peerc rewop

yea dmax will have to be banned, there is literally nothing to beat dmax gyara. even scarf ditto loses sometimes because if you dynamax with your scarf you lose the speed in exchange for being able to change moves

choice scarf gorilla tactics darmanitan is straight up busted

LMAO why give that thing dragon dance

yea giving nec ddance is a fuckin horrid idea

also i came up with a novel counter to gyarados but u cant tell anyone its a secret okay

grass resist berry rotom-w

i heard scarf rotom-w could be a viable check to dyna gyara

i also believe that court change timbs cinderace could be a fun gimmick mon (and will get better when it gets its hidden ability obviously)

scarf rotom doesnt work because gyara gets faster with dynamax flying. yeah cinderace when it gets protean is gonna be pretty nasty, pyro ball is some strong stab

how do u personally feel about pyro ball. do u think its better than flare blitz bc no recoil or worse bc 90acc? which do u think cinder sets would prefer?

people run Focus Blast and Stone Edge with much worse accuracy, why wouldnt you use Pyor Ball
the much bigger downside is 8pp but its either that or recoil preventing from spamming your fire move so whatever

as for Libero while being budget gren is nice, gren had a much bigger movepool, decent stats on Atk and Spatk to run mixed/ full special/physical, and solid support options with Spikes and TSpikes (which it found openings for often) making it super unpredictable, especially once Z Moves came around giving it dumb stuff like Z Dig, Cinder is much more limited in all those areas, mostly by being a fire type making it weak to any hazards so if you wanna uturn spam you are forced to run boots giving up alot of power/speed. it'll be good sure but its nothing compared to gren imo

I mean the issue with Pyro Ball isn't the move itself, it's with Cinderace. Hopefully Libero helps, but I guess we'll see.