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Cheater/Hacker thread
1201
#1201
3 Frags +
Purei hovered over the class icons and it shows the kill and damage accuracy. Also 120+ hours and 44:7 kd?

The only log with accuracy from that guy is this one: http://logs.tf/907928?highlight=76561197973141060

And typically there is no accuracy recorded for heavy (too many shots fired?) But if you however over other class icons in that log, you will see a column that says Acc. What is listed under there is the accuracy stat.

That particular player could be a skilled alt, but obviously there is still a slight possibility they could be a cheater, but there doesn't seem to be enough data for any real speculation yet. If you think he's fishy, bookmark his logs.tf profile, and check back every few days to see if there are any suspicious logs.

[quote=Pure]i hovered over the class icons and it shows the kill and damage accuracy. Also 120+ hours and 44:7 kd?[/quote]

The only log with accuracy from that guy is this one: http://logs.tf/907928?highlight=76561197973141060

And typically there is no accuracy recorded for heavy (too many shots fired?) But if you however over other class icons in that log, you will see a column that says Acc. What is listed under there is the accuracy stat.

That particular player could be a skilled alt, but obviously there is still a slight possibility they could be a cheater, but there doesn't seem to be enough data for any real speculation yet. If you think he's fishy, bookmark his logs.tf profile, and check back every few days to see if there are any suspicious logs.
1202
#1202
2 Frags +
Purei hovered over the class icons and it shows the kill and damage accuracy. Also 120+ hours and 44:7 kd?

The % is the percentage of kills with that weapon. Not all servers show accuracy stats. If they do they look like for example in this log http://logs.tf/907774?highlight=76561198004476128

You can see the kill% stat and accuracy stat are different.

Edit: God damn ninjad!

[quote=Pure]i hovered over the class icons and it shows the kill and damage accuracy. Also 120+ hours and 44:7 kd?[/quote]
The % is the percentage of kills with that weapon. Not all servers show accuracy stats. If they do they look like for example in this log http://logs.tf/907774?highlight=76561198004476128

You can see the kill% stat and accuracy stat are different.

Edit: God damn ninjad!
1203
#1203
9 Frags +
MIndEdit: God damn ninjad!

By about 3 hours. I think you need better ninja training.

Full points for trying to be helpful though!

[quote=MInd]Edit: God damn ninjad![/quote]
By about 3 hours. I think you need better ninja training.

Full points for trying to be helpful though!
1204
#1204
9 Frags +
DigresserMIndEdit: God damn ninjad!By about 3 hours. I think you need better ninja training.

Full points for trying to be helpful though!

I'm a real slow typer.

[quote=Digresser][quote=MInd]Edit: God damn ninjad![/quote]
By about 3 hours. I think you need better ninja training.

Full points for trying to be helpful though![/quote]
I'm a real slow typer.
1205
#1205
5 Frags +

Found a hacker (Third Man) on TF2Center and submitted a ban request via their forums, along with a potato clip of a super obvious mid-fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_xXVvdDG8). My forum post says he is banned, and I received confirmation from an admin about it, too. I think it doesn't show he is banned on his tf2center profile because hacking bans are "sensitive."

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198005769151
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005769151
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198005769151

He was doing crazy chip damage from mid/long range, and had weird positioning and movement. There was one really fishy mid-fight which I went back and viewed from his POV. I added him after the match and asked him about it and he said we were probably just closer than I thought. He was also firing at the ground/wall often. Apologies to my teammates who had to hear me raging at "this fucking scout and his chip" the entire match.

stv here (mid-fight at tick 199250):
http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197964045534-90376-16-20150630.zip

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Also, polar_sniping keeps posting in this thread, and I'd like to point out that he was debunked by $layer in a clip posted in this very thread. Also, be warned he keeps adding good snipers claiming to also be a good sniper. And, in return for the harassment I received from plr and his friends when I called him out in tf2center main chat, I'll also point you to his tf2center unban request where he admitted to hacking.

Found a hacker (Third Man) on TF2Center and submitted a ban request via their forums, along with a potato clip of a super obvious mid-fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_xXVvdDG8). My forum post says he is banned, and I received confirmation from an admin about it, too. I think it doesn't show he is banned on his tf2center profile because hacking bans are "sensitive."

