Let's put it this way memphis.

You work out in the yard one day, maybe it's a bit too hot, but you're a young strapping lad. Now yo go inside, but in your unfortunate heat-altered mental state, you become belligerent. A neighbor calls the police on you because you're behaving erratically. Now in your altered mental state, you fail to follow directions. Now, by your logic, you should be dead.

This is disgusting. I hope you see that.

So Memphis you mean to imply that putting your hands on a police officer is a crime worthy of the death penalty? Or mayhaps, one arm wielding a pen at them? Because if it's not, I fail to see what you're adding here.

It's not hard to see that the whole point here, is that it's *far* too easy for police officers to kill people and then go on being cops. It's *very* rare that one secures a conviction - even in a case as laughable as gunning down a 1 armed guy in a wheel chair.

Cherry, look at a newspaper - or any other news media of your choosing, local papers are the best, particularly from urban areas. People are *regularly* shot for making sudden or unexpected movements. You could also consult live-leak or any other such video sites that carry videos of people being shot for literally no reason other than sudden motion. I won't link the videos because they show people being murdered, but one particular example was the case of John Crawford, who was holding a toy gun in a store, jumped (startled by a man with a gun pointed at him screaming DROP THE WEAPON) and was murdered. Or the example of Levar Edward Jones who was shot because he suddenly reached for his wallet when asked to provide identification - luckily for Mr. Jones he wasn't killed - he was only shot a few times.

Normally, I'm fairly calm with the police, as I said, I've been arrested before. *NEVER* has a gun been pulled on me, ever. The MP that caught me on the base had it in his hands (off of his shoulder) but he never positioned himself in such a way as to immediately kill me. Even when I was doing things that were actually criminal - when a gun is in your face - and having at least a passing knowledge that other people have been murdered or seriously injured in such situations, you can't help but be in fear for your life - particularly when you're just minding your own damn business.

In fact a simple google search shows that roughly 400 people are killed by police "justifiably" per year, in other words more than 1 person every single day. http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2014/11/24/fbi-reports-27-cops-were-killed-last-year-but-how-many-civilians-were-killed-by-officers/

I mean let's just step back for a moment and remember that this is a thing that happened: http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/23/us/texas-amputee-shooting/index.html

You read that right. They shot a pen wielding, one armed, wheel-chair bound double amputee because he clearly presented a deadly threat - also the police officer who killed him was not indicted by a grand jury, and was found to have committed no wrong doing. He's still working as a police officer today.

Not_a_worthless_fuck.exe I like to think :D

Story time.

Time #1.

I was at an Iraq war protest, and accidentally stumbled onto a military base. We were protesting outside of the base, and I guess I looked the part of a guy who should be in the military and it was one of those bases that was 1/2 town, 1/2 military base. After I realized what had happened, I attempt to extract myself from the base before anybody noticed because I had a feeling I wasn't really supposed to be where I was, and saying I'd gone for a site seeing tour probably wouldn't work. Unfortunately, somebody with a gun noticed that I was pretty lost. SO, long story short. I got the gun pointed at me, and then, luckily, they didn't arrest me, and escorted me off the base with some friends - then they invited me to enlist if I quit being a "hippy".

The second time was only a few weeks ago. I was sitting in my car, texting, waiting on my child's mother to drop him off after her weekend with him (we meet in a grocery store parking lot). I was in the process of sending her a text to find out why she was so late, when I noticed a distinct blue-berry and cherry themed light show going on. I look out my window to see what had happened, and the guy hadn't been using his siren, and had his gun drawn on me sitting in my car. Luckily for me, I'm white, so when I jumped, due to being startled, he didn't instantly end me. He yelled at me to get out of the car *now*. I did so. He directed me to lean against the back of the car. Of course, the thought going through my mind, as a person whose been arrested a few times, is that this is decidedly less courteous than my previous experiences. So, as he was code-talking into his radio, I said "did I forget my turn signal, or was it my less-than-immaculate parking job?" He looked at me irritatedly, and went back to code talking with one hand on the radio and the other on his gun.

Then he said "where is XXX Jones" and I said "who?" and he looked at me in a very frustrated way. He then said "your passenger!" I said "I literally haven't left my house in 2 days, and I drove here by myself" he then said "so you don't know any xxx Jones?" and I said "I've never heard the name before in my life." So he asks if I have any ID. I tell him it's in the console of my car, and tell him he's welcome to get it if he would like, or I could get it exceedingly slowly.

I decided to do a slow motion license grab, and then handed it to him. At this point he looks extremely confused. He says "Do we have anything on a (my name)?" He looks at me and says "you have any reason to think you've got some warrants out on you?" I respond, "I hope not - I just play video games and read most days." His dispatcher informs him that I'm not the one he's looking for, and that he pulled over (I was parked but hey, she couldn't have known) the wrong car.

He then apologized no less than 3 times. He then noticed my last name, which happens to be a privileged name in this part of the Indiana, and apologized once more. I asked what the deal was.

He said that there had just been a bank robbery, and somebody had reported the get away car as being rather similar to the car I was driving, but that he'd obviously made a mistake somewhere along the line. Then he got back in his car, drove across the street to a restaurant, and watched me for the next 20 minutes. The aforementioned bank robbers are still at large. But thankfully our brave patrolman was hot on the trail of watching me do nothing in my car irritatedly waiting for 20 minutes.

