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cant jump while the crouch button is pressed?
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Fixed! ty Shounic and everyone else <3

so normally when I crouch jump or rocket jump my keyboard input is crouch > jump > shoot or just crouch > jump I think some people do jump > crouch > shoot which works for me but its hard to just change my habit and I THINK its also worse for rocket jumping to do it like that

random note that if I use my scroll wheel to jump instead of space it works like normal I can do crouch > scroll wheel > shoot but thats also uncomfy id rather just figure out how I can go back to doing control (crouch) > space (jump) > m1 (shoot)

edit: btw I know I cant jump while fully crouched im talking about the small window where you can jump and your character is just sorta crouching down and not fully squatted yet

edit2: https://www.twitch.tv/cheesymacgyver_/v/97569125?t=34m52s I explained what is happening on my stream

also keep in mind this happened over night ive spent a lot of time on jump maps and a ton of time in the game in general and ive NEVER had this issue before its not a timing thing that im just now screwing up after 8000 hours of gameplay something changed and I dont know what because I didnt edit anything or move anything all I can think of is that my control key on my keyboard is just fucked

Fixed! ty Shounic and everyone else <3

so normally when I crouch jump or rocket jump my keyboard input is crouch > jump > shoot or just crouch > jump I think some people do jump > crouch > shoot which works for me but its hard to just change my habit and I THINK its also worse for rocket jumping to do it like that

random note that if I use my scroll wheel to jump instead of space it works like normal I can do crouch > scroll wheel > shoot but thats also uncomfy id rather just figure out how I can go back to doing control (crouch) > space (jump) > m1 (shoot)

edit: btw I know I cant jump while fully crouched im talking about the small window where you can jump and your character is just sorta crouching down and not fully squatted yet

edit2: https://www.twitch.tv/cheesymacgyver_/v/97569125?t=34m52s I explained what is happening on my stream

also keep in mind this happened over night ive spent a lot of time on jump maps and a ton of time in the game in general and ive NEVER had this issue before its not a timing thing that im just now screwing up after 8000 hours of gameplay something changed and I dont know what because I didnt edit anything or move anything all I can think of is that my control key on my keyboard is just fucked
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Do you have space bound to only +jump? You might have a crouch jump script on it somewhere in your cfg.

Do you have space bound to only +jump? You might have a crouch jump script on it somewhere in your cfg.
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sounds like you're talking about ctapping
to answer your question though I'd say it's probably just timing because people often use scroll wheel to bhop as it seems more responsive than the space bar (and you can spam it more easily)
assuming they are both bound to +jump that is
afaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo) and aside from perhaps being able to surf further (?) I don't think it does anything on scout out any other class
obviously once you are fully crouched you can't jump so you have to time it correctly (for crouch jumps you world have to crouch then jump then crouch again which is kind of silly tbh)
have you tried binding m2 to +duck? I've found that makes it a lot easier to adjust the timing for ctaps

sounds like you're talking about ctapping
to answer your question though I'd say it's probably just timing because people often use scroll wheel to bhop as it seems more responsive than the space bar (and you can spam it more easily)
assuming they are both bound to +jump that is
afaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo) and aside from perhaps being able to surf further (?) I don't think it does anything on scout out any other class
obviously once you are fully crouched you can't jump so you have to time it correctly (for crouch jumps you world have to crouch then jump then crouch again which is kind of silly tbh)
have you tried binding m2 to +duck? I've found that makes it a lot easier to adjust the timing for ctaps
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thanks for the replies but I guess its sort of hard to explain id make a video but im kind of lazy... I also seem to have found a small shitty solution its only a problem with my crouch being bound to control if +jump is bound to any other key I can crouch jump around normally so I have made the change to having shift as my crouch button even though its kind of annoying to get used to

just to try and explain what is happening again I know what ctapping is and how to do it I dont have a crouch jump script installed and ive been crouch jumping the same way ever since I knew what it was

a crouch jump would be Crouch > jump very soon after

rocket jump would be crouch > jump and shoot almost at the same time

but now instead what happens is I crouch then go to press jump less than half a second later and my character just wont jump

thanks for the replies but I guess its sort of hard to explain id make a video but im kind of lazy... I also seem to have found a small shitty solution its only a problem with my crouch being bound to control if +jump is bound to any other key I can crouch jump around normally so I have made the change to having shift as my crouch button even though its kind of annoying to get used to

just to try and explain what is happening again I know what ctapping is and how to do it I dont have a crouch jump script installed and ive been crouch jumping the same way ever since I knew what it was

a crouch jump would be Crouch > jump very soon after

rocket jump would be crouch > jump and shoot almost at the same time

but now instead what happens is I crouch then go to press jump less than half a second later and my character just wont jump
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it's like a failed ctap, I guess : if you try to ctap but press crouch and jump at the same time, I think you won't actually jump.

it's like a failed ctap, I guess : if you try to ctap but press crouch and jump at the same time, I think you won't actually jump.
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bearodactylafaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)

I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it.

https://i.imgur.com/PDNmWov.gif

[quote=bearodactyl]afaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)[/quote]
I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it.

https://i.imgur.com/PDNmWov.gif
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Maximeit's like a failed ctap, I guess : if you try to ctap but press crouch and jump at the same time, I think you won't actually jump.

okay I feel like I explain it okay in this video and show what is happening https://www.twitch.tv/cheesymacgyver_/v/97569125?t=34m52s

[quote=Maxime]it's like a failed ctap, I guess : if you try to ctap but press crouch and jump at the same time, I think you won't actually jump.[/quote]

okay I feel like I explain it okay in this video and show what is happening https://www.twitch.tv/cheesymacgyver_/v/97569125?t=34m52s
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I've had this issue before, try checking your windows language keyboard settings. I used to have a Chinese keyboard also enabled and there's a windows hotkey it forces on you to switch between languages on the fly and this hotkey hook can fuck with Ctrl + Space just because windows :D I ended up removing all the keyboards besides the english one to fix it.

