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4v4 New Map Tournament
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#1
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Hi folks, I'm hosting a North American 4v4 tournament to test out the new maps.

"4s lol"

I know that 4s doesn't have the best reputation (and I completely agree) but I've found it's a very accessible entry point for newer players. When folks can come start a team needing only 3 other people, in a format that isn't taken too seriously, it gives them a chance to transition from a pub atmosphere to something more structured. If they like the competitive atmosphere and want more, I think it'll make people more willing to jump to 6s. Unfortunately, some of the maps that have been run in 4s over previous seasons haven't been the greatest. Maps like plr_hysteria, cp_mojave, etc. don't offer the same stepping stone to 6s that other maps do. Because of this, I want to ensure that every map in 4s is playtested, polished, and can offer a hint at the dynamic play players will find as they graduate to other formats and higher divisions.

I'm looking for teams and players who have Silver+ experience in any format or any ESEA experience to sign up. My goal is to get these new maps tested by players with a decent amount of experience and a better understanding of how the maps play; that way there'll be solid and constructive feedback for admins and mappers.

Post your team here (please include UGC/ESEA profiles) to sign up. If you have the requisite experience but can't find 3 of your buds to play with, you can post here as well and I'll match you up with other players to make a pug team for you.

The tournament will be held May 9 and it will potentially be casted.

The maps will be those under consideration by 4v4 admins for use next season. I don't have the list yet, but I'll post it here in a few days when I know. The one map I do know will be included is cp_alamo, a 3CP map by Ethosaur. If you have a 4s map you'd like to nominate for inclusion, please tell me here.

There's a small prize pot of 8 keys for the winner. I'm hoping to do a Bo1 round robin format for the first stage, with a Bo3 for the finals. This depends on the amount of signups and player feedback, so let me know if y'all would prefer something different.

If you have any questions you can PM me here, post them on the reddit discussion, ask me on Steam, post them on the UGC forum thread, or post them on the Steam group. If none of those options work for you follow me on Instagram or add me on Snapchat (not really).

tl;dr: DM your way through a few 4s maps, help newer players and mapmakers, and win 8 keys, probably more than any of us will ever make off of 6s.

Hi folks, I'm hosting a North American 4v4 tournament to test out the new maps.

[b]"4s lol"[/b]

I know that 4s doesn't have the best reputation (and I completely agree) but I've found it's a very accessible entry point for newer players. When folks can come start a team needing only 3 other people, in a format that isn't taken too seriously, it gives them a chance to transition from a pub atmosphere to something more structured. If they like the competitive atmosphere and want more, I think it'll make people more willing to jump to 6s. Unfortunately, some of the maps that have been run in 4s over previous seasons haven't been the greatest. Maps like plr_hysteria, cp_mojave, etc. don't offer the same stepping stone to 6s that other maps do. Because of this, I want to ensure that every map in 4s is playtested, polished, and can offer a hint at the dynamic play players will find as they graduate to other formats and higher divisions.

I'm looking for teams and players who have Silver+ experience in any format or any ESEA experience to sign up. My goal is to get these new maps tested by players with a decent amount of experience and a better understanding of how the maps play; that way there'll be solid and constructive feedback for admins and mappers.

Post your team here (please include UGC/ESEA profiles) to sign up. If you have the requisite experience but can't find 3 of your buds to play with, you can post here as well and I'll match you up with other players to make a pug team for you.

The tournament will be held [b]May 9[/b] and it will potentially be casted.

The maps will be those under consideration by 4v4 admins for use next season. I don't have the list yet, but I'll post it here in a few days when I know. The one map I do know will be included is cp_alamo, a 3CP map by Ethosaur. If you have a 4s map you'd like to nominate for inclusion, please tell me here.

There's a small [b]prize pot of 8 keys[/b] for the winner. I'm hoping to do a Bo1 round robin format for the first stage, with a Bo3 for the finals. This depends on the amount of signups and player feedback, so let me know if y'all would prefer something different.

If you have any questions you can PM me here, post them on the [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/34dw3u/4v4_new_map_tournament/]reddit discussion[/url], ask me on [url=http://steamcommunity.com/id/samhouston/]Steam[/url], post them on the UGC forum thread, or post them on the [url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/4v4NewMapTourney]Steam group[/url]. If none of those options work for you follow me on Instagram or add me on Snapchat (not really).

[b]tl;dr: DM your way through a few 4s maps, help newer players and mapmakers, and win 8 keys, probably more than any of us will ever make off of 6s.[/b]
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#2
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Sounds neat, I'll consider joining if others join

Sounds neat, I'll consider joining if others join
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#3
5 Frags +

You may want to change the date:

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?34226-2015-Highlander-Draft!

You may want to change the date:

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?34226-2015-Highlander-Draft!
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#4
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saamYou may want to change the date:

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?34226-2015-Highlander-Draft!

