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Rules Don't Matter? [The UGC Experience]
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#91
-7 Frags +

when people see me dunk
all they see is dollar signs

when people see me dunk
all they see is dollar signs
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#92
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Let me explain some of the fine rules UGC has listed.

Basically there's a rule saying map exploits or texture flaws are bannable, meaning the match results can be overturned or replayed (i.e. putting sticky traps inside the rocks on upward).

Basically if you are bullied in a match, such as name calling, and the players that call you names go further by spawn-camping you and taunting, you can file a bully report and have the match results overturned or something like that.

The admin discretion literally says "Hey these rules are just guidelines for us to decide what we want."

UGC needs to rewrite their rules so that the admin can enforce them, not interpret them.

On the note of your situation, it should be fair for all players despite what UGC rules state about high ping for one player. Being accommodating is usually what I've seen in all competitive 6s formats in CEVO and ESEA, however they weren't grand finals so I can understand.

Again, UGC should rewrite their rules.

Let me explain some of the fine rules UGC has listed.

Basically there's a rule saying map exploits or texture flaws are bannable, meaning the match results can be overturned or replayed (i.e. putting sticky traps inside the rocks on upward).

Basically if you are bullied in a match, such as name calling, and the players that call you names go further by spawn-camping you and taunting, you can file a bully report and have the match results overturned or something like that.

The admin discretion literally says "Hey these rules are just guidelines for us to decide what we want."

UGC needs to rewrite their rules so that the admin can enforce them, not interpret them.


On the note of your situation, it should be fair for all players despite what UGC rules state about high ping for one player. Being accommodating is usually what I've seen in all competitive 6s formats in CEVO and ESEA, however they weren't grand finals so I can understand.

Again, UGC should rewrite their rules.
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#93
-3 Frags +
highfiveI CAME IN 3RD PLACE FOR FOURS
WATCH OUT

Invite here he comes

[quote=highfive]I CAME IN 3RD PLACE FOR FOURS
WATCH OUT[/quote]

Invite here he comes
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#94
-8 Frags +

how about you ugc shitties play esea so someone actually gives a fuck?

guys these admins in this f2p league didn't behave exactly how i want them to look at this! fucking pussies.

how about you ugc shitties play esea so someone actually gives a fuck?

guys these admins in this f2p league didn't behave exactly how i want them to look at this! fucking pussies.
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#95
-4 Frags +
marmadukeGRYLLShow about you ugc shitties play esea so someone actually gives a fuck?

guys these admins in this f2p league didn't behave exactly how i want them to look at this! fucking pussies.

and anyone who affiliates with ugc takes a L

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]how about you ugc shitties play esea so someone actually gives a fuck?

guys these admins in this f2p league didn't behave exactly how i want them to look at this! fucking pussies.[/quote]
and anyone who affiliates with ugc takes a L
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#96
-6 Frags +

This is being salty that you couldn't play a team 5 v 6.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eO7vKY8zpu0/T1ylRHlkL6I/AAAAAAAAB6Q/OTdXfwntOcY/s1600/too%2Bsalty.jpg

This is being salty that you couldn't play a team 5 v 6.


[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eO7vKY8zpu0/T1ylRHlkL6I/AAAAAAAAB6Q/OTdXfwntOcY/s1600/too%2Bsalty.jpg[/img]
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#97
7 Frags +

Please just let this die.

Please just let this die.
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#98
-2 Frags +

Here you go OP.

http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c6d1d53ef0147e0bfbec1970b-300wi

Here you go OP.
[img]http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c6d1d53ef0147e0bfbec1970b-300wi[/img]
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#99
0 Frags +

Reminds me of how some ESEA server routings are kind of shit. We kinda complain but in the end we just deal with it.

Reminds me of how some ESEA server routings are kind of shit. We kinda complain but in the end we just deal with it.
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#100
0 Frags +
LarryyyThis is being salty that you couldn't play a team 5 v 6.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eO7vKY8zpu0/T1ylRHlkL6I/AAAAAAAAB6Q/OTdXfwntOcY/s1600/too%2Bsalty.jpg
tstmHere you go OP.
http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c6d1d53ef0147e0bfbec1970b-300wi

let the thread die already

[quote=Larryyy]This is being salty that you couldn't play a team 5 v 6.


[img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-eO7vKY8zpu0/T1ylRHlkL6I/AAAAAAAAB6Q/OTdXfwntOcY/s1600/too%2Bsalty.jpg[/img][/quote]

[quote=tstm]Here you go OP.
[img]http://rarebirdfinds.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c6d1d53ef0147e0bfbec1970b-300wi[/img][/quote]

let the thread die already
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#101
9 Frags +

A team with good sportsmanship would have been fine with another server in this instance, so long as it didn't hurt their pings in turn. Sometimes you need to rely on the letter of the law to have a good match, and other times you have to overlook the minor violations to have a good match.

Did UGC make the right call? Yes. It's always best to have a fair game, especially in playoffs.

Did they make the "correct" call? Not exactly. Their interpretation rule leave a lot to be desired - "We at UGC reserve the right reserve the right to interpret all the rules set forth on this page as we see fit in this situation, independent of each other." Given how very specific their ping rule is, you can't really interpret it a different way; you can only