to lobby
-fixed announcer not counting down to/announcing control point unlock
-fixed wrap assassin bug in all spots i could
-fixed clipping in some spots
-tried to fix esoteric sound bug, god knows if it worked
-some beams in spawn are now nonsolid to make rollout easier
-misc. detail polish

also could RGL etc. please update the pic they use for bagel everywhere, its like 4 years old and i spent all this time making the map look good :(

In light of some moments in the RGL grand finals, I'm interested to know popular opinion on if the attacker spawns should be lengthened, or if they're considered just a quirk of the map to play around

god its not even the finished version of that map, and they left the dev textures in
( https://tf2maps.net/downloads/arena-1p32471.8005/ ftr they didn't even ask permission to use it)