That and the Florida LAN, I guess everything's going on that day. Thanks for the heads up, I'll see if I can find a better time.

[quote=saam]You may want to change the date:

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?34226-2015-Highlander-Draft![/quote]

That and the Florida LAN, I guess everything's going on that day. Thanks for the heads up, I'll see if I can find a better time.
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#5
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team digital monsters
cloudmaker: http://play.esea.net/users/534556
blues: http://play.esea.net/users/765158
cookiejake: http://play.esea.net/users/657207
froot: http://play.esea.net/users/595284

team digital monsters
cloudmaker: http://play.esea.net/users/534556
blues: http://play.esea.net/users/765158
cookiejake: http://play.esea.net/users/657207
froot: http://play.esea.net/users/595284
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#6
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Finally a chance for us to utilize our 4s abilities outside of UGC.

LEGO Island 2: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=16027

Sigh
Air
Leaky
Tetro

Finally a chance for us to utilize our 4s abilities outside of UGC.

LEGO Island 2: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=16027

Sigh
Air
Leaky
Tetro
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#7
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#BringBackRobinWilliams2015

THE BILLDOZER - http://play.esea.net/users/761935
CyanSnow - http://play.esea.net/users/521687
CereaI - http://play.esea.net/users/799350
Tojo - http://play.esea.net/users/703474

#BringBackRobinWilliams2015

THE BILLDOZER - http://play.esea.net/users/761935
CyanSnow - http://play.esea.net/users/521687
CereaI - http://play.esea.net/users/799350
Tojo - http://play.esea.net/users/703474
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#8
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tetrominoFinally a chance for us to utilize our 4s abilities outside of UGC.

LEGO Island 2: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=16027

Sigh
Air
Leaky
Tetro

I see how it is

I carry you to a 1st place medal then get left on the side of the road. Disgusting.

[quote=tetromino]Finally a chance for us to utilize our 4s abilities outside of UGC.

LEGO Island 2: http://www.ugcleague.com/team_page.cfm?clan_id=16027

Sigh
Air
Leaky
Tetro[/quote]

I see how it is

I carry you to a 1st place medal then get left on the side of the road. Disgusting.
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#9
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Mr_Owl
I see how it is

I carry you to a 1st place medal then get left on the side of the road. Disgusting.

Owl I can personally guarantee that I will have something to do on that day and you'll end up handling everything and playing anyways.

[quote=Mr_Owl]

I see how it is

I carry you to a 1st place medal then get left on the side of the road. Disgusting.[/quote]
Owl I can personally guarantee that I will have something to do on that day and you'll end up handling everything and playing anyways.
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#10
7 Frags +

thai guys:
figsy http://play.esea.net/users/578234
deathy http://play.esea.net/users/501494
ggglygy http://play.esea.net/users/348753
waffleb http://play.esea.net/users/477983

thai guys:
figsy http://play.esea.net/users/578234
deathy http://play.esea.net/users/501494
ggglygy http://play.esea.net/users/348753
waffleb http://play.esea.net/users/477983
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#11
2 Frags +

TERRY'S CREW VOLUME 2:
TERRY CREWS: http://play.esea.net/users/643675
Br0nze: http://play.esea.net/users/447846
Pharaoh: http://play.esea.net/users/505177
Pascal: http://play.esea.net/users/496918

TERRY'S CREW VOLUME 2:
TERRY CREWS: http://play.esea.net/users/643675
Br0nze: http://play.esea.net/users/447846
Pharaoh: http://play.esea.net/users/505177
Pascal: http://play.esea.net/users/496918
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#12
2 Frags +

Skeps Baby:
Naciwise: http://play.esea.net/users/796000
Specs: http://play.esea.net/users/534334
Dreamer: http://play.esea.net/users/781111
Skeptic: http://play.esea.net/users/796002
Possibly..
Front Line Bait: http://play.esea.net/users/796001

Skeps Baby:
Naciwise: http://play.esea.net/users/796000
Specs: http://play.esea.net/users/534334
Dreamer: http://play.esea.net/users/781111
Skeptic: http://play.esea.net/users/796002
Possibly..
Front Line Bait: http://play.esea.net/users/796001
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#13
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All of the team sign ups here have been added to the list. I'll be closing sign ups Wednesday night, so if you're on the fence make sure to make your decision before Thursday.

Additionally, the date of the tournament will be changed to Saturday May 9. Hopefully this will work for the majority of you. I'll also be fairly lenient with ringers if that makes scheduling easier.

I'll be editing the original post with map information before the end of the night (assuming I get it before then, which I should). More concrete details will come later this week, but expect the tournament to start in the evening EST if we don't get too many more sign ups, and in the afternoon if we do. If y'all have any preferences as to exact time, please let me know.

Thanks everyone for signing up!

