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My Pc has completely shit itself
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#1
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Guess I'll start from where the issues began.

Pc was running completely fine since June up until 3 days ago when I tried plugging in a 80gb Intel SSD. Didn't configure it or touch it in any way. During scrims that night, my monitor suddenly went black, but the power to it and my pc remained on. Was forced to restart.

Next day, I came home from class and my pc refused to turn on. The power light kept blinking once every second. Couldn't restart or hold the button down to shutdown, so I opened it up and took the ssd out. Pc started up fine after that.

From then on, I haven't been able to keep the thing running for more than 30 minutes at a time in game, maybe an hour or two out of game. Either the entire machine will restart, or the monitor will just blackout as mentioned earlier, or the thing won't to turn on similar to the power light issue.

Updated all my drivers, checked for viruses, that whole thing.

Temps measure my cpu at 40 while idling, and 60-70 while in game. But not sure why the Pc would shutdown out of game if overheating was the issue.

Specs:
i5 4570
8g ram
gtx 770
600w psu

What's going on????

Guess I'll start from where the issues began.

Pc was running completely fine since June up until 3 days ago when I tried plugging in a 80gb Intel SSD. Didn't configure it or touch it in any way. During scrims that night, my monitor suddenly went black, but the power to it and my pc remained on. Was forced to restart.

Next day, I came home from class and my pc refused to turn on. The power light kept blinking once every second. Couldn't restart or hold the button down to shutdown, so I opened it up and took the ssd out. Pc started up fine after that.

From then on, I haven't been able to keep the thing running for more than 30 minutes at a time in game, maybe an hour or two out of game. Either the entire machine will restart, or the monitor will just blackout as mentioned earlier, or the thing won't to turn on similar to the power light issue.

Updated all my drivers, checked for viruses, that whole thing.

Temps measure my cpu at 40 while idling, and 60-70 while in game. But not sure why the Pc would shutdown out of game if overheating was the issue.

Specs:
i5 4570
8g ram
gtx 770
600w psu

What's going on????
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#2
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your power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other parts

your power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other parts
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#3
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Yeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.

Yeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.
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#4
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The ssd isn't in my rig any more though, that's the thing.

Computer just restarted again, and just went to a really weird cyan screen with nothing going on.

Restarted and now I'm at some automatic diagnosing windows sequence. Is there in doing a fresh windows install or is this an internal issue?

http://i.imgur.com/9PADC4B.jpg

The ssd isn't in my rig any more though, that's the thing.

Computer just restarted again, and just went to a really weird cyan screen with nothing going on.

Restarted and now I'm at some automatic diagnosing windows sequence. Is there in doing a fresh windows install or is this an internal issue?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/9PADC4B.jpg[/img]
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#5
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If you seriously think 600 Watt isn't enough for that, just wow lol

If you seriously think 600 Watt isn't enough for that, just wow lol
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#6
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Try updating your bios. Also take your ram out and put it back in.
Edit: To update your bios, find your motherboard on google, it's drivers, then BIOS drivers - put the .ROM file that you'll get to update your bios for your motherboard on a USB stick and navigate to it in your BIOS' update tool.
If that doesn't work, try formatting the USB to FAT32 by rightclicking it under 'My Computer' in windows explorer's left-side menu and selecting 'format' and putting the .ROM back on

Try updating your bios. Also take your ram out and put it back in.
Edit: To update your bios, find your motherboard on google, it's drivers, then BIOS drivers - put the .ROM file that you'll get to update your bios for your motherboard on a USB stick and navigate to it in your BIOS' update tool.
If that doesn't work, try formatting the USB to FAT32 by rightclicking it under 'My Computer' in windows explorer's left-side menu and selecting 'format' and putting the .ROM back on
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#7
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tehh4ck3ryour power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other partsTimestampYeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.

http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine

http://i.imgur.com/Ljunmgq.png

you people...

OP: You mentioned your CPU temps. What are your GPU temps like?

