making drama out of nothing, teamfortress community everybody!

i thought one of the reasons natf2 was shut down was to avoid more pointless drama

no, now we can just do it in a pretty gotfrag looking site! :D

i'm making fun of him being an insane egomaniac who started off writing a pep talk, transitioned into blaming the team for his poor performance, and ended by repeatedly showing his lack of respect for you and lange. also his grammar a little bit.

i have no problem at all with someone trying their hardest to help their team win. i think you'll find out exactly what i am getting at as this season progresses. good luck with your flank problems.

why use pastebin when there's something called email?

one of his teammates put it up on pastebin, presumably to make fun of him privately to their friends (probably seanbud)

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phew it's gettin hot in here laser beams everywhere haha

the biggest thing i learned from this thread is searching for your name on pastebin can hurt sometimes

pastebin is an evil device

not this season

and winning most of the time doesn't excuse throwing your teammates under the bus when you lose, which is what he has done consistently, and publicly to boot

look i dont know why i started posting seriously. your demoman is a weird fucker who should be mocked, and you're going to lose because hes not very good, and he is probably gonna blame you. keep up the good postin y'all

I wish I could minus frag this more than once.

Nobody deserves to be mocked. I don't care how much of a dick, or how arrogant they are, that's just a low and insensitive thing to think about anyone. As far as I'm concerned, you are the arrogant dick.

And to repeat what was said earlier: You are calling him an arrogant asshole, yet you're basing this off a letter that he wrote for a very specific couple of people (i.e. not you). There's a very big difference in the way I talk to people I'm close to, and people that I hardly know.

It's sad to know that people like you are involved in this community. It's good to know that people like Pyyyour, Seanbud, Lange, and countless others are in it, because they help people and contribute to the community (and as far as all my experiences go with those people, they have been nothing but nice and helpful). Those people don't create drama for no apparent reason.

Does this count as publicly throwing them under the bus?

This is not as simple as labeling one side of this issue as "good" and the other side as "bad".

I do not think it was okay for Doggles to post this, nor do I think he should derive any pleasure from attempting to publically shame somebody.

At the same time, Brad did say things in this pastebin that he should not have. Things that I do not personally agree with, and that might even be counter-productive to the growth of the game. And when I first read this in November, the last paragraph or two certainly did seem like they was worded to passive-aggressively place blame on Sean and I. Ultimately however, this was meant to be an internal pep talk between only Brad and the rest Laser Beams.

Get this man a medal.

I think the only good to have come out of this thread is "_______ is an idea. A concept."
That shit cray.

it's ok. doggles likes to do this.

I read that as " bl4nk is an idea. A concept."

lots of people deserved to be mocked

shame exists because it evolved to serve a specific purpose in society

and that purpose is to prevent people from doing things that get them mocked

also if you read this and think that its ok to talk to your friends like that plz dont ever be my friend, i think lange's post makes it pretty obvious that they realize it's fuct too but don't want this to blow up worse than it has

he's talking about throwing flow / shrugger under the bus after their bad LAN performance when he played like shit as well

irrefutable logic

what do u think moral emotions r for u plebe

I'm not saying I agree with anything brad said, or with the way he said it. I'm only saying that he intended for just the Beams to read that. I have friends that I talk shit to/with, and some that we don't pull any punches when it comes to saying what we think. Maybe brad feels he has that sort of relationship with his teammates, that he can say some things like that.

All I'm saying is, if the letter wasn't meant for you to read, don't judge the person on it.

Edit: From Lange's post, maybe some of the beams didn't like the way the letter was worded. But that's between the members of the Lazer Beams, and not tf.tv.

It's not a big deal that it's been posted here. If you're worried about someone judging someone else for this kind of crap... Grow some balls tinkerbell.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxjlw4AnIX1rn1xxfo1_250.gif

http://pastebin.com/TCaYL1QQ

Before S13 started: LAZER BEAMZZZZZZZZZZ

i kept waiting for this thread to produce some grade-A drama, but it never did.

7/10

http://pastebin.com/zKJYPPXK

gotta have that confidence boost, man. but calling people bad is uncool.