Flame I wish I could upfrag you twice for that post, I could never find the exact words to explain it to others like that. But overall it's true.
From the perspective of people that want to play OW/casual shooter: They probably just want some randomass fun-looking shooter with crazy abilities/etc. and think it will be amazing.
From the perspective of people that have played FPS and etc. for years: The game is a complete mess of an FPS.

When it comes to FPS, you have to be careful on what you add to it, how much you add to it, and what you add/remove to it. I feel that OW added too much, there's many different things and variety you could do, which may seem like a great thing, but then it just becomes a mess at some point and you have to try to balance all these things which can be difficult. This is another reason why we should be a bit more grateful to the TF2 devs, in the way they release new weapons/balance them, they try to be careful on what they do before making the action. OW is pretty much a TF2 pub mess times 3. The game has already went downhill in general with the confusion with the community and it's pricetag, and who they had let into the beta.

It truly is a shame that it has be this way, but it's Blizzard. The game will still be somewhat popular and decently stay alive just because it is a Blizzard game and people who will never learn or realize these things will continue playing it. Blizzard just seems to have this trend in their games that somehow mess up balance or certain aspects of the games. They've always had the potential and ability to change these things, but they tend to refuse to. Valve is always listening and willing to adapt and change. They frequently update their games and make changes when needed. Blizzard tends to hesitate despite a majority of the community complaining and telling them something is wrong. Blizzard does eventually follow up on these, but takes a long ass time to do so, or never do so at all. A more recent example would be in SC2 with the Adepts and Pylon Overcharged.

Overall, Blizzard is just a greedy company trying to get as much money as possible from OW. Now while it is obvious that companies will always try to get a profit, Blizzard has tend to take a lot of money and not put effort into their games afterwards. Valve has shown to put effort and making our games worth playing and valued through time and time again. Also I have no idea how this thread turned into OW.

Not to discourage, but we've had a couple of these servers and they have tend to fail. I for one actually do support these and try to join when I can, but overall nobody joins them enough. I will try my best to join this one when I can as I have always loved map rotation servers with old maps. I would recommend having 20 minutes as the server time limit, so people won't feel they are too bored with one map and can get to play more maps faster. Pretty good mapcycle you have already.

Honestly, if they had gotten rid of the purchase from the store clause, then this would have been enough really without the need for mobile authentication, but that wouldn't be enough players. They could've made it for people who purchased TF2 or made a purchase from the store prior to 2012 at the most, one year after F2P. But it is a shame that they had to put up that mobile requirement, it's a bit unnecessary. Just making it where you can only have 1 phone number associated with the account is enough. Unless people with alts are crazy enough to use their family's phone numbers...

girlfriend, amazing pizza chef, and super strong and athletic that plays rugby.
Too out of this world for me. I envy you man, also please answer cookiejake's question.

Just to elaborate on why melee isn't hardest and Quake and SC are probably the hardest:
SC takes tons, if not, probably the most in terms of multitasking in a competitive game. It requires:
High knowledge(there is A LOT to know), High responses, High APM(or speed in general of playing), multitasking of macro and micro to the core, and mistakes can become very punishing.
I'm not saying melee doesn't have a lot of those, but I'd definitely say it doesn't require as much multitasking. In the end it becomes "choose a field, two players choose a character, fight". I can understand that you have to somewhat have the field memorize and know certain spots to know about, while also knowing about the enemy character in general and aspects of it. But most players at the highest level already know about that and have it embedded by the time the match starts, so what's left is actually playing the match, movement, predicting your opponent, techs, DI's, and etc. But the thing is, is that the players are pretty much able to completely focus in that one battle between two characters, and don't have much else to worry about.

Quake on the other hand may have you think "Well, Quake is just the same thing but in FPS!". Quake is a lot different from a 2D-like fighter game. Quake requires aim(important), movement(in a different way from melee), knowledge(this knowledge is different), predictions, hearing(hear item pickups/weapon sounds/movement), and one of the most important: item timings. Item timings are absolutely important to keep an advantage in the game and ensuring you are able to withstand enemy damage. Quake has a need for aim(which is somewhat hard already at high levels), hearing, and item timings, and just those 2 last things somewhat add more to the knowledge part of quake that makes the game harder.

Don't misunderstand me though, I would definitely agree that Melee and maybe SF are the most skilled and hardest fighting games, but in terms of games overall? I wouldn't say it's the hardest. If I'm missing anything about melee that should be mentioned, feel free to post as I don't delve a lot into melee. Also I tried using some main aspects of each game to explain this rather than specifics(this post would be even longer). I still respect melee as a game being up there though.

If we're talking about games that have been well known as eSports or part of eSports history then:
Quake
StarCraft
CS 1.6
Melee
Street Fighter(3?)

As for state of eSports right now:
Dota 2
StarCraft 2

I'd say these are generally the "hardest", in the end it's mainly the old games from then that took a lot of skill. It's a shame that most games played nowadays cannot compare as much to what it was like.

Don't worry, it's also the same for most of their mice. The very few things to love about Razer is probably just color and features but in the end they are just like Apple or some other expensive popular brand.

Please repost in this thread if you are one of the 50% that gets the doubleclick issue so we can all have a giggle.

So fucking NEAT. I love he brought the camera with him for most of it as if he was recording it too.

I've owned both a Razer and Zowie so far.
I've had the Razer Deathadder 3.5G for about 3 years? The shape was great and the mouse4 and mouse5 was nicely big, but I ended up with the cursed double click problem, and so did 2 of my other friends on Razer Deathadder Chromas. Imagine just trying to highlight this sentence, it'd highlight and then go away instantly like half the time. It was also a horror for me in StarCraft 2 since I just wanted to select a single worker and it'd select all of them and I had already made the move action... I have one other friend and have heard of others that had no problems with it for about 3 years also though. I feel that when you get a deathadder, you have a 50% chance of it having something wrong with it. The sensor was great and the feel was great, but the doubleclick issue is just unacceptable.
I recently got the Zowie FK1 and it's been amazing. No drivers, adjustable DPI on the bottom of the mouse, simple design, hard distinct clicks, and the sensor has been known to be very good. The only problem I found out was it's low Lift off distance but I was using a TF2 mousepad with multiple colors, using a complete black mousepad works amazing with it as I used the Steelseries qck. I also feel the zowie mice are also durable and don't get dirty as easily as Razer's.
I highly recommend Zowie over Razer any day.

Oh god today is suddenly a great day, thought it gave up trying to get on steam but dreams do come true.

I think this was after the Gun Mettle Update, which added skins to game. It probably required the gun to use a high LOD in order for the skin to be shown in such high quality.

A blog I found that is relevant to the chrome extension and about Delta:
http://bartblaze.blogspot.com.au/2016/01/chrome-extension-empties-your-steam.html

There are people who scam in the world a couple of times and they are scum. Delta's continuation and ongoing intention with this is going past the scum-level.

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Reminder that in the end, the quality of the pizza will just depend where you live/get your pizza at. Domino's may be bad where you are but it can be good in other places. Same goes to any other pizza brand. Domino's is pretty good down in my area in TX it seems and is considered cheap also.