I also do the crouch then jump key sequence so you're not wrong for doing that.

I've had this issue before, try checking your windows language keyboard settings. I used to have a Chinese keyboard also enabled and there's a windows hotkey it forces on you to switch between languages on the fly and this hotkey hook can fuck with Ctrl + Space just because windows :D I ended up removing all the keyboards besides the english one to fix it.

I also do the crouch then jump key sequence so you're not wrong for doing that.
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ShounicI've had this issue before, try checking your windows language keyboard settings. I used to have a Chinese keyboard also enabled and there's a windows hotkey it forces on you to switch between languages on the fly and this hotkey hook can fuck with Ctrl + Space just because windows :D I ended up removing all the keyboards besides the english one to fix it.

I also do the crouch then jump key sequence so you're not wrong for doing that.

you are a god https://gyazo.com/9a6e4626f64102bb0a06a738ebc63883 that lil CH is my language set to Chinese I put it back to english now and everything is fixed! thanks fam <3

[quote=Shounic]I've had this issue before, try checking your windows language keyboard settings. I used to have a Chinese keyboard also enabled and there's a windows hotkey it forces on you to switch between languages on the fly and this hotkey hook can fuck with Ctrl + Space just because windows :D I ended up removing all the keyboards besides the english one to fix it.

I also do the crouch then jump key sequence so you're not wrong for doing that.[/quote]

you are a god https://gyazo.com/9a6e4626f64102bb0a06a738ebc63883 that lil CH is my language set to Chinese I put it back to english now and everything is fixed! thanks fam <3
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Antimoonbearodactylafaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it.

https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24 (ignore shitty music)
pretty sure lambda knows what he's doing as he's one of if not the best demo trick jumpers in the world

also @cheesy it may just be an issue with your keyboard not accepting the inputs of space and control at the same time (you could do skeys on a jump server or iirc if you record a demo there's a way to play it back and see if the +jump input is going through)
the fact that you can do it with crouch bound to shift but not control is odd though no idea why that would be a thing
edit: nvm shounics thing was the problem nvm

[quote=Antimoon][quote=bearodactyl]afaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)[/quote]
I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, [b]since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it[/b].[/quote]
[url=https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24]https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24[/url] (ignore shitty music)
pretty sure lambda knows what he's doing as he's one of if not the best demo trick jumpers in the world

also @cheesy it may just be an issue with your keyboard not accepting the inputs of space and control at the same time (you could do skeys on a jump server or iirc if you record a demo there's a way to play it back and see if the +jump input is going through)
the fact that you can do it with crouch bound to shift but not control is odd though no idea why that would be a thing
edit: nvm shounics thing was the problem nvm
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Not really relavant but you might want to consider changing your crouch button to shift anyway, I did it a while back and never regretted it my pinky is so much less cramped and it doesn't get sore when I play jump maps anymore

Not really relavant but you might want to consider changing your crouch button to shift anyway, I did it a while back and never regretted it my pinky is so much less cramped and it doesn't get sore when I play jump maps anymore
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bearodactylAntimoonbearodactylafaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it.https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24 (ignore shitty music)
pretty sure lambda knows what he's doing as he's one of if not the best demo trick jumpers in the world

I mean, what he does in the video is just a crouch jump, generally with a ctap you jump while coming up from the crouch, not while you're barely starting to go down. I mean, it's a moot point anyways, since there aren't really any situations in which a demo would need to ctap, so whatever.

[quote=bearodactyl][quote=Antimoon][quote=bearodactyl]afaik ctapping can make you jump further for solly and demo (though I've only ever heard of jumpers doing it on demo)[/quote]
I think you have that a little backwards, ctapping is only really a benefit on soldier, [b]since demo can get basically the maximum boost from a sticky without doing it[/b].[/quote]
[url=https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24]https://youtu.be/urD0WIzh9-Q?t=24[/url] (ignore shitty music)
pretty sure lambda knows what he's doing as he's one of if not the best demo trick jumpers in the world[/quote]
I mean, what he does in the video is just a crouch jump, generally with a ctap you jump while coming up from the crouch, not while you're barely starting to go down. I mean, it's a moot point anyways, since there aren't really any situations in which a demo would [i]need[/i] to ctap, so whatever.
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pretty sure it's the same thing as a ctap
in the comments someone asked if you should ctap for vert/horizontal pogos and he said both

pretty sure it's the same thing as a ctap
in the comments someone asked if you should ctap for vert/horizontal pogos and he said both
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bearodactylpretty sure it's the same thing as a ctap
in the comments someone asked if you should ctap for vert/horizontal pogos and he said both

Huh, TIL.

[quote=bearodactyl]pretty sure it's the same thing as a ctap
in the comments someone asked if you should ctap for vert/horizontal pogos and he said both[/quote]
Huh, TIL.
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