fairy more like badmin

Do you actually think you should be allowed to sit in the other team's mumble and play spy? just wondering if that seems right to you

Obvious that it's an alt? 70%+ heals and fulltime kritz/vacc tends to result in good stats for heavy.

http://i.imgur.com/qfTFJq9.png

just be glad you werent that guy

My friend just played a lobby where this guy single-handedly carried on a 127 hour account

Mammy:
http://logs.tf/890406?highlight=76561198042848428
86% scatter accuracy and 461dpm with 11% of the heals.

I don't know if that's enough evidence or where I could get a demo to watch of it, but it's seems fishy enough to bring up.

Weird it's like this Mammy guy copied Miggys experience from Miggys page and copied it to his own.
Doubt it's Miggys alt so this guy probably just found some random person and copied their experience definatly sketchy as fuck

For reference:
Miggy: http://steamcommunity.com/id/migeto
Mammy: http://steamcommunity.com/id/pen13/

Edit: Miggys PC is broken from what I can tell in his name so I really don't think this guy is Miggy on an alt even with the past alias being similar

Right now that Mammy guy is in an idle server probably racking up hours to seem legit.

Your wording is actually pretty laughable here. You suggest that he was caught wallhacking on tf2center and banned because of it. In reality, one of the players who abused the rep system in game went back and used the 30 second smear video (made by you) as "proof" to the admins of bo4r being a cheater. I'm not surprised that the tf2center admins in all their infinite wisdom accepted that 30 second video as proof rather than actually watching the demo. First you make a video carefully edited to accuse him of cheating, then use others' reactions to that video as further "proof" of cheating? I thought we were looking for the truth here.

why are you defending bo4r though

What do you mean by carefully edited? I generally just see him playing a demo and skipping to obvious parts. Also did the admins ever claim that they didn't watch the demo? So confused on what you're basing all this information off from.

you and i both know that's not what happened but this isn't the thread to argue about that

http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=14317

Bo4r is on vipa's team. I guess winning UGC silver is that important to him.

That's one of heavywhuppins buddies who was hacking on servers while using my name as an alias.
From what I recall he and 2 or 3 of his cronies were doing that for a few days

Actually the reality is that the admin doesnt even seem to be aware of the video.
If he was I'm sure he wouldn't have changed his mind

I have helped to catch multiple hackers in the past, so I'm not sure what you're on about here. Remember that bo4r is still A-okay in the eyes of UGC. As long as that is the case, I will continue to defend my teammate.

Not the case. Check this out: http://forums.tf2center.com/topic/5611-breakfestt-httpsteamcommunitycomprofiles76561198076702935/

Didn't know of this other link
But I guess it still proves my point, they saw the video and then reinstated the ban on bo4r

Here's a photo I snagged of 2 of the accounts a few weeks back
http://i.imgur.com/Jezsh2G.png
In case it's not obvious, neither of those accounts are mine.
2 of the accounts used my full alias "Miggy|FLan.tf LFT/RingMe" and a third used just "Miggy"
I was able to find out the owner of that third account because he stupidly went to some community servers that I not only frequent but know the owners of.
Using the IP of the ALT we found out it actually belonged to a player who frequented both of those communities.
He has been banned from one of those communities, not sure about the other, never followed up.

There's nothing wrong with his wording, he said what is literally and factually the case: bo4r is banned from TF2C for wallhacking. That is the case. It doesn't hide anything.

If a "smear" video contains nothing but the person's gameplay, then that should really say something about the person.

You keep going on about how it's 30 seconds long. Watch 10 seconds of this video and tell me the person didn't hack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfHQXltVRBY

THIS PERSON IS NOT BO4R

And "carefully edited" would imply he changed the gameplay in any way. He just took the most clear moments. Exactly like I did when I made the above video.

The guy in the video i posted above has three accounts. He rang in an iron match and got VAC banned last night. The match was overturned and is completely handled.

The three accounts of the cheater:
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198011131380
http://www.ugcleague.com/players_page.cfm?player_id=76561198121056034
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198203733639

Iron and Steel players: please don't use the TF2Center main chat to find ringers, beacause you have no idea who will answer. Add the teams you play and show good sportsmanship. You'll make a network of potential subs by doing that.

I call it a smear video because it shows two clips of him getting lucky shots on players with wireframes on that make it look like he is aware that the player is about to peek - it does not show the many times that he died, was outsniped, missed shots, or was completely unaware of a player that he would have seen with wallhacks. I saw those because I watched the entire match, both halves, with wireframes on, twice. The video does not tell the whole story. I've hit some godlike airshots in my time just by pure luck, but would making a 30 (or ten) second video detailing those prove I could play soldier at a high level? No, you'd have to watch a whole match of mine to tell that I'm trash at soldier and only hit those few shots because I got lucky, or the player strafed into my shot. This is the same kind of instance. The ten second video of the other sniper showed inhuman aim and reaction time and is obviously cheating, but that is an aimbot and this is a case of bo4r supposedly seeing players through walls. How that comparison is not flawed is beyond me.

note: the word smear is also appropriate because the video is made solely for the purpose of feeding barycenter's ego. Anyone could see that simply by the fact that he posted logs of him outsniping bo4r one time in the description.

I'm not interested in arguing further with someone on a public forum regarding a decision that hasn't even been made yet, but I do want to make my point, and the facts that back it up, clear. Hopefully I have.

hackers so dumb that they join servers when idling smh

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If bo4r has any other POVs to share it could help dismiss the idea that these are isolated incidents of luck.

when i saw the size of this thread, I got excited thinking we had ourselves another Ezell situation.

disappointed.

Is there a center admin who can tell us if barycenter's video was the only evidence used, or if there was more investigating?

VoidWhisperer sent me a friend request, but has yet to say anything.

Can't disclose AC information about that.

Played a lobby with this dude.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198062010072

Here are the logs.
http://logs.tf/891398?highlight=76561198062010072

Has 274 hours, and had 77% accuracy in the lobby. Don't have an STV, but don't think we need one...
Also submitted report to TF2C forums, but just so you guys know.

I'm just wondering, arn't some of these people just lucky? And their hours don't mean too much, you can be offline in steam and still be online in the game.

Played a lobby with this guy, with a friend on the other team.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198229367140

Both of us are pretty convinced he's a hacker. A look at his previous lobbies (all within the last 2 days) http://logs.tf/profile/76561198229367140 shows incredibly high damage on classes such as Scout and Pyro, all through hitscan methods.

The lobby I played with him he had 0 gamesense, holding W constantly and just calling "<class> dead". My friend told me he/his team never saw him miss a shot. I couldn't find any STV downloads on any of his games, or accuracy stats. (I found one and it was like, 65% or something? cant find it again)

This guy has 111 hours in the game, with no UGC experience. Seems fishy that he's putting out so much damage. I didn't report it on TF2C's forum since it's largely just questionable numbers and no real evidence.

Here's his main
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198141848249

VAC Banned

https://firepoweredgaming.com/sourcebans/index.php?p=banlist&advSearch=STEAM_0:0:134550706&advType=steamid

Scrimmed bo4rs team and we definitely thought something was fishy, hit an insane amount of shots and completely carried his team. Hope he gets banned from UGC sooner rather than later.