All of the team sign ups here have been added to the list. I'll be closing sign ups Wednesday night, so if you're on the fence make sure to make your decision before Thursday.

Additionally, the date of the tournament will be changed to [b]Saturday May 9.[/b] Hopefully this will work for the majority of you. I'll also be fairly lenient with ringers if that makes scheduling easier.

I'll be editing the original post with map information before the end of the night (assuming I get it before then, which I should). More concrete details will come later this week, but expect the tournament to start in the evening EST if we don't get too many more sign ups, and in the afternoon if we do. If y'all have any preferences as to exact time, please let me know.

Thanks everyone for signing up!
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#14
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With 7 teams and a round robin format, I've decided the tournament will be starting at 2 EST tomorrow. Hopefully that works for everyone, let me know if it doesn't and I'll see what I can do but no promises.

The map list is as follows:
Round 1: cp_alamo (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/185551)
Round 2: koth_railbridge (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=19780)
Round 3: koth_artefact_v1 (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/167670)
Round 4: koth_dropdown (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=16999)
Round 5: koth_moonshine_rc (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/118880)
Round 6: koth_rocktop_rc2 (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/183563)
Round 7: koth_smokeyridge (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/184810)

Bracket is here: http://imgur.com/3ioQ7Jl

I'll be taking the teams with the two best records for the finals. Should there be ties, I'll select based off of head to head performances. Hopefully it doesn't get anymore convoluted than that because I'm a simple man.

Finals will be a Bo3 starting at 8 or 8:30 (still haven't figured it out). The first map of the finals will be koth_switcheroo (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/117294). The second map will be chosen by the #1 seed, the third map (should it come to that) will be chosen by the #2 seed.

Standard UGC config and whitelist for everything. FFWs will cound as 2 rounds for the winner. Because we have so many games, I'm allotting 45 minutes per game. First round starts at 2, second starts at 2:45, etc. I will be fairly lenient with late starts because I realize this is a lot of 4s, but do try to get everything going on time.

I'll be making a post with every team's leader for contact information. I'm assuming the person who made each post is the leader, if not let me know. And I'm not going to make any hard and fast rules for servers. If you can sort it out yourself, that's great. If not, either do heavy boxing or rock paper scissors or ask me to flip a coin or something.

Let me know if have see any issues with the organization of this all, I am new to this so there could be something I'm not seeing.

With 7 teams and a round robin format, I've decided the tournament will be starting at 2 EST tomorrow. Hopefully that works for everyone, let me know if it doesn't and I'll see what I can do but no promises.

The map list is as follows:
Round 1: cp_alamo (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/185551)
Round 2: koth_railbridge (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=19780)
Round 3: koth_artefact_v1 (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/167670)
Round 4: koth_dropdown (http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=16999)
Round 5: koth_moonshine_rc (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/118880)
Round 6: koth_rocktop_rc2 (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/183563)
Round 7: koth_smokeyridge (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/184810)

Bracket is here: http://imgur.com/3ioQ7Jl

I'll be taking the teams with the two best records for the finals. Should there be ties, I'll select based off of head to head performances. Hopefully it doesn't get anymore convoluted than that because I'm a simple man.

Finals will be a Bo3 starting at 8 or 8:30 (still haven't figured it out). The first map of the finals will be koth_switcheroo (http://tf2.gamebanana.com/maps/117294). The second map will be chosen by the #1 seed, the third map (should it come to that) will be chosen by the #2 seed.

Standard UGC config and whitelist for everything. FFWs will cound as 2 rounds for the winner. Because we have so many games, I'm allotting 45 minutes per game. First round starts at 2, second starts at 2:45, etc. I will be fairly lenient with late starts because I realize this is a lot of 4s, but do try to get everything going on time.

I'll be making a post with every team's leader for contact information. I'm assuming the person who made each post is the leader, if not let me know. And I'm not going to make any hard and fast rules for servers. If you can sort it out yourself, that's great. If not, either do heavy boxing or rock paper scissors or ask me to flip a coin or something.

Let me know if have see any issues with the organization of this all, I am new to this so there could be something I'm not seeing.
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#15
-1 Frags +
figsythai guys:
figsy http://play.esea.net/users/578234
deathy http://play.esea.net/users/501494
ggglygy http://play.esea.net/users/348753
waffleb http://play.esea.net/users/477983

Is this still a team or what

[quote=figsy]thai guys:
figsy http://play.esea.net/users/578234
deathy http://play.esea.net/users/501494
ggglygy http://play.esea.net/users/348753
waffleb http://play.esea.net/users/477983[/quote]

Is this still a team or what
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#16
2 Frags +

Should post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.

Should post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.
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#17
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TERRYCREWSShould post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.

