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FACEIT Frags video need feedback
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#1
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https://youtu.be/nry0Iinw3yE

hi i've been working on this frag movie for a good while and i would like some feedback on it cuz i wanna make more frag vids in the future

textures are low cuz tf2 dies if they're too high

https://youtu.be/nry0Iinw3yE

hi i've been working on this frag movie for a good while and i would like some feedback on it cuz i wanna make more frag vids in the future

textures are low cuz tf2 dies if they're too high
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#2
13 Frags +

fps is super low which for me makes it impossible to watch
also personally I dislike seeing the crosshair - don't think it adds anything apart from clutter on the screen
some of the frags were a bit bad imo
super cool that you're making this sort of community stuff tho, keep it up

fps is super low which for me makes it impossible to watch
also personally I dislike seeing the crosshair - don't think it adds anything apart from clutter on the screen
some of the frags were a bit bad imo
super cool that you're making this sort of community stuff tho, keep it up
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#3
7 Frags +

loch n load frags that aren't airshots
http://s1.favim.com/orig/150815/aesthetic-ariana-ariana-grande-cute-Favim.com-3122030.jpg

loch n load frags that aren't airshots
http://s1.favim.com/orig/150815/aesthetic-ariana-ariana-grande-cute-Favim.com-3122030.jpg
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#4
1 Frags +

colours seems a bit weird, might be just me

colours seems a bit weird, might be just me
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#5
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degucolours seems a bit weird, might be just me

is it like an orangey tint

[quote=degu]colours seems a bit weird, might be just me[/quote]

is it like an orangey tint
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#6
3 Frags +

ok well apparently either imovie is even more retarded than i thought or i messed something up uploading but video is 30 fps despite all the original clips being 60 fps

ok well apparently either imovie is even more retarded than i thought or i messed something up uploading but video is 30 fps despite all the original clips being 60 fps
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#7
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#8
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gatsanok well apparently either imovie is even more retarded than i thought or i messed something up uploading but video is 30 fps despite all the original clips being 60 fps

I don't know how you record, but doing startmovie TGA recording with host_framerate 300 on POV will give you silky smooth footage. Top that with 60 fps render settings and you're golden.

[quote=gatsan]ok well apparently either imovie is even more retarded than i thought or i messed something up uploading but video is 30 fps despite all the original clips being 60 fps[/quote]
I don't know how you record, but doing startmovie TGA recording with host_framerate 300 on POV will give you silky smooth footage. Top that with 60 fps render settings and you're golden.
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#9
6 Frags +

Solid movie. Color seems fine to me. This seems more like just a nice fragshow than a frag movie to me because of the minimal editing, but well-executed minimal editing will always be better than badly executed complex editing.

Basic Feedback:
-Intro/outro text looks really nice
-Turn the killfeed off when you do smooths and other thirdperson shots (example: at 0:36 - 0:38)
-What's with the sniper clip at 2:37 having a really wide FOV when they're scoped in? Try to fix that
-Your use of slo-mo is effective and well-timed

Advanced Feedback:
-If you're going to transition between two entirely different plays, hard cuts>dissolves because dissolves imply continuity. Since you used dissolves so much, I had to second-guess if 1:10 - 1:17 was part of the same sequence or two completely different plays.
-On that note, have some more variety in your transitions in general. When you use a smooth or a third person shot to introduce or close out a play it's generally more interesting to watch than a straight dissolve. I guess what I'm trying to say is to, in general, avoid dissolving from a POV clip straight to another POV clip because it almost always looks ugly. If you had to only use one kind of transition for a whole video I would much prefer you to cut or wipe between POV clips than to be constantly dissolving.
-Dissolves between third-person/smooths and POV clips look nice though. IMO a dissolve at 1:06 would have been a better transition between that particular third person and POV shot since the hard cut is rather jarring.
-The best parts of this frag movie are when you're able to sync the frags/editing to the music. Keep doing that as much as possible -- I really enjoy it when there's a flow and rhythm to frag movies, and in a few parts of this you really nail that. This will come both from the way you arrange the clips in relation to each other within the movie as a whole, and from the editing choices you make within a specific clip (such as deciding to use slo-mo, etc.).
-The best way to practice all these things is just to keep making videos, so keep it up! :)

P.S. Using an editing software that's more advanced than iMovie will give you more options to use when editing. You may or may not want more options.

