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SVIFT EU dead
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#31
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BloodisWhile I do agree that the system yak proposed is definitely better than what we had planned, it would not only be a second time we have changed the entire bracket system in a really short time to confuse a lot of people out playing in the qualifiers but also happening in only about 6 hours before the matches themselves would start.

So, you've created a flawed and unfair system and have found a better solution? Why not implement it? It's almost as if this decision wasn't thought through originally! It's not like all of the games are scheduled at different times or on different days. Every single team has scheduled for today at 21:15. Changing the team that they are playing against is only a formality as all the teams are already ready to play. I don't see how this would be confusing.

BloodisIt would be even more dumb right now to tell some of the teams and the TFTV production team taking part in making the qualifiers today a pleasant watch only to know that their matches that they have scheduled and organized by themselves will not be played

How is this "dumb"? The casters are ready to cast a game anyway. Changing the game that is casted is again, only a formality. There are times where the intended game isn't casted anyway, how would this be any different. As for the scheduling and organising - all teams have scheduled and organised for today at 21:15 so it's not like there's a logistical problem here.

Bloodisafter all the preparation put in just because some teams in the qualifiers gave the admins none to bad results during the sign-up process as we always have highly recommended for teams in qualifiers to do.

How has this got anything to do with creating a massively unfair qualifying system?

BloodisWith all that said, the feedback that we have received so far for the entire qualifiers is not completely going to waste, I do now agree myself that putting both of the two lower bracket teams against each other on the first round is a big disappointment and will very likely not happen in the future anymore.

Right, so you've received feedback, agree with the feedback and are unwilling to change the format whilst you still can. This doesn't make sense; there is ample time to change the format, as shown in my other points in this post. It's just a formality. I also would argue that it's not just a disappointment - it's an injustice.

[quote=Bloodis]While I do agree that the system yak proposed is definitely better than what we had planned, it would not only be a second time we have changed the entire bracket system in a really short time to confuse a lot of people out playing in the qualifiers but also happening in only about 6 hours before the matches themselves would start.
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So, you've created a flawed and unfair system and have found a better solution? Why not implement it? It's almost as if this decision wasn't thought through originally! It's not like all of the games are scheduled at different times or on different days. Every single team has scheduled for today at 21:15. Changing the team that they are playing against is only a formality as all the teams are already ready to play. I don't see how this would be confusing.

[quote=Bloodis]It would be even more dumb right now to tell some of the teams and the TFTV production team taking part in making the qualifiers today a pleasant watch only to know that their matches that they have scheduled and organized by themselves will not be played [/quote]

How is this "dumb"? The casters are ready to cast a game anyway. Changing the game that is casted is again, only a formality. There are times where the intended game isn't casted anyway, how would this be any different. As for the scheduling and organising - all teams have scheduled and organised for today at 21:15 so it's not like there's a logistical problem here.


[quote=Bloodis]after all the preparation put in just because some teams in the qualifiers gave the admins none to bad results during the sign-up process as we always have highly recommended for teams in qualifiers to do. [/quote]

How has this got anything to do with creating a massively unfair qualifying system?

[quote=Bloodis]With all that said, the feedback that we have received so far for the entire qualifiers is not completely going to waste, I do now agree myself that putting both of the two lower bracket teams against each other on the first round is a big disappointment and will very likely not happen in the future anymore.[/quote]

Right, so you've received feedback, agree with the feedback and are unwilling to change the format whilst you still can. This doesn't make sense; there is ample time to change the format, as shown in my other points in this post. It's just a formality. I also would argue that it's not just a disappointment - it's an injustice.
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#32
8 Frags +

Now that we are complaining about preseason playoffs why did nunya get a free pass when their results is pretty much the same as danger dogs? /s

Now that we are complaining about preseason playoffs why did nunya get a free pass when their results is pretty much the same as danger dogs? /s
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#33
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#34
5 Frags +

https://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/174164/3.0

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#35
4 Frags +

I want to hear the drama that caused this please

I want to hear the drama that caused this please
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#36
-2 Frags +

yak :'(

yak :'(
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#37
9 Frags +

Schocky comes back instantly folds team ...

Schocky comes back instantly folds team ...
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#38
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BloodisWhile I do agree that the system yak proposed is definitely better than what we had planned, it would not only be a second time we have changed the entire bracket system in a really short time to confuse a lot of people out playing in the qualifiers but also happening in only about 6 hours before the matches themselves would start, not everyone has the time to keep up with sudden changes such as this when people might as well only now have heard of SVIFT dropping out of the season, for example.

It would be even more dumb right now to tell some of the teams and the TFTV production team taking part in making the qualifiers today a pleasant watch only to know that their matches that they have scheduled and organized by themselves will not be played after all the preparation put in just because some teams in the qualifiers gave the admins none to bad results during the sign-up process as we always have highly recommended for teams in qualifiers to do.

With all that said, the feedback that we have received so far for the entire qualifiers is not completely going to waste, I do now agree myself that putting both of the two lower bracket teams against each other on the first round is a big disappointment and will very likely not happen in the future anymore.

What is worse- having some people confused about the format for a short while or having a broken format? You changed it once to make the brackets make more sense after SVIFT folded- it seems completely illogical to say that they should not be changed more now for the very same reason. You admit yourself that the current format is bad; why not act on that admission rather than promising to make them less "disappointing" next time? The decision to not do this to avoid confusion is precisely the kind of arbitrary and shortsighted administration that meant the brackets were poor in the first place.

[quote=Bloodis]While I do agree that the system yak proposed is definitely better than what we had planned, it would not only be a second time we have changed the entire bracket system in a really short time to confuse a lot of people out playing in the qualifiers but also happening in only about 6 hours before the matches themselves would start, not everyone has the time to keep up with sudden changes such as this when people might as well only now have heard of SVIFT dropping out of the season, for example.

It would be even more dumb right now to tell some of the teams and the TFTV production team taking part in making the qualifiers today a pleasant watch only to know that their matches that they have scheduled and organized by themselves will not be played after all the preparation put in just because some teams in the qualifiers gave the admins none to bad results during the sign-up process as we always have highly recommended for teams in qualifiers to do.

With all that said, the feedback that we have received so far for the entire qualifiers is not completely going to waste, I do now agree myself that putting both of the two lower bracket teams against each other on the first round is a big disappointment and will very likely not happen in the future anymore.[/quote]
What is worse- having some people confused about the format for a short while or having a broken format? You changed it once to make the brackets make more sense after SVIFT folded- it seems completely illogical to say that they should not be changed more now for the very same reason. You admit yourself that the current format is bad; why not act on that admission rather than promising to make them less "disappointing" next time? The decision to not do this to avoid confusion is precisely the kind of arbitrary and shortsighted administration that meant the brackets were poor in the first place.
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#39
1 Frags +

hate to see it...

hate to see it...
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#40
7 Frags +

Why not just switch some games now before it’s too late, having them at the same time that the others would have been scheduled for? What would you rather, a mild inconvenience or prem being negatively affected for at least one or two seasons by teams undeservingly getting / not getting in?

Why not just switch some games now before it’s too late, having them at the same time that the others would have been scheduled for? What would you rather, a mild inconvenience or prem being negatively affected for at least one or two seasons by teams undeservingly getting / not getting in?
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