I got the map list this morning so I wanted to get it out as soon as possible, I'll track down the DL links when I have the time. The team on the Steam page told me they had to bow out of the tournament, so far as I'm aware the bracket should all be up to date.

Edit: DL links posted. If you get the chance to look over the maps, please leave feedback here! I'll be getting in touch with the mapmakers and UGC admins, and I'd love to have useful critiques to give them.

[quote=TERRYCREWS]Should post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.[/quote]

I got the map list this morning so I wanted to get it out as soon as possible, I'll track down the DL links when I have the time. The team on the Steam page told me they had to bow out of the tournament, so far as I'm aware the bracket should all be up to date.

Edit: DL links posted. If you get the chance to look over the maps, please leave feedback here! I'll be getting in touch with the mapmakers and UGC admins, and I'd love to have useful critiques to give them.
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#18
1 Frags +
MapleTERRYCREWSShould post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.

I got the map list this morning so I wanted to get it out as soon as possible, I'll track down the DL links when I have the time. The team on the Steam page told me they had to bow out of the tournament, so far as I'm aware the bracket should all be up to date.

Cheers!

[quote=Maple][quote=TERRYCREWS]Should post map DL links sometime soon so people don't waste time tomorrow.

You also seem to be missing a team that signed up in the steam group in your brackets.[/quote]

I got the map list this morning so I wanted to get it out as soon as possible, I'll track down the DL links when I have the time. The team on the Steam page told me they had to bow out of the tournament, so far as I'm aware the bracket should all be up to date.[/quote]

Cheers!
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#19
0 Frags +

So I can keep tracking of the tournament, please send me a message after your game with the results, including the rounds for and again.

Below I'm listing the team leader so y'all know who to contact for each of your matches. Good luck, have fun!

Team Aphex: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cwierrrrrz
Team Digital Monsters: http://steamcommunity.com/id/awwee/
Lego Island 2: http://steamcommunity.com/id/atleastidontwatchanime/
#BringBackRobinWillaims2015: http://steamcommunity.com/id/thebilldozer_/
thai guys: http://steamcommunity.com/id/figsyy/
TERRY'S CREW VOLUME 2: http://steamcommunity.com/id/cerrytrews/
Skeps Baby: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Naciwise/

So I can keep tracking of the tournament, please send me a message after your game with the results, including the rounds for and again.

Below I'm listing the team leader so y'all know who to contact for each of your matches. Good luck, have fun!

Team Aphex: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cwierrrrrz
Team Digital Monsters: http://steamcommunity.com/id/awwee/
Lego Island 2: http://steamcommunity.com/id/atleastidontwatchanime/
#BringBackRobinWillaims2015: http://steamcommunity.com/id/thebilldozer_/
thai guys: http://steamcommunity.com/id/figsyy/
TERRY'S CREW VOLUME 2: http://steamcommunity.com/id/cerrytrews/
Skeps Baby: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Naciwise/
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#20
1 Frags +

can i add a sub tomorrow by any chance? i didnt realize there would be so many maps played, and i might have to duck out for RL stuff in the evening.

can i add a sub tomorrow by any chance? i didnt realize there would be so many maps played, and i might have to duck out for RL stuff in the evening.
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#21
1 Frags +

Subs are perfectly okay, just so long as they have league experience.

Subs are perfectly okay, just so long as they have league experience.
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#22
1 Frags +

champion

champion
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#23
5 Frags +

ban beggars

ban beggars
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#24
2 Frags +
aim-ban beggars
[quote=aim-]ban beggars[/quote]
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#25
2 Frags +

plz ban the beggars
also moonshine was really chokey and favored a lot of spam - which couldnt really be avoided if you're a squishier class
dropdown was fine for the most part except how clustered the point was, which it could be expanded or somethin
otherwise was fun, ggs

plz ban the beggars
also moonshine was really chokey and favored a lot of spam - which couldnt really be avoided if you're a squishier class
dropdown was fine for the most part except how clustered the point was, which it could be expanded or somethin
otherwise was fun, ggs
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#26
1 Frags +

cp_alamo was a stupid map

cp_alamo was a stupid map
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#27
0 Frags +

Can confirm, the sightlines on alamo are stupidly long. They cover almost the entire map.

Can confirm, the sightlines on alamo are stupidly long. They cover almost the entire map.
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#28
1 Frags +

railbridge felt like a giant choke. i didnt like the train or the bridge above the point. also there a lot of things that just take up too much space. cp_alamo felt really easy to cap mid then roll into the second point with ease. its too big at mid and has a giant sight line with TOO MANY HEALTH packs. artefact was my favorite one

railbridge felt like a giant choke. i didnt like the train or the bridge above the point. also there a lot of things that just take up too much space. cp_alamo felt really easy to cap mid then roll into the second point with ease. its too big at mid and has a giant sight line with TOO MANY HEALTH packs. artefact was my favorite one
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