Thankfully, baby momma' was incredibly late so my son wasn't subjected to seeing me held at gun point.

No bopper, police forces around the world have rules of engagement particularly so that their citizens don't get killed when it isn't necessary. The only people that're going to fix Ferguson are the folks living in Ferguson, the important thing for everybody else is how we can collectively fix our hardly accountable pseudo-military. Attempting to justify a killing by "well he's trained to shoot to kill" "he got punched what else should he do" are exactly the sort of statements that aid and abet the overuse of deadly force.

If you decided to escalate the situation by going in by yourself, and stepping out of the vehicle to give chase, alone, then you could also simply aim your gun in such a way so as not to shoot somebody in the head twice. Numerous police forces around the world have rules of engagement dictating that shots must be fired at or into the lower body *first* and that the police officer *must* demonstrate that they attempted to do that before moving to the upper body. Even the IDF (technically less of a police force and more of a military occupation force) has such rules.

His back up arrived 10 seconds after the shooting Turin - it's also very difficult, last I checked, to outrun a car. But meh, fuck it, just shoot him 7 times. Luckily for me, every time I've had a gun drawn on me (which would be twice now) the officer has had the common courtesy not to bust uncontrollably on me.

2 words. Gas pedal. The point is police resort to deadly force far more often than they should because they *know* it's unlikely that they'll be held accountable. This isn't an isolated incident. Furthermore, his back up arrived, according to the prosecutor, roughly 10 seconds after the last shot. So it was entirely avoidable.

UKM, when did robbery warrant the death penalty? I think I must've missed some legislation somewhere.

A few relatively easy fixes that could come out of this:

1. The *easiest* fix out of this would be to make personal cameras mandatory for every police officer who can respond to calls and every patrolman. The patrolmen already typically have cameras on their dash board, so it's not a huge leap. It's already been made abundantly clear that departments who utilize the simple personal camera on their police officers have a reduced tendency to commit crimes against the general population, and typically resort to deadly force far less often. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/04/california-police-body-cameras-cuts-violence-complaints-rialto

2. Police offices are increasingly corrupt. You would be hard pressed not to find a department who hasn't been scandalized by the misbehavior of some officer who is *still* on the force. Sometimes such officers end up costing communities millions of dollars and *still* keep their jobs: http://www.suntimes.com/news/otherviews/17612783-452/police-corruption-cant-be-ignored.html#.VHUD3clLx8E

To quote that Chicago Sun-Times "The problem of police corruption is not caused by occasional flawed police officers or “bad apples.” Rather, the apple barrel is rotten. Too many police officers violate citizens’ rights, engage in corruption and commit crimes while avoiding discipline or prosecution."

The personal cameras would certainly cut down on such corruption, but the simple fact of the matter is, is that for many people, the police are sacro-sanct. The Michael Brown case highlights that - there were numerous people who came to the defense of Officer Wilson *immediately* because they've convinced themselves that every police officer is a quasi-holy person. Harsher penalties need to be meted out on those officers who violate peoples rights, engage in corruption, and violate the law.

3. This is in part why people are so incensed by the failure of the grand jury to bring charges against officer Wilson. It is *incredibly* rare for a grand jury not to suggest going forward with a case, so clearly police-hero-worship certainly had to play a role, because I fail to see how, robbery, and assaulting a police officer demands the death penalty. https://news.yahoo.com/ferguson-federal-grand-jury-indictment-statistics-history-134942645.html

Ok let me set something up here.

This isn't about Michael Brown. His unfortunate death, and the unfortunate things that've been borne out of it have a lot less to do with the j-walking committed by a black youth and the poor decisions he made while j-walking and a lot more to do with the over all fear being put into people, particularly people of color, around the country by law enforcement.

In much the same way Rosa Parks was not the first black person to refuse to give up his or her seat on a bus, Michael brown is not the first, or even the last person, to be shot to death by police for crimes that do not warrant the death penalty.

In most cases of yet another youth misbehaving and getting shot as a result, nobody would've cared, and likely there were better candidates for this campaign than Michael Brown, but for whatever reason his death is the one that touched off solidarity campaigns and started serious discussions about policing, profiling, the use of force and the employment deadly force throughout this country.

This whole thing is about a *lot* more than the unfortunate death of Michael Brown, that much should be painfully obvious.

Here you are tooni: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6434Qs0Xli4&list=UUyTtw_807P3-mQW-gjADPhg

So far I've only managed to watch a handful of Cavaliers and Pacers games.

I opted to watch the cavs because I'd not really seen Lebron play (I stopped following basketball in HS - but now I have spare time lol). Kevin love was fairly hyped up. But overall their play is really uninspired, lax offense, god-awful, shameful defense.

The Indiana pacers though, they're heroes. A bunch of no name guys take down the heat? Take down the Bulls (sans their best player - but still!). They can't shoot particularly well as a team, but they at least run something that resembles an offense, and their defense is, with a few games being exceptions, really great to watch. Man to man as t was meant to be.

Will do - it'll pry be 3-4 days before it gets uploaded. Tonight is johnnes #2, then the next is some other fellow who sent me a demo, and then you will be the next night.