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ESEA S18 & TF2
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#1
ESEA
1 Frags +

We have a situation ladies and gentlemen.

We're facing a situation where, in order to keep the divisions competitive, TF2 would have to be consolidated into one Open division per game (no Invite or Intermediate) or maybe one Open division and one Intermediate division. Spreading the limited number of remaining teams across multiple divisions simply wouldn't result in a fun, competitive, environment.

This could simply be what people want, and the sky certainly isn't falling, but if you want to preserve multiple levels of competition for the game for S18, now is the time to act. We're going to be making the call Friday night (01/02), and unless we see a significant bump in the number of paid teams we're going to move forward with consolidation (one of the two, at our discretion).

The situation right now;

    Intermediate - 0 team paid
    Open - 2 teams paid

Total: 2 teams paid, in about 3 weeks of registration.

We have a situation ladies and gentlemen.

We're facing a situation where, in order to keep the divisions competitive, TF2 would have to be consolidated into one Open division per game (no Invite or Intermediate) or maybe one Open division and one Intermediate division. Spreading the limited number of remaining teams across multiple divisions simply wouldn't result in a fun, competitive, environment.

This could simply be what people want, and the sky certainly isn't falling, but if you want to preserve multiple levels of competition for the game for S18, now is the time to act. We're going to be making the call Friday night (01/02), and unless we see a significant bump in the number of paid teams we're going to move forward with consolidation (one of the two, at our discretion).

The situation right now;
[list]
Intermediate - 0 team paid
Open - 2 teams paid
[/list]

Total: 2 teams paid, in about 3 weeks of registration.
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#2
-11 Frags +

I know the reason I haven't paid is because Christmas is a vampire on my wallet

Does this happen every winter season?

I know the reason I haven't paid is because Christmas is a vampire on my wallet

Does this happen every winter season?
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#3
55 Frags +

if you plan on playing this season and you're not paid up by thursday night youre the reason tf2 is dead

if you plan on playing this season and you're not paid up by thursday night youre the reason tf2 is dead
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#4
ESEA
6 Frags +
Mr_Owlif you plan on playing this season and you're not paid up by thursday night youre the reason tf2 is dead

I don't want to get there, but ...

[quote=Mr_Owl]if you plan on playing this season and you're not paid up by thursday night youre the reason tf2 is dead[/quote]
I don't want to get there, but ...
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#5
-9 Frags +

when are the move ups happening from IM to invite?

when are the move ups happening from IM to invite?
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#6
58 Frags +

This seems kinda silly, no one is even playing right now or scrimming so it is kind of hard to figure out where there might be roster openings or what rosters even look like right now. It's the middle of the holidays and this decision is being made.. why not figure this stuff out after New Years?

This seems kinda silly, no one is even playing right now or scrimming so it is kind of hard to figure out where there might be roster openings or what rosters even look like right now. It's the middle of the holidays and this decision is being made.. why not figure this stuff out after New Years?
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#7
ESEA
7 Frags +
Mangachuwhen are the move ups happening from IM to invite?

Killing doesn't even have enough teams for the poll, so that's delayed until we decide the faith of S18.

[quote=Mangachu]when are the move ups happening from IM to invite?[/quote]

Killing doesn't even have enough teams for the poll, so that's delayed until we decide the faith of S18.
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#8
ESEA
-1 Frags +
cyzerThis seems kinda silly, no one is even playing right now or scrimming so it is kind of hard to figure out where there might be roster openings or what rosters even look like right now. It's the middle of the holidays and this decision is being made.. why not figure this stuff out after New Years?

We had about a month of downtime (if not more).

[quote=cyzer]This seems kinda silly, no one is even playing right now or scrimming so it is kind of hard to figure out where there might be roster openings or what rosters even look like right now. It's the middle of the holidays and this decision is being made.. why not figure this stuff out after New Years?[/quote]
We had about a month of downtime (if not more).
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#9
42 Frags +
ESEA-ShooterWe had about a month of downtime (if not more).

...lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...

[quote=ESEA-Shooter]We had about a month of downtime (if not more).[/quote]
...lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...
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#10
26 Frags +

http://25.media.tumblr.com/b30e951cc688293950d7db80dfd83140/tumblr_mpe1r8ntFI1r2du9bo1_500.gif

[img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/b30e951cc688293950d7db80dfd83140/tumblr_mpe1r8ntFI1r2du9bo1_500.gif[/img]
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#11
20 Frags +

Not really, typically after LAN teams take 1 week off, but after that week it was basically the holiday season. Having the LAN in December everyone pretty much knew this lull would be happening. I would just pay my fee if I knew I'd for sure have a spot on a team but that's pretty impossible to do since everyone is just waiting until after New Years.

Not really, typically after LAN teams take 1 week off, but after that week it was basically the holiday season. Having the LAN in December everyone pretty much knew this lull would be happening. I would just pay my fee if I knew I'd for sure have a spot on a team but that's pretty impossible to do since everyone is just waiting until after New Years.
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#12
ESEA
3 Frags +
ashESEA-ShooterWe had about a month of downtime (if not more)....lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...