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198005769151
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198005769151
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198005769151

He was doing crazy chip damage from mid/long range, and had weird positioning and movement. There was one really fishy mid-fight which I went back and viewed from his POV. I added him after the match and asked him about it and he said we were probably just closer than I thought. He was also firing at the ground/wall often. Apologies to my teammates who had to hear me raging at "this fucking scout and his chip" the entire match.

stv here (mid-fight at tick 199250):
http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197964045534-90376-16-20150630.zip

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Also, [url=http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198072302537]polar_sniping[/url] keeps posting in this thread, and I'd like to point out that he was debunked by $layer in [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znwfmui21V4]a clip[/url] posted in [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/417642/cheater-hacker-thread]this very thread[/url]. Also, be warned he keeps adding good snipers claiming to also be a good sniper. And, in return for the harassment I received from plr and his friends when I called him out in tf2center main chat, I'll also point you to [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5131-polar-steam-0156018404/] his tf2center unban request[/url] where he admitted to hacking.
1206
#1206
8 Frags +
BSPEThird man stuff

He's already been banned on TF2C. UGC wise I'll speed it up a bit

[quote=BSPE]Third man stuff[/quote]

He's already been banned on TF2C. UGC wise I'll speed it up a bit
1207
#1207
0 Frags +
BSPE---------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, polar_sniping keeps posting in this thread, and I'd like to point out that he was debunked by $layer in a clip posted in this very thread. Also, be warned he keeps adding good snipers claiming to also be a good sniper. And, in return for the harassment I received from plr and his friends when I called him out in tf2center main chat, I'll also point you to his tf2center unban request where he admitted to hacking.

He added me a while ago after he was TF2C banned. Basically he said he was sorry and that now he is playing legit. He knows he's not going to be unbanned on center. I will mention that at least from my perspective, he does seem to have "turned from his dark ways" and has reported a couple hackers to me that did turn out to be real hackers, and has found a couple players streaming their lmaobox on twitch. To me anyways he seems to be sincere in trying to help out the community, although I have no idea if he is harassing other players or not.

[quote=BSPE]---------------------------------------------------------------------
Also, [url=http://tf2center.com/profile/76561198072302537]polar_sniping[/url] keeps posting in this thread, and I'd like to point out that he was debunked by $layer in [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znwfmui21V4]a clip[/url] posted in [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/417642/cheater-hacker-thread]this very thread[/url]. Also, be warned he keeps adding good snipers claiming to also be a good sniper. And, in return for the harassment I received from plr and his friends when I called him out in tf2center main chat, I'll also point you to [url=http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5131-polar-steam-0156018404/] his tf2center unban request[/url] where he admitted to hacking.[/quote]

He added me a while ago after he was TF2C banned. Basically he said he was sorry and that now he is playing legit. He knows he's not going to be unbanned on center. I will mention that at least from my perspective, he does seem to have "turned from his dark ways" and has reported a couple hackers to me that did turn out to be real hackers, and has found a couple players streaming their lmaobox on twitch. To me anyways he seems to be sincere in trying to help out the community, although I have no idea if he is harassing other players or not.
1208
#1208
-12 Frags +

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1209
#1209
3 Frags +

if polar is helping catch cheaters why does it matter that he cheated too? i'm not saying he's necessarily gone legit, but why bash on someone for trying to help?

if polar is helping catch cheaters why does it matter that he cheated too? i'm not saying he's necessarily gone legit, but why bash on someone for trying to help?
1210
#1210
4 Frags +
fatswimdudeif polar is helping catch cheaters why does it matter that he cheated too? i'm not saying he's necessarily gone legit, but why bash on someone for trying to help?