[quote=tehh4ck3r]your power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other parts[/quote]

[quote=Timestamp]Yeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.[/quote]

[url]http://extreme.outervision.com/PSUEngine[/url]

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/Ljunmgq.png[/IMG]

you people...

OP: You mentioned your CPU temps. What are your GPU temps like?
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#8
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Gpu temps were surprisingly low? Maybe 35 idling and 45 in game, so not sure if that's the issue.

I think I've reached the terminal stage where I can't even load into windows now. Every time I try booting up, when I load my Windows account, the monitor claims that the signal is lost, shuts off, while my desktop retains power.

Please save my gaming career

Gpu temps were surprisingly low? Maybe 35 idling and 45 in game, so not sure if that's the issue.

I think I've reached the terminal stage where I can't even load into windows now. Every time I try booting up, when I load my Windows account, the monitor claims that the signal is lost, shuts off, while my desktop retains power.

Please save my gaming career
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#9
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try starting windows in safe mode

try starting windows in safe mode
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#10
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TimestampYeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.

:o
Do you still have Windows cd?

[quote=Timestamp]Yeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.[/quote]
:o
Do you still have Windows cd?
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#11
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Don't have a windows CD anymore. Tried starting it up in safe mode and it actually booted into my desktop. 15 minutes later the monitor lost signal and this time I went to like a beige/gray screen.

WTF?

Every time I try to boot up now, the windows repair options pop up, and I can either do some advanced options, or continue onto a normal boot, in which case the monitor loses signal from my desktop and turns off.

Don't have a windows CD anymore. Tried starting it up in safe mode and it actually booted into my desktop. 15 minutes later the monitor lost signal and this time I went to like a beige/gray screen.

WTF?

Every time I try to boot up now, the windows repair options pop up, and I can either do some advanced options, or continue onto a normal boot, in which case the monitor loses signal from my desktop and turns off.
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#12
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ur fucked

ur fucked
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#13
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That's one interesting issue.. Maybe try to revert your drivers to use an older version?

That's one interesting issue.. Maybe try to revert your drivers to use an older version?
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#14
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http://i.imgur.com/N7vuus0.jpg?1

Just flashing me different colors like a laffy taffy flavor display

It's now black as I'm typing this

Would it be worth it to wipe everything on here and do a fresh install of Windows or is the problem something with my hardware?

[img]http://i.imgur.com/N7vuus0.jpg?1[/img]

Just flashing me different colors like a laffy taffy flavor display

It's now black as I'm typing this

Would it be worth it to wipe everything on here and do a fresh install of Windows or is the problem something with my hardware?
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#15
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Had same problem, better prepare for new Windows (or maybe Linux?) installation, that's the only solution I found. Or it's hardware problem, not sure.

Had same problem, better prepare for new Windows (or maybe Linux?) installation, that's the only solution I found. Or it's hardware problem, not sure.
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#16
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When putting the SSD in, are you sure you avoided static cling? That can mess with your RAM and cause these issues.

When putting the SSD in, are you sure you avoided static cling? That can mess with your RAM and cause these issues.
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frandwart!

If you can't boot into Windows, I suggest making a bootable Ubuntu flash drive and seeing if that works. Regardless, I think you're facing a hardware issue. Either your RAM or motherboard.

Do you know of any power surges/electrical fluctuations in your area?

frandwart!

If you can't boot into Windows, I suggest making a bootable Ubuntu flash drive and seeing if that works. Regardless, I think you're facing a hardware issue. Either your RAM or motherboard.

Do you know of any power surges/electrical fluctuations in your area?
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#18
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Come to think of it I did have a blackout earlier last week. Didn't think it affected anything though because the pc worked fine right afterwards.

Pretty sure the issue is something hardware related; I did a fresh install of Windows, and while the computer was able to stay on for roughly 2 hours, it still shut off.

Running memtest 86 now to see if there's something wrong with my RAM, if anyone else has more suggestions that'd be amazing.

Come to think of it I did have a blackout earlier last week. Didn't think it affected anything though because the pc worked fine right afterwards.

