The administration of I-Pugs a.k.a Iron Pugs... Is a complete joke, the owner, Bilbert employed a set of admins at the beginning. The start of it had players like Raeka and various other admins and mods from other pug groups as a show of good faith to the community. Slowly, people from all different scenes came in to contribute, iron players, ETF2L players, and open players came to the pugs. Then in-came the 10-14 year olds and they became mods, more and more the blatant employment of such mods became apparent as Bilbert employed them without a second look at their attitude to others. The current state of it is, two mods and a few admins come in every day to the pug group for hours at a time. The said mods become somewhat on the overtly aggressive side with people constantly antagonizing the current mods and cannot be heard due to the head-admins and owner come on lesser and lesser. With no other pug group that offers the same kind of services that Iron-Pugs and the large amount of players that come in to enjoy the pugs; the constant fear of mods banning players trying to have a small bit of fun is crushed. Any players that do above average in pugs constantly antagonize mods due to them not being able to play any "fragging" class. What I call for is a complete evaluation of the current staff as more than half of the mods and admins are on nearly once a month.
I have a few stories to tell if any of you'd wish for me to tell.
I have a few stories to tell if any of you'd wish for me to tell.
hey man either talk to bilbert about it or just dont play the pugs
making drama here wont solve anything
making drama here wont solve anything
Some mods were playing some of the pugs alongside the regular players, we're playing and their demo, one of the mods was playing Demo-Man and offclassed to spy, got one backstab and then switched back to demo. Alright? No, he then goes to play Charge'N'Targe Demo with the ham, and gets their med. I go and talk to one of the head fucking admins and then he says and I quote, "He wasn't throwing if he got the med". The mods constantly break rules they enforce without any kind of repercussion. The reason I haven't talked to Bilbert about it is, he never is on, he never is involved with the administration. So, somebody with 0 interactions with the mods can't do anything about it in the first place..
The problem is, that's basically the only pug service with players in my own skill level that can pull in players somewhat consistently...
alright everyone u mentioned is a no name thanks for the info Pug_Down
+ cmon they are iron pugs just go to newbie mixes
+ cmon they are iron pugs just go to newbie mixes
I don't want to point many fingers b/c I just want this to be a call to the administration of the pug-group.
which is why you should have just taken this to the admins and not tftv
Hello Pug_Down,
Thank you for the feedback. We always try to work with our community to resolve any issues that may occur. I'm happy to see that players care so much about Iron Pugs. I would rather that you brought your concerns directly to me, however.
Recently we added a number of new mods to our staff. We hold our staff to high standards, but we understand that new moderators may require experience before they meet these standards. This may be the cause of some disarray in recent pick-up-games.
I'm afraid I don't quite understand your specific complaints. Do you believe the mods are too strict or too slack on antagonistic players? We do have clearly-defined rules about offclassing to midfights, and a number of measures to keep sandbaggers from coming in and stomping.
Currently, we're concerting our efforts to ensure steadily successful and balanced pick-up-games, so we will definitely consider any feedback from our community.
Thank you for the feedback. We always try to work with our community to resolve any issues that may occur. I'm happy to see that players care so much about Iron Pugs. I would rather that you brought your concerns directly to me, however.
Recently we added a number of new mods to our staff. We hold our staff to high standards, but we understand that new moderators may require experience before they meet these standards. This may be the cause of some disarray in recent pick-up-games.
I'm afraid I don't quite understand your specific complaints. Do you believe the mods are too strict or too slack on antagonistic players? We do have clearly-defined rules about offclassing to midfights, and a number of measures to keep sandbaggers from coming in and stomping.
Currently, we're concerting our efforts to ensure steadily successful and balanced pick-up-games, so we will definitely consider any feedback from our community.
I feel as if the mods come from like too lax to too strict and downright aggressive. I can talk to you more on steam, but I really hope you take this to heart and reevaluate your staff please.
First of all, why did you post this on tf.tv? Nobody outside of ipugs is gonna care.
I think the mains guys that make these pugs not so fun are Find and Seductive.
Now Find is a cool dude most of the time but recently he has been really aggressive and sometimes even more cancerous than me or any other shit memer. (Including you infinity)
And Seductive is just ban-happy, i'm pretty sure he just really wants to ban people, i mean, the decision of the admins of giving seductive mod by itself was a pretty bad decision, he was never really respected enough and he has always been childish af.
I mean, he just banned a guy for saying fuck you, personally i would've given the guy a warning and tell him to calm, if he keeps saying that, i'll give him a 24h ban and that's it. Meanwhile Seduc just went directly to the 1 week ban.
Now there's a difference between enforcing the rules and being a complete dickwad, And both find and seductive are being a bunch of dickwads.
Firewolf and Slayer have been good mods so far, although they could host more, while squeeble has never hosted.
Every single other mod and admin is fine.
Like, these pugs have always been cancerous and not simply the best, but right now they're way more cancerous than before.
according to seductive this post is "mature but fake", ?????
I think the mains guys that make these pugs not so fun are Find and Seductive.
Now Find is a cool dude most of the time but recently he has been really aggressive and sometimes even more cancerous than me or any other shit memer. (Including you infinity)
And Seductive is just ban-happy, i'm pretty sure he just really wants to ban people, i mean, the decision of the admins of giving seductive mod by itself was a pretty bad decision, he was never really respected enough and he has always been childish af.
I mean, he just banned a guy for saying fuck you, personally i would've given the guy a warning and tell him to calm, if he keeps saying that, i'll give him a 24h ban and that's it. Meanwhile Seduc just went directly to the 1 week ban.
Now there's a difference between enforcing the rules and being a complete dickwad, And both find and seductive are being a bunch of dickwads.
Firewolf and Slayer have been good mods so far, although they could host more, while squeeble has never hosted.
Every single other mod and admin is fine.
Like, these pugs have always been cancerous and not simply the best, but right now they're way more cancerous than before.
according to seductive this post is "mature but fake", ?????