I don't want him to be able to use the fact that he has caught cheaters to boost his own reputation, which should have an indelible mark on it. Also:

fatswimdudesmobocan you find an STV/POV demo of him cheating recently since he was considered to be so obvious back then? i looked at one really quick but the stats were average and his play was not great, but his opponents weren't great either.
does it matter when he cheated?
[quote=fatswimdude]if polar is helping catch cheaters why does it matter that he cheated too? i'm not saying he's necessarily gone legit, but why bash on someone for trying to help?[/quote]

I don't want him to be able to use the fact that he has caught cheaters to boost his own reputation, which should have an indelible mark on it. Also:

[quote=fatswimdude][quote=smobo]can you find an STV/POV demo of him cheating recently since he was considered to be so obvious back then? i looked at one really quick but the stats were average and his play was not great, but his opponents weren't great either.[/quote]

does it matter when he cheated?[/quote]
1211
#1211
-17 Frags +

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1212
#1212
1 Frags +
BSPEfatswimdudesmobocan you find an STV/POV demo of him cheating recently since he was considered to be so obvious back then? i looked at one really quick but the stats were average and his play was not great, but his opponents weren't great either.does it matter when he cheated?

ok im lost in quotes now but the point is its a whole different scenario. sure i wouldnt trust polar to not cheat just because hes helping out, but him being a cheater doesnt make his help less legitimate.

[quote=BSPE][quote=fatswimdude][quote=smobo]can you find an STV/POV demo of him cheating recently since he was considered to be so obvious back then? i looked at one really quick but the stats were average and his play was not great, but his opponents weren't great either.[/quote]does it matter when he cheated?[/quote][/quote]
ok im lost in quotes now but the point is its a whole different scenario. sure i wouldnt trust polar to not cheat just because hes helping out, but him being a cheater doesnt make his help less legitimate.
1213
#1213
7 Frags +

| steamname: [OKIE]Soldier
| steam3ID: [U:1:108908314]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:54454157
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198069174042
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198069174042
http://logs.tf/profile/76561198069174042
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198069174042

blatantly using walls and aimbot in mge. didnt record a demo though :( also has a ugc profile although he has no history. he already has more than a few bans for cheating.

http://sourcebans.snipezilla.com/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:54454157&advType=steamid&Submit
http://i960.org/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&hideinactive=true&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:54454157&advType=steamid

| steamname: [OKIE]Soldier
| steam3ID: [U:1:108908314]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:0:54454157
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198069174042
| customURL:
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198069174042
http://logs.tf/profile/76561198069174042
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198069174042

blatantly using walls and aimbot in mge. didnt record a demo though :( also has a ugc profile although he has no history. he already has more than a few bans for cheating.


http://sourcebans.snipezilla.com/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:54454157&advType=steamid&Submit
http://i960.org/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&hideinactive=true&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:54454157&advType=steamid
1214
#1214
13 Frags +

Hello all,

Following kKaltUu's TF2C resignation, I will be handling the majority of cases posted here, as well as the cheating reports on TF2C. I still have access to assistance from ETF2L, although in typical UGC fashion, I cannot guarantee fast bans for these players in any league or community, as I am abroad for the next two months.

I'd also like to remind people that this is not the place to accuse, but rather to post evidence. Posting a name will almost guarantee that any future evidence from the accused individual will no longer exist (unless they live under a rock, which is possible). If you feel that a player is suspicious, but lack incriminating evidence and worry about gathering it, feel free to send me a PM on tf.tv. I will keep an eye out, and do my own digging. Cheers!

Hello all,

Following kKaltUu's TF2C resignation, I will be handling the majority of cases posted here, as well as the cheating reports on TF2C. I still have access to assistance from ETF2L, although in typical UGC fashion, I cannot guarantee fast bans for these players in any league or community, as I am abroad for the next two months.

I'd also like to remind people that this is not the place to accuse, but rather to post evidence. Posting a name will almost guarantee that any future evidence from the accused individual will no longer exist (unless they live under a rock, which is possible). If you feel that a player is suspicious, but lack incriminating evidence and worry about gathering it, feel free to send me a PM on tf.tv. I will keep an eye out, and do my own digging. Cheers!
1215
#1215
5 Frags +

Likewise, if you are suspicious of some kid cheating and can't get a hold of Terry feel free to send it my way as I usually tell Terry anyways when I'm 95% certain the player is a cheater.

Likewise, if you are suspicious of some kid cheating and can't get a hold of Terry feel free to send it my way as I usually tell Terry anyways when I'm 95% certain the player is a cheater.
1216
#1216
16 Frags +

Got another cheater.
This kid has been alting as me for a while now and I recently was able to confirm the player. I've had suspicions on who it was but it's good to know I was right.

