tbf there's like 3+ people touching her leading up to the punch, it wouldn't be an absurd thing to think someone touched or harassed u if yr pumped up on adrenaline or being restrained

she's p fucking stupid tho anyone who protests a political rally deserves to be castrated

the problem is that the people who say "social justice/feminism still has good intentions, it's just a couple bad apples" are the same people who denounce labels like mra because of the bad apples.

over time words can change meaning. it's unfortunate, but sadly these are the people who, even if in the minority, are the loudest and arguably the most powerful. they're also pretty disingenuous because anyone who opposes them are labeled to be against justice/against women. "what? you're against feminism? why do you hate women?!?" for example.

i'd also like to note that feminism != equality and that it is imo beyond repair.

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He said it because you baselessly equated "animal" with "ape", giving a general insult a racial connotation where there was none. By your metaphor, you called somebody out for calling his friend Nick, thinking he was trying to call him a nigger.

everything youre saying makes you sound like a cornball

i agree what w shes saying in the video, but shes being really combative and rude to some random dude which isnt cool

i mean context is a bit important but around here calling black ppl monkeys or apes or w/e isn't uncommon

What's the point of talking about this on the Internet. It's not like the other person is listening to you anyway.

this is completely ridiculous though because racist rhetoric has a history of associating african americans with apes and other animals, you cant just completely ignore the cultural context of the specific insult that someone decides to use.

But the ape insult was never used nor hinted at so your point makes no sense at all. "Animal" could refer to the woman behaving like a rabid dog, the notion that someone who yells "where is Egypt??" at anyone wearing dreads is about as smart as a cow, or a hundred other non-racist ideas.
The syllogism "All racists call black people apes", "Apes are animals"-->"Calling a black person an animal makes you a racist" fails a basic aristothelean logic check.
If someone calls a shredded black bodybuilder an animal, you wouldn't assume they're calling him an ape, would you?

i'm just going to blame your ignorant attitude on the extremely edgy tumblr linked on your profile

your argument is incredibly stupid, having knowledge about a stereotype and/or racism doesn't mean you're going to perpetuate it, that's like saying that if you know how to kill someone you're a murderer by association to the idea

ive heard the ape thing p underhanded and p blunt here so its kind of a common insult, sorry for assuming that someone who was describing a black person as loud and rude could maybe be using an insult that 99% of people i've heard describe black people as loud and rude use

"If someone calls a shredded black bodybuilder an animal, you wouldn't assume they're calling him an ape, would you?"
if he was being a complete fuckin asshole and goin off on somebody calling him an ape would probably not blow over well

because

sUrPrIsE

english is fairly contextual

you literally

just quoted my argument back at me

retard

You're making assumptions without any backup and getting mad at people for saying innocuous things for absolutely no reason. You are the woman.

its fine if you dont see the racial connotation in it i guess but if you're going to argue against social justice and hugbox mentality or w/e you should try to not format your speech in a way that it'd be pretty easy to interpret you as the exact kind of person who necessitated equality movements in the first place

on top of that, it'd just be nice to be able to discuss anything without people shittalking or insulting either side in really creative ways. "yre subhuman intellectually" isn't funny or interesting like yr an adult take a comedy class or euthanize yrself actually fuck niggers and fuck social justice 14/88 trump 2016 MAGA

everyone in that video looks like they're cosplaying as Hey Arnold characters

oh boy the good old "you shouldnt let me interpret your words the wrong way" argument

They kick me out of the hardware store.

This is worse then reading reddit

Who does this? Not me at least. Who are "the people"? What you are doing is exactly what I criticized. You make up some imaginary arbitrarily defined group of people to which probably no individual would ascribe themselves to. I'm not using the "bad apples" argument, because that would imply a set and defined group of which said bad apples are a part of.

Social justice and feminism in the broadest sense aren't groups or movements. Both are phrases that describe ways of thinking. Both carry heavy historical weight. Feminism could arguably be seen as a movement (depending on where (time & place) you look). People might identify themselves as feminist, but that still doesn't tell you much about what they think. Social justice is more like an overarching concept that encompasses many ideas. I don't see persons explicitly identifying themselves as social justice 'people'.

"The minority" of what group? Again, you are implying a group of which none of the individuals you would ascribe to this group would agree they'd be part of.

Again, the "they".

By the way, this is not part of my main argument, but: Humor me, and find me an example of somebody who said exactly what you said in quotation marks. You'd still be at n=1, not enough to make a "they" statement, but it'd be a start.

This quote (and what you said above) displays a typical internet-schooled type way of thinking about certain issues. On the internet, it's very easy to end up in spaces that act like bubbles, where likeminded people fuel a feedback loop of confirmation of opinions. Anything that is irrelevant or opposes a certain consensus world view is thrown out, because there simply is no person present that can oppose, or provide perspective and nuance. It's basically groupthink confirmation bias. This causes ideas to snowball into becoming more radical and polarizing.

I'm not saying that your views on feminism are wrong. I'm saying that this typical polarized black and white view is a caricature of reality, and also doesn't help anybody, on any side of the spectrum, going forward. Even worse, excessive "us/them" thinking (in general) becomes very dangerous when taken to its logical conclusion.