I'm talking non-invite matches! :)

[quote=ash][quote=ESEA-Shooter]We had about a month of downtime (if not more).[/quote]
...lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...[/quote]
I'm talking non-invite matches! :)
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#13
45 Frags +

everything changes after lan

ancient chinese proverb

[i]everything changes after lan[/i]

ancient chinese proverb
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#14
5 Frags +
ESEA-ShooterashESEA-ShooterWe had about a month of downtime (if not more)....lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...I'm talking non-invite matches! :)

in tf2 at least it starts with the invite spots and then players filter down from there

especially with a cornerstone of the scene dying theres a lot of flux in invite so players who are on the borderline are holding off until they know who's gonna be in invite which is holding back like everyone down to the bottom of IM

[quote=ESEA-Shooter][quote=ash][quote=ESEA-Shooter]We had about a month of downtime (if not more).[/quote]
...lan was on the weekend of the 6th then there were 2 weeks until the holidays...[/quote]
I'm talking non-invite matches! :)[/quote]

in tf2 at least it starts with the invite spots and then players filter down from there

especially with a cornerstone of the scene dying theres a lot of flux in invite so players who are on the borderline are holding off until they know who's gonna be in invite which is holding back like everyone down to the bottom of IM
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#15
22 Frags +

i want to believe

http://i.imgur.com/EAzf8It.png

http://i.imgur.com/eXttM7S.png

i want to believe

[img]http://i.imgur.com/EAzf8It.png[/img]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/eXttM7S.png[/img]
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#16
5 Frags +

wait is this the first season of esea where registration isn't going to be extended?

wait is this the first season of esea where registration isn't going to be extended?
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#17
47 Frags +

Think about this: If you're in open, haven't paid up yet but still plan on playing, you might have to play against froyotech if you don't pay now.

Have fun.

Think about this: If you're in open, haven't paid up yet but still plan on playing, you might have to play against froyotech if you don't pay now.

Have fun.
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#18
11 Frags +
Foxi want to believe

http://i.imgur.com/EAzf8It.png

http://i.imgur.com/eXttM7S.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8

[quote=Fox]i want to believe

[img]http://i.imgur.com/EAzf8It.png[/img]

[img]http://i.imgur.com/eXttM7S.png[/img][/quote]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DSVDcw6iW8[/youtube]
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#19
Momentum Mod
12 Frags +

i guess im not allowed above open

i guess im not allowed above open
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#20
7 Frags +

shoutouts to flatline + flatline's grandma for saving esports

http://i.imgur.com/hew19dY.png

shoutouts to flatline + flatline's grandma for saving esports
[img]http://i.imgur.com/hew19dY.png[/img]
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#21
3 Frags +

shoutout to the mail system for delivering her card today so i didnt spend it on steam games

shoutout to the mail system for delivering her card today so i didnt spend it on steam games
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#22
7 Frags +

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#23
-5 Frags +

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M9-5CwYtK0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M9-5CwYtK0
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#24
-18 Frags +
MunchThink about this: If you're in open, haven't paid up yet but still plan on playing, you might have to play against froyotech if you don't pay now.

Have fun.

like froyotech would play in open

[quote=Munch]Think about this: If you're in open, haven't paid up yet but still plan on playing, you might have to play against froyotech if you don't pay now.

Have fun.[/quote] like froyotech would play in open
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#25
5 Frags +

My team is waiting on a payday before we pay up, but you can count us among the playing teams this season.

My team is waiting on a payday before we pay up, but you can count us among the playing teams this season.
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#26
43 Frags +

According to the thread about registration here:

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/21526/esea-season-18-registration/

Registration will be open until January 5th 2015 11:59pm

If you're leaving team registration open through January 5, how is it possible that you can make division decisions prior to that?

Also it's been like Christmastime holidays and it's not even New Year's and stuff, I imagine many people haven't even bothered dealing with team stuff because they're doing family holiday things. Seems like a poorly-chosen deadline in general, unless the intention is to deliberately squeeze TF2 out while avoiding taking the blame.

According to the thread about registration here:

http://teamfortress.tv/thread/21526/esea-season-18-registration/

[quote]Registration will be open until January 5th 2015 11:59pm[/quote]

If you're leaving team registration open through January 5, how is it possible that you can make division decisions prior to that?

Also it's been like Christmastime holidays and it's not even New Year's and stuff, I imagine many people haven't even bothered dealing with team stuff because they're doing family holiday things. Seems like a poorly-chosen deadline in general, unless the intention is to deliberately squeeze TF2 out while avoiding taking the blame.
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#27
24 Frags +

Blowing your load a bit early there Shooter, ey?

Blowing your load a bit early there Shooter, ey?
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#28
18 Frags +

is shooters name based off shooter mcgavin? if not i'm disappointed

http://media.giphy.com/media/phajKPhwNxHr2/giphy.gif

is shooters name based off shooter mcgavin? if not i'm disappointed
[img]http://media.giphy.com/media/phajKPhwNxHr2/giphy.gif[/img]
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#29
18 Frags +

I realize that registration does end after new years but if you just extend the registration a little bit I think the problem will be solved. Like cyzer said, it's the holidays so lots of people are spending time with their families and doing other stuff that isn't tf2 related. Most people will probably get all their team stuff together after new years.

I realize that registration does end after new years but if you just extend the registration a little bit I think the problem will be solved. Like cyzer said, it's the holidays so lots of people are spending time with their families and doing other stuff that isn't tf2 related. Most people will probably get all their team stuff together after new years.
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#30
-2 Frags +

It's kinda sad that people actually believe that the survival of American TF2 apparently depends on paying (read: donating) money to a crooked company like ESEA who seemingly do everything in their power to fuck up their customers. In return we get three LANs a year with only four teams, which are mostly just boring turtlefests where nothing interesting happens for an hour per map, while the same people win the prizes season after season. Lol, TF2 won't die just because ESEA stops supporting it because in the end only a few people are truly in it for the money.

It's kinda sad that people actually believe that the survival of American TF2 apparently depends on paying (read: donating) money to a crooked company like ESEA who seemingly do everything in their power to fuck up their customers. In return we get three LANs a year with only four teams, which are mostly just boring turtlefests where nothing interesting happens for an hour per map, while the same people win the prizes season after season. Lol, TF2 won't die just because ESEA stops supporting it because in the end only a few people are truly in it for the money.
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