The alt steamID: STEAM_0:0:130478000
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198221221728
Ban from a community that shows his IP: http://impulse-gamers.com/sb/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A130478000&Submit=
IP: 174.49.181.86

Asked around a few community owners if they have a matching player with that IP and I found one:
http://i.imgur.com/L1jfBH4.png
Player Name: Leires
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:74061496
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198108388721
IP: 174.49.181.86
UGC Profile: http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198108388721

Player is good friends with Heavy Whuppins so I can't honestly say I'm surprised.

GG

Got another cheater.
This kid has been alting as me for a while now and I recently was able to confirm the player. I've had suspicions on who it was but it's good to know I was right.

The alt steamID: STEAM_0:0:130478000
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198221221728
Ban from a community that shows his IP: http://impulse-gamers.com/sb/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0%3A0%3A130478000&Submit=
IP: 174.49.181.86

Asked around a few community owners if they have a matching player with that IP and I found one:
http://i.imgur.com/L1jfBH4.png
Player Name: Leires
SteamID: STEAM_0:1:74061496
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198108388721
IP: 174.49.181.86
UGC Profile: http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198108388721

Player is good friends with Heavy Whuppins so I can't honestly say I'm surprised.

GG
1217
#1217
10 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/I6DR6ND.jpg

I spent entirely too much time on this

[img]http://i.imgur.com/I6DR6ND.jpg[/img]

I spent entirely too much time on this
1218
#1218
2 Frags +

Played against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.

Played against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.
1219
#1219
0 Frags +
AltoPlayed against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.

I have a few IP's logged to this guy. The most recent is this one. 73.143.187.53. Valid as of july 4th.
http://puu.sh/iQNYH/069665c8e4.png
No alts on the other ips that i have logged.

[quote=Alto]Played against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.[/quote]


I have a few IP's logged to this guy. The most recent is this one. 73.143.187.53. Valid as of july 4th.
http://puu.sh/iQNYH/069665c8e4.png
No alts on the other ips that i have logged.
1220
#1220
13 Frags +

Haha
Leires got caught and he's trying to pull the "Heavy whuppins came over my house!" card just like he did when whuppins was caught hacking.

yea, so you mean to tell me that whuppins was on his alt and your alt at the same time?
Child please.
You got caught, end of story.

Haha
Leires got caught and he's trying to pull the "Heavy whuppins came over my house!" card just like he did when whuppins was caught hacking.

yea, so you mean to tell me that whuppins was on his alt and your alt at the same time?
Child please.
You got caught, end of story.
1221
#1221
-4 Frags +

nevermind

nevermind
1222
#1222
6 Frags +
Pellovleyanicca-stuff about [OKIE]Soldier
ive played him in mge multiple times and he just seems like an above-average mgelord. nothing special or sketchy regarding aim from my experience, but maybe i just never noticed how "blatant" he was... also none of his logs have accuracy stats, and he doesnt have a lot more shotgun kills than rocket launcher kills, a red flag for an aimbotter in ultiduo

idk about the server bans he has, though... i could always be wrong

the evidence is kinda sketchy, and i didnt record a demo which would make it clear but he was without a doubt cheating the time i played him. he was clearly using walls with some of the prefires he went for and blatantly using some aim assist. the last life of the time we played he jumped and shotgunned me for 80 80 80 until i died with no issue. his rockets were average but his positioning was awful and his shotgun was nothing but meatshots.

if i see him again ill be sure to record a demo. i used to admin for justplay and ive played cheaters in mge before and it wasnt hard to tell from my standpoint. maybe he doesnt do it all the time, but there's no doubt in my mind he was cheating when i played him. :( either way id keep an eye on him if you see him in mge again.

[quote=Pellovley][quote=anicca]-stuff about [OKIE]Soldier[/quote]

ive played him in mge multiple times and he just seems like an above-average mgelord. nothing special or sketchy regarding aim from my experience, but maybe i just never noticed how "blatant" he was... also none of his logs have accuracy stats, and he doesnt have a lot more shotgun kills than rocket launcher kills, a red flag for an aimbotter in ultiduo

idk about the server bans he has, though... i could always be wrong[/quote]

the evidence is kinda sketchy, and i didnt record a demo which would make it clear but he was without a doubt cheating the time i played him. he was clearly using walls with some of the prefires he went for and blatantly using some aim assist. the last life of the time we played he jumped and shotgunned me for 80 80 80 until i died with no issue. his rockets were average but his positioning was awful and his shotgun was nothing but meatshots.

