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Harassment in this community: It needs to stop.
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scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out

scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out
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catman1900ScrewballIf you think this issue is contained to the TF2 community you are delusional. The same sorts of pricks exist in every game.
it doesn't have to be this community though, it's not exactly huge. Making excuses for it like "every game has this problem" just normalizes it further.

I'm not normalising it. It needs to be addressed with actual consequences instead of just complaining about it here. In his own words " in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate". That is objectively wrong. Lets not delude ourselves.

As for what to do about it. Do the leagues not have some sort of code of conduct? The only thing we can really do as a community is ostracize the offending individual.

[quote=catman1900][quote=Screwball]
If you think this issue is contained to the TF2 community you are delusional. The same sorts of pricks exist in every game.
[/quote]

it doesn't have to be this community though, it's not exactly huge. Making excuses for it like "every game has this problem" just normalizes it further.[/quote]
I'm not normalising it. It needs to be addressed with actual consequences instead of just complaining about it here. In his own words " in literally any other community this wouldn’t even be up for debate". That is objectively wrong. Lets not delude ourselves.

As for what to do about it. Do the leagues not have some sort of code of conduct? The only thing we can really do as a community is ostracize the offending individual.
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#94
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another one of these threads

another one of these threads
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torkey
Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.

okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans

[quote=torkey]

Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.[/quote]
okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans
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Ok, The N-Word is not cool either. Imagine if someone was trans and black?? Or trans-racial??? WOW

Thanks guys lets try to fix this situation together.

Ok, The N-Word is not cool either. Imagine if someone was trans and black?? Or trans-racial??? WOW

Thanks guys lets try to fix this situation together.
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Panda_RaceCar37Doggo people change. I know its a bizarre concept for you, as you've always been the same degenerative child since the day I met you.
You have been passed around, friend group to friend group because no one can stand you for any extended period of time, all due to your terrible attitude and a strange desire in you to shit talk and make fun of, everyone who crosses your path.

you fake being trans on your profile

[quote=Panda_RaceCar37]Doggo people change. I know its a bizarre concept for you, as you've always been the same degenerative child since the day I met you.
You have been passed around, friend group to friend group because no one can stand you for any extended period of time, all due to your terrible attitude and a strange desire in you to shit talk and make fun of, everyone who crosses your path.[/quote]
you fake being trans on your profile
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#100
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dogo is a monkey, an ape infact

dogo is a monkey, an ape infact
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#101
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Drugstoner420you fake being TacoBell on your profile

fix'd

[quote=Drugstoner420]
you fake being TacoBell on your profile[/quote]
fix'd
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#102
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torkeyDrugstoner420torkey
Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.
okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans
Listen I’ll be the first person to admit that I was toxic, but i was also going through a lot of personal shit that I don’t have to explain on a thread. It’s been five years since I first started talking to you and you still think calling people the n word is funny. Grow up.

its not my fault because personal problems. its also been five years since you left me, boardwalk, aestrobloome and rarted and dont hang out with us anymore. you also banned me from your mumble because we lost rounds in ultiduo and you said i was an emo retard who will never be good at anything in life.

[quote=torkey][quote=Drugstoner420][quote=torkey]

Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.[/quote]
okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans[/quote]
Listen I’ll be the first person to admit that I was toxic, but i was also going through a lot of personal shit that I don’t have to explain on a thread. It’s been five years since I first started talking to you and you still think calling people the n word is funny. Grow up.[/quote]
its not my fault because personal problems. its also been five years since you left me, boardwalk, aestrobloome and rarted and dont hang out with us anymore. you also banned me from your mumble because we lost rounds in ultiduo and you said i was an emo retard who will never be good at anything in life.
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#103
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IncognitoCloudscratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out

Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement

[quote=IncognitoCloud]scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out[/quote]
Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement
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#104
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The government puts fluoride in the mge servers

The government puts fluoride in the mge servers
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#105
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use PMs. dont derail thread

use PMs. dont derail thread
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#106
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ScratchhIncognitoCloudscratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you outYeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement

the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "

[quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud]scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out[/quote]
Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement[/quote]

the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "
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whenever i see shit like this i deadass wonder what the end goal is
like what do u people expect to happen after u create shit like this

whenever i see shit like this i deadass wonder what the end goal is
like what do u people expect to happen after u create shit like this
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#110
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IncognitoCloudScratchhIncognitoCloudscratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you outYeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement
the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "

Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me

[quote=IncognitoCloud][quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud]scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out[/quote]
Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement[/quote]

the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "[/quote]
Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me
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torkeyDrugstoner420torkeyDrugstoner420torkey
Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.
okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans
Listen I’ll be the first person to admit that I was toxic, but i was also going through a lot of personal shit that I don’t have to explain on a thread. It’s been five years since I first started talking to you and you still think calling people the n word is funny. Grow up.
its not my fault because personal problems. its also been five years since you left me, boardwalk, aestrobloome and rarted and dont hang out with us anymore. you also banned me from your mumble because we lost rounds in ultiduo and you said i was an emo retard who will never be good at anything in life.

listen bud u can add me if u rly care but ik ur just trying to make me look bad over stuff that happened years ago.

even though you're the person who removed me right after that

[quote=torkey][quote=Drugstoner420][quote=torkey][quote=Drugstoner420][quote=torkey]

Okay this is actually the most brain dead thing I’ve ever read.
You do NOT know what she might have to go through on her day to day life. I know most people use the internet to get away from the shit that they have to go through everyday, myself included. So saying that “just throw away the computer lol” is actually so idiotic. People like you and the scratch retards who think it’s “funny to bully people because of the reaction” just proves that you are the people responsible for the “regression of society.”
I know I used to be mean or whatever but that’s because I was a child and I had stuff in my life that I dont want to elaborate on. I can’t believe I talked to you for over two years, it’s disgusting.[/quote]
okay buddy not like you bm'd anybody before you turned trans[/quote]
Listen I’ll be the first person to admit that I was toxic, but i was also going through a lot of personal shit that I don’t have to explain on a thread. It’s been five years since I first started talking to you and you still think calling people the n word is funny. Grow up.[/quote]
its not my fault because personal problems. its also been five years since you left me, boardwalk, aestrobloome and rarted and dont hang out with us anymore. you also banned me from your mumble because we lost rounds in ultiduo and you said i was an emo retard who will never be good at anything in life.[/quote]

listen bud u can add me if u rly care but ik ur just trying to make me look bad over stuff that happened years ago.[/quote]
even though you're the person who removed me right after that
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#112
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^why do u sound so sad posting that :)

its their acct they can do whatever they want with it. grow up

^why do u sound so sad posting that :)

its their acct they can do whatever they want with it. grow up
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#113
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demerol^why do u sound so sad posting that :)

i lost a TRUE HOMIE.

[quote=demerol]^why do u sound so sad posting that :)[/quote]
i lost a [b][i]TRUE HOMIE.[/i][/b]
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#114
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ScrewballAs for what to do about it. Do the leagues not have some sort of code of conduct? The only thing we can really do as a community is ostracize the offending individual.

To answer your question: RGL HL admin here. I can't speak for the prolander side, but we take toxicity (more specifically, personal player harassment) very seriously even outside of the game, and have banned multiple people from the league because of it. In fact, we banned about half a dozen people this past season for player harassment, primarily due to the use of slurs and witch hunting. As a side note, since we make all of our bans public, I don't have to hide that Scratchh has been banned from RGL for a while now for (guess what) harassment. Now, onto what I think...

It's very upsetting to me when I see this trend persist even after the countless threads people make denouncing this sort of behavior. You would think that more people would make a genuine effort to, as Screwb put it, ostracize the outwardly negative players from the community. I don't wanna name any names but there's definitely a handful of players that I'm surprised are still active and participate in the community, considering their controversial pasts. But no, only when someone goes out of their way to collect TONS of proof that they or someone they know has been facing this harassment extensively over a long period of time is there a brief knee-jerk reaction where everybody says "Hey man thats not cool," and we all forget about it in a week. I don't post much, but I've lurked for years and you can't tell me I'm wrong, because I swear this BS happens once every few months.

Thankfully, I'm lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to do something about it on a more official level. Like him or not, sigafoo has probably taken the biggest strides out of all of the leagues in the game's history to keep the community clean and free of toxic players, and all I can say is it feels good to play a role in helping achieve that goal. I hope others can take this example that he's setting to heart and begin making more of an effort to detrash the community.

[quote=Screwball]
As for what to do about it. Do the leagues not have some sort of code of conduct? The only thing we can really do as a community is ostracize the offending individual.[/quote]

[b]To answer your question: RGL HL admin here. I can't speak for the prolander side, but we take toxicity (more specifically, personal player harassment) very seriously even outside of the game, and have banned multiple people from the league because of it. In fact, we banned about half a dozen people this past season for player harassment, primarily due to the use of slurs and witch hunting. [url=http://cup.rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198079513105]As a side note, since we make all of our bans public, I don't have to hide that Scratchh has been banned from RGL for a while now for (guess what) harassment.[/url] [/b] Now, onto what I think...