Solid movie. Color seems fine to me. This seems more like just a nice fragshow than a frag movie to me because of the minimal editing, but well-executed minimal editing will always be better than badly executed complex editing.

Basic Feedback:
-Intro/outro text looks really nice
-Turn the killfeed off when you do smooths and other thirdperson shots (example: at 0:36 - 0:38)
-What's with the sniper clip at 2:37 having a really wide FOV when they're scoped in? Try to fix that
-Your use of slo-mo is effective and well-timed

Advanced Feedback:
-If you're going to transition between two entirely different plays, hard cuts>dissolves because dissolves imply continuity. Since you used dissolves so much, I had to second-guess if 1:10 - 1:17 was part of the same sequence or two completely different plays.
-On that note, have some more variety in your transitions in general. When you use a smooth or a third person shot to introduce or close out a play it's generally more interesting to watch than a straight dissolve. [b]I guess what I'm trying to say is to, in general, avoid dissolving from a POV clip straight to another POV clip because it almost always looks ugly.[/b] If you had to only use one kind of transition for a whole video I would much prefer you to cut or wipe between POV clips than to be constantly dissolving.
-Dissolves between third-person/smooths and POV clips look nice though. IMO a dissolve at 1:06 would have been a better transition between that particular third person and POV shot since the hard cut is rather jarring.
-The best parts of this frag movie are when you're able to sync the frags/editing to the music. Keep doing that as much as possible -- I really enjoy it when there's a flow and rhythm to frag movies, and in a few parts of this you really nail that. This will come both from the way you arrange the clips in relation to each other within the movie as a whole, and from the editing choices you make within a specific clip (such as deciding to use slo-mo, etc.).
-The best way to practice all these things is just to keep making videos, so keep it up! :)

P.S. Using an editing software that's more advanced than iMovie will give you more options to use when editing. You may or may not want more options.
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#10
0 Frags +
ShearsSolid movie. Color seems fine to me. This seems more like just a nice fragshow than a frag movie to me because of the minimal editing, but well-executed minimal editing will always be better than badly executed complex editing.

Basic Feedback:
-Intro/outro text looks really nice
-Turn the killfeed off when you do smooths and other thirdperson shots (example: at 0:36 - 0:38)
-What's with the sniper clip at 2:37 having a really wide FOV when they're scoped in? Try to fix that
-Your use of slo-mo is effective and well-timed

Advanced Feedback:
-If you're going to transition between two entirely different plays, hard cuts>dissolves because dissolves imply continuity. Since you used dissolves so much, I had to second-guess if 1:10 - 1:17 was part of the same sequence or two completely different plays.
-On that note, have some more variety in your transitions in general. When you use a smooth or a third person shot to introduce or close out a play it's generally more interesting to watch than a straight dissolve. I guess what I'm trying to say is to, in general, avoid dissolving from a POV clip straight to another POV clip because it almost always looks ugly. If you had to only use one kind of transition for a whole video I would much prefer you to cut or wipe between POV clips than to be constantly dissolving.
-Dissolves between third-person/smooths and POV clips look nice though. IMO a dissolve at 1:06 would have been a better transition between that particular third person and POV shot since the hard cut is rather jarring.
-The best parts of this frag movie are when you're able to sync the frags/editing to the music. Keep doing that as much as possible -- I really enjoy it when there's a flow and rhythm to frag movies, and in a few parts of this you really nail that. This will come both from the way you arrange the clips in relation to each other within the movie as a whole, and from the editing choices you make within a specific clip (such as deciding to use slo-mo, etc.).
-The best way to practice all these things is just to keep making videos, so keep it up! :)

P.S. Using an editing software that's more advanced than iMovie will give you more options to use when editing. You may or may not want more options.

sniper views are bugged in STV it seems to be like that for other people
i thought hard cuts were for within the same play and dissolves for transitioning between different clips? i'll try what you said anyways, just thought the "cross dissolve" was the least obnoxious looking transition
yea for faceit frags 3 if there is one i'll try learn smoothing, it does look cool for introducing new clips

fuck imovie

[quote=Shears]Solid movie. Color seems fine to me. This seems more like just a nice fragshow than a frag movie to me because of the minimal editing, but well-executed minimal editing will always be better than badly executed complex editing.