if i see him again ill be sure to record a demo. i used to admin for justplay and ive played cheaters in mge before and it wasnt hard to tell from my standpoint. maybe he doesnt do it all the time, but there's no doubt in my mind he was cheating when i played him. :( either way id keep an eye on him if you see him in mge again.
1223
#1223
19 Frags +

http://pastebin.com/WTSGF5H9

I played with him a long time ago on a sniper only orange server and he added me for tips about sniping or somethin then the only time we talked was when he needed help with something about his computer

we even played MGE once a while back and he was really good for his age which is around 14 I believe rip my tf2 son :(

http://pastebin.com/WTSGF5H9

I played with him a long time ago on a sniper only orange server and he added me for tips about sniping or somethin then the only time we talked was when he needed help with something about his computer

we even played MGE once a while back and he was really good for his age which is around 14 I believe rip my tf2 son :(
1224
#1224
12 Frags +

[OKIE]Soldier: if someone was reking me hard
[OKIE]Soldier: i rekt them harder

alright nevermind guess hes just a shitstain hacker now

[OKIE]Soldier: if someone was reking me hard
[OKIE]Soldier: i rekt them harder

alright nevermind guess hes just a shitstain hacker now
1225
#1225
3 Frags +
AltoPlayed against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.

The 80% sniper accuracy coupled with ~700 DPM on sniper in 6's is hard to argue with. The scatter gun accuracy is reasonable though.

[quote=Alto]Played against this guy in a center a couple days ago.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/0000000000113/
Has a VAC from CSGO two weeks ago (that he says is for a bhop script in HL1), immediately started playing tf2 after and going off as scout.

http://logs.tf/887282?highlight=76561198122846271
http://logs.tf/887632?highlight=76561198122846271
Are the only logs with accuracy stats, he broke 75% accuracy in both of them.
Furthermore, logs of him doing well only started appearing on 6/23, which should be the day he got CSGO VAC'd, the ones from before then are laughably bad. Probably got caught cheating in CSGO and moved on to TF2.

No UGC history, STEAM_0:1:81290271.[/quote]

The 80% sniper accuracy coupled with ~700 DPM on sniper in 6's is hard to argue with. The scatter gun accuracy is reasonable though.
1226
#1226
-6 Frags +

Name: Grim/gr:m/grm

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561197986941186
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986941186
http://ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197986941186

I asked a friend of mine about this guy possibly hacking and immediately got flak from our mutual friends, and even got an invite to the group "get good soon" from one of his friends whom I have never met, which just makes it more obvious that he is hacking.

Here's a clip from a tf2center lobby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGu4lAtviQM

Highlight is at 13-16 seconds. Bullets cluster on players who are on the other side of the stairs: 3 shots of minigun clumps which even split to cover the not-visible players. Oops.

stv, tick 82500: http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197972421260-92377-7-20150707.zip
log: http://logs.tf/912933?highlight=76561197986941186

edit: a word

Name: Grim/gr:m/grm

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561197986941186
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986941186
http://ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197986941186

I asked a friend of mine about this guy possibly hacking and immediately got flak from our mutual friends, and even got an invite to the group "get good soon" from one of his friends whom I have never met, which just makes it more obvious that he is hacking.

Here's a clip from a tf2center lobby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGu4lAtviQM

Highlight is at 13-16 seconds. Bullets cluster on players who are on the other side of the stairs: 3 shots of minigun clumps which even split to cover the not-visible players. Oops.

stv, tick 82500: http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197972421260-92377-7-20150707.zip
log: http://logs.tf/912933?highlight=76561197986941186

edit: a word
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#1227
6 Frags +
BSPEName: Grim/gr:m/grm

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561197986941186
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986941186
http://ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197986941186

I asked a friend of mine about this guy possibly hacking and immediately got flak from our mutual friends, and even got an invite to the group "get good soon" from one of his friends whom I have never met, which \jst makes it more obvious that he is hacking.