It's very upsetting to me when I see this trend persist even after the countless threads people make denouncing this sort of behavior. You would think that more people would make a genuine effort to, as Screwb put it, ostracize the outwardly negative players from the community. I don't wanna name any names but there's definitely a handful of players that I'm surprised are still active and participate in the community, considering their controversial pasts. But no, only when someone goes out of their way to collect TONS of proof that they or someone they know has been facing this harassment extensively over a long period of time is there a brief knee-jerk reaction where everybody says "Hey man thats not cool," and we all forget about it in a week. I don't post much, but I've lurked for years and you can't tell me I'm wrong, because I swear this BS happens once every few months.

Thankfully, I'm lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to do something about it on a more official level. Like him or not, sigafoo has probably taken the biggest strides out of all of the leagues in the game's history to keep the community clean and free of toxic players, and all I can say is it feels good to play a role in helping achieve that goal. I hope others can take this example that he's setting to heart and begin making more of an effort to detrash the community.
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#115
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/532735561623142400/564556314303266839/Screenshot_2019-04-07-17-04-23-1.png
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Never wrong

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Never wrong
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#116
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Screwball Provable harassment should be bannable.

so should loli porn but here you are

[quote=Screwball] Provable harassment should be bannable.[/quote]
so should loli porn but here you are
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jetzzzzzThe government puts fluoride in the mge servers

underrated post

[quote=jetzzzzz]The government puts fluoride in the mge servers[/quote]
underrated post
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#118
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ScratchhIncognitoCloudScratchhIncognitoCloudscratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you outYeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement
the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "
Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me

You've said in voice chat many times that you and some friends made alt twitch accounts to talk in stephanie's stream. You would bring this up whenever you saw her streaming. Stephanie had to turn on a timer for followers to talk in her chat, which you proudly bragged about making her do. So much for "Not stalking".

[quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud][quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud]scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out[/quote]
Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement[/quote]

the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "[/quote]
Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me[/quote]
You've said in voice chat many times that you and some friends made alt twitch accounts to talk in stephanie's stream. You would bring this up whenever you saw her streaming. Stephanie had to turn on a timer for followers to talk in her chat, which you proudly bragged about making her do. So much for "Not stalking".
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#119
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PantherrrScratchhIncognitoCloudScratchhIncognitoCloudscratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you outYeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement
the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "
Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me
You've said in voice chat many times that you and some friends made alt twitch accounts to talk in stephanie's stream. You would bring this up whenever you saw her streaming. Stephanie had to turn on a timer for followers to talk in her chat, which you proudly bragged about making her do. So much for "Not stalking".

very true statement coming from you pantherrr. Going on someones stream while their streaming is stalking. I guess b4nny has a lot of stalkers. I also never denied that I made accounts, I said it was "almost always someone else", I made maybe 2 in the year of 2018 to follow stephanie, and the one linked in the thread wasnt me. I havent made another account in a while now.

[quote=Pantherrr][quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud][quote=Scratchh][quote=IncognitoCloud]scratch your apology doesnt mean shit since you wouldnt have apologized if there wasnt a tftv thread that had a giant list calling you out[/quote]
Yeah right as if there wasn’t some sort of incentive to apologize good arguement[/quote]

the incentive to apologize is not to be a giant dick to people lol. idk how you can say "i know what i was doing was wrong but i did it anyway"
"oh i didnt know me stalking and harassing this person would make them upset guys im sorry :/ "[/quote]
Wow another person who didn’t read my post. I made it quite clear that I wasn’t stalking her or anybody. I queued into their pubs and taunted them, and messed with them on twitter for about 10 minutes while they decided not to block me[/quote]
You've said in voice chat many times that you and some friends made alt twitch accounts to talk in stephanie's stream. You would bring this up whenever you saw her streaming. Stephanie had to turn on a timer for followers to talk in her chat, which you proudly bragged about making her do. So much for "Not stalking".[/quote]
very true statement coming from you pantherrr. Going on someones stream while their streaming is stalking. I guess b4nny has a lot of stalkers. I also never denied that I made accounts, I said it was "almost always someone else", I made maybe 2 in the year of 2018 to follow stephanie, and the one linked in the thread wasnt me. I havent made another account in a while now.
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