Pretty sure the issue is something hardware related; I did a fresh install of Windows, and while the computer was able to stay on for roughly 2 hours, it still shut off.

Running memtest 86 now to see if there's something wrong with my RAM, if anyone else has more suggestions that'd be amazing.
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#19
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If a blackout happened, good chance it might have damaged something. I've had a PSU that started having problems after a blackout when it was on. Which reminds me, I should probably invest in an UPS.

If a blackout happened, good chance it might have damaged something. I've had a PSU that started having problems after a blackout when it was on. Which reminds me, I should probably invest in an UPS.
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#20
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If your just getting random colours flashing then im guessing your GPU is fried or at least damaged in some way, luckly this is easy to test so just unplug it from your mobo and see if your pc boots without it to find out.

If your just getting random colours flashing then im guessing your GPU is fried or at least damaged in some way, luckly this is easy to test so just unplug it from your mobo and see if your pc boots without it to find out.
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#21
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You may wanna gte your hands on a windows CD one way or another. Or you could try a linux bootable CD.

You may wanna gte your hands on a windows CD one way or another. Or you could try a linux bootable CD.
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Like said, if a blackout happened and your psu protection system wasn't able to do something, you might have fried your gpu, for example. As said, make a Ubuntu Live USB or CD just to rule out any hardware damage :)

Like said, if a blackout happened and your psu protection system wasn't able to do something, you might have fried your gpu, for example. As said, make a Ubuntu Live USB or CD just to rule out any hardware damage :)
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#23
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TimestampYeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.
tehh4ck3ryour power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other parts

you 2 must be trolling

Hergan5Had same problem, better prepare for new Windows (or maybe Linux?) installation, that's the only solution I found. Or it's hardware problem, not sure.

Linux :facepalm:

MarleyIf your just getting random colours flashing then im guessing your GPU is fried or at least damaged in some way, luckly this is easy to test so just unplug it from your mobo and see if your pc boots without it to find out.

might be this, anyway be more specific, psu, motherboard brand and model

[quote=Timestamp]Yeah 600W = Small as heck
Edit: Though Harddrives usually don't take much wattage - try just 700W.[/quote]
[quote=tehh4ck3r]your power supply might not have enough wattage to handle the SSD in addition to all the other parts[/quote]

you 2 must be trolling

[quote=Hergan5]Had same problem, better prepare for new Windows (or maybe Linux?) installation, that's the only solution I found. Or it's hardware problem, not sure.[/quote]

Linux :facepalm:

[quote=Marley]If your just getting random colours flashing then im guessing your GPU is fried or at least damaged in some way, luckly this is easy to test so just unplug it from your mobo and see if your pc boots without it to find out.[/quote]

might be this, anyway be more specific, psu, motherboard brand and model
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#24
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not sure if you double checked but if one if the coolers to other parts might be disconnected from the mobo.

not sure if you double checked but if one if the coolers to other parts might be disconnected from the mobo.
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#25
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Try using your onboard GPU instead and see what happens.

Try using your onboard GPU instead and see what happens.
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#26
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DrewTry using your onboard GPU instead and see what happens.

Did this as recommended by another friend, had chrome/tf2 idling for about 10 minutes when I lost signal, so I'm pretty sure it's not the gpu (thankfully).

The thing crashed during memtest with only one stick of Ram after 4 passes and no errors, so I'm not banking on it being the Ram either.

Checked all my plugs and connections, dusted everything off, everything seems to be in order as far as I can tell.

psu is a Corsair CX600m 12v, and the mobo is an Asrock b85 pro4

I'm beginning to believe it may be an overheating issue because when I would frequently try and reboot, I couldn't even get to my Windows login without crashing, but when I would open my desktop up and give it some time to cool off in between whatever I was doing, I could login and access some features for a while before shutting off again. How plausible does this sound?

The only thing that doesn't agree with this is what the whole thing was where I put my computer to asleep, and the next day, it refused to turn on with the blinking power light.

Thanks for all the help so far, btw.