Here's a clip from a tf2center lobby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGu4lAtviQM

Highlight is at 13-16 seconds. Bullets cluster on players who are on the other side of the stairs: 3 shots of minigun clumps which even split to cover the not-visible players. Oops.

stv: http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197972421260-92377-7-20150707.zip
log: http://logs.tf/912933?highlight=76561197986941186

The same person who is claiming this person is hacking is claiming I am hacking as well. I expect to see a post on it soon. Regardless, this player is not hacking. The bullet "clumps" are from bad registration because this is a video from an stv at like 5% speed.

You're looking at the laggy bullet registration from a mouse flick over about a half of a second in real time. If there were any other proof at all besides this one coincidence you would have it and this is nothing. Bullets come out in clumps whenever he shoots his minigun at all, and the only reason you find this suspicious is because it happens to sort of line up with some players through a wall but this isn't hacking at all.

Didn't even include a view with wireframes?!

[quote=BSPE]Name: Grim/gr:m/grm

http://tf2center.com/profile/76561197986941186
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197986941186
http://ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561197986941186

I asked a friend of mine about this guy possibly hacking and immediately got flak from our mutual friends, and even got an invite to the group "get good soon" from one of his friends whom I have never met, which \jst makes it more obvious that he is hacking.

Here's a clip from a tf2center lobby:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGu4lAtviQM

Highlight is at 13-16 seconds. Bullets cluster on players who are on the other side of the stairs: 3 shots of minigun clumps which even split to cover the not-visible players. Oops.

stv: http://na.serveme.tf/uploads/76561197972421260-92377-7-20150707.zip
log: http://logs.tf/912933?highlight=76561197986941186[/quote]

The same person who is claiming this person is hacking is claiming I am hacking as well. I expect to see a post on it soon. Regardless, this player is not hacking. The bullet "clumps" are from bad registration because this is a video from an stv at like 5% speed.

You're looking at the laggy bullet registration from a mouse flick over about a half of a second in real time. If there were any other proof at all besides this one coincidence you would have it and this is nothing. Bullets come out in clumps whenever he shoots his minigun at all, and the only reason you find this suspicious is because it happens to sort of line up with some players through a wall but this isn't hacking at all.

Didn't even include a view with wireframes?!
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#1228
-9 Frags +
jaredthe only reason you find this suspicious is because it happens to sort of line up with some players through a wall

Yes.

jaredDidn't even include a view with wireframes?!

They would have occluded the bulletholes. Feel free to run it with r_drawothermodels 2 to convince yourself. That's what you should be doing instead of appealing to "laggy bullet registration." You should watch the whole stv. This was just the most damning evidence.

edit: here it is even slower (this one is actually 5%) with othermodels: https://youtu.be/5hx1MUT3Zmk

[quote=jared]the only reason you find this suspicious is because it happens to sort of line up with some players through a wall [/quote]

Yes.

[quote=jared]
Didn't even include a view with wireframes?![/quote]
They would have occluded the bulletholes. Feel free to run it with r_drawothermodels 2 to convince yourself. That's what you should be doing instead of appealing to "laggy bullet registration." You should watch the whole stv. This was just the most damning evidence.

edit: here it is even slower (this one is actually 5%) with othermodels: https://youtu.be/5hx1MUT3Zmk
1229
#1229
4 Frags +

Here's a fullspeed version of it (unfortunately no sound)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGorzZ4TtY&feature=youtu.be

I guess slowing anything down enough just makes it look like hacking...?

Here's a fullspeed version of it (unfortunately no sound)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sGorzZ4TtY&feature=youtu.be

I guess slowing anything down enough just makes it look like hacking...?
1230
#1230
1 Frags +

Most of our team that game would not agree with you at all (I was the Sniper on the team opposite of Grim). Grim isn't someone I'm the most fond of but he was not remotely suspicious that game and honestly saying he was hacking just seems ludicrous to me. He was pocketed which normally wouldn't work but our team was lacking in a few areas and played the map poorly in comparison to their team which gave him a lot of free reign on us that he should not of have.

Most of our team that game would not agree with you at all (I was the Sniper on the team opposite of Grim). Grim isn't someone I'm the most fond of but he was not remotely suspicious that game and honestly saying he was hacking just seems ludicrous to me. He was pocketed which normally wouldn't work but our team was lacking in a few areas and played the map poorly in comparison to their team which gave him a lot of free reign on us that he should not of have.
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