Basic Feedback:
-Intro/outro text looks really nice
-Turn the killfeed off when you do smooths and other thirdperson shots (example: at 0:36 - 0:38)
-What's with the sniper clip at 2:37 having a really wide FOV when they're scoped in? Try to fix that
-Your use of slo-mo is effective and well-timed

Advanced Feedback:
-If you're going to transition between two entirely different plays, hard cuts>dissolves because dissolves imply continuity. Since you used dissolves so much, I had to second-guess if 1:10 - 1:17 was part of the same sequence or two completely different plays.
-On that note, have some more variety in your transitions in general. When you use a smooth or a third person shot to introduce or close out a play it's generally more interesting to watch than a straight dissolve. [b]I guess what I'm trying to say is to, in general, avoid dissolving from a POV clip straight to another POV clip because it almost always looks ugly.[/b] If you had to only use one kind of transition for a whole video I would much prefer you to cut or wipe between POV clips than to be constantly dissolving.
-Dissolves between third-person/smooths and POV clips look nice though. IMO a dissolve at 1:06 would have been a better transition between that particular third person and POV shot since the hard cut is rather jarring.
-The best parts of this frag movie are when you're able to sync the frags/editing to the music. Keep doing that as much as possible -- I really enjoy it when there's a flow and rhythm to frag movies, and in a few parts of this you really nail that. This will come both from the way you arrange the clips in relation to each other within the movie as a whole, and from the editing choices you make within a specific clip (such as deciding to use slo-mo, etc.).
-The best way to practice all these things is just to keep making videos, so keep it up! :)

P.S. Using an editing software that's more advanced than iMovie will give you more options to use when editing. You may or may not want more options.[/quote]

sniper views are bugged in STV it seems to be like that for other people
i thought hard cuts were for within the same play and dissolves for transitioning between different clips? i'll try what you said anyways, just thought the "cross dissolve" was the least obnoxious looking transition
yea for faceit frags 3 if there is one i'll try learn smoothing, it does look cool for introducing new clips

fuck imovie
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#11
0 Frags +

Ok, I feel I should amend my statement somewhat after a few days and after rewatching some old movies from the Funky Visions crew. Dissolves CAN work, but you should keep them significantly shorter than you have them in this video. A lot of your dissolves in this video seem to last a whole second, which makes it look kinda ugly since you can visibly see the clips superimposed on each other. (1:45 is a pretty good example of that). I like hard cuts, but I know that they are jarring if you don't cut on beat or at a moment that's otherwise convenient for a transition. If you want a softer transition, a short dissolve (maybe 1/6th of a second? I think that's a good benchmark but I haven't edited in a while) will get rid of the jarring nature of a hard cut without looking ugly because it goes by too quickly for the viewer to really notice the superimposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyzTu-Owd8&t=6s <-- there are a lot of good examples here of quick, unobtrusive dissolves

If you want more ideas for transitions I would honestly go and watch some of the well-known older editors in the scene - off the top of my head, NaF, Cla, Torn Productions, and ikpure come to mind. There's definitely more but those are the ones that pop into my head. Much better than reading my rather rambling thoughts.

P.S. Watching that video again, I saw that you have some dissolves that actually work quite nicely, but I didn't notice them the first few viewings because I didn't notice them (because they were short (and therefore not visually jarring(and therefore did not break my immersion in the video)))

/endnerdessay

Ok, I feel I should amend my statement somewhat after a few days and after rewatching some old movies from the Funky Visions crew. Dissolves CAN work, but you should keep them significantly shorter than you have them in this video. A lot of your dissolves in this video seem to last a whole second, which makes it look kinda ugly since you can visibly see the clips superimposed on each other. (1:45 is a pretty good example of that). I like hard cuts, but I know that they are jarring if you don't cut on beat or at a moment that's otherwise convenient for a transition. If you want a softer transition, a short dissolve (maybe 1/6th of a second? I think that's a good benchmark but I haven't edited in a while) will get rid of the jarring nature of a hard cut without looking ugly because it goes by too quickly for the viewer to really notice the superimposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkyzTu-Owd8&t=6s <-- there are a lot of good examples here of quick, unobtrusive dissolves

If you want more ideas for transitions I would honestly go and watch some of the well-known older editors in the scene - off the top of my head, NaF, Cla, Torn Productions, and ikpure come to mind. There's definitely more but those are the ones that pop into my head. Much better than reading my rather rambling thoughts.

P.S. Watching that video again, I saw that you have some dissolves that actually work quite nicely, but I didn't notice them the first few viewings because I didn't notice them (because they were short (and therefore not visually jarring(and therefore did not break my immersion in the video)))

/endnerdessay
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