[quote=Drew]Try using your onboard GPU instead and see what happens.[/quote]
Did this as recommended by another friend, had chrome/tf2 idling for about 10 minutes when I lost signal, so I'm pretty sure it's not the gpu (thankfully).

The thing crashed during memtest with only one stick of Ram after 4 passes and no errors, so I'm not banking on it being the Ram either.

Checked all my plugs and connections, dusted everything off, everything seems to be in order as far as I can tell.

psu is a Corsair CX600m 12v, and the mobo is an Asrock b85 pro4

I'm beginning to believe it may be an overheating issue because when I would frequently try and reboot, I couldn't even get to my Windows login without crashing, but when I would open my desktop up and give it some time to cool off in between whatever I was doing, I could login and access some features for a while before shutting off again. How plausible does this sound?

The only thing that doesn't agree with this is what the whole thing was where I put my computer to asleep, and the next day, it refused to turn on with the blinking power light.

Thanks for all the help so far, btw.
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edit

edit
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farnsworth

What OS are you using sry? it's pretty rare to see a pc crashing for overheating issue being under dos, even if you remove heatsinks and everything it's hard to make it crash, anyway it might be a PSU issue, but not wattage related, more likely something failing (maybe not really stable 12/5v rails, that could cause the instant shutdown and those weird colors), corsair is known for such issues, they have some really good PSUs but often some of the lower quality series have these problems.

if you can try another PSU that would tell us what problem really is, if it does confirm my theory it's bad coz a not stable power supplying to VGA, CPU, etc, but mainly VGA, could f**k up those components, causing a more expensive damage.

another theory could be RAMs run again that memtest, let's see what happens, if it crashes again try and detect the ram stick and remove it, and try that memtest again.

[quote=farnsworth][/quote]

What OS are you using sry? it's pretty rare to see a pc crashing for overheating issue being under dos, even if you remove heatsinks and everything it's hard to make it crash, anyway it might be a PSU issue, but not wattage related, more likely something failing (maybe not really stable 12/5v rails, that could cause the instant shutdown and those weird colors), corsair is known for such issues, they have some really good PSUs but often some of the lower quality series have these problems.

if you can try another PSU that would tell us what problem really is, if it does confirm my theory it's bad coz a not stable power supplying to VGA, CPU, etc, but mainly VGA, could f**k up those components, causing a more expensive damage.

another theory could be RAMs run again that memtest, let's see what happens, if it crashes again try and detect the ram stick and remove it, and try that memtest again.
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farnsworth
I'm beginning to believe it may be an overheating issue because when I would frequently try and reboot, I couldn't even get to my Windows login without crashing, but when I would open my desktop up and give it some time to cool off in between whatever I was doing, I could login and access some features for a while before shutting off again. How plausible does this sound?

I had the same issue,later it turned out that I somehow broke off a plastic holding the cpu cooler causing the cpu to overheat, so you might want to check it out. maybe you should check in the bios what does it do when the temps are too hot (restart or does nothing) and dont use the computer often to avoid further damage.

[quote=farnsworth]

I'm beginning to believe it may be an overheating issue because when I would frequently try and reboot, I couldn't even get to my Windows login without crashing, but when I would open my desktop up and give it some time to cool off in between whatever I was doing, I could login and access some features for a while before shutting off again. How plausible does this sound?
[/quote]

I had the same issue,later it turned out that I somehow broke off a plastic holding the cpu cooler causing the cpu to overheat, so you might want to check it out. maybe you should check in the bios what does it do when the temps are too hot (restart or does nothing) and dont use the computer often to avoid further damage.
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#30
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I'm running Windows 8.1.

If it is the PSU, is there any way to test if it's faulty without obtaining another one? I don't have power supplies lying around haha.

I'll explore around some more inside my desktop, looking around my cpu to see if anything became unlatched or broken.

I'm running Windows 8.1.

If it is the PSU, is there any way to test if it's faulty without obtaining another one? I don't have power supplies lying around haha.

I'll explore around some more inside my desktop, looking around my cpu to see if anything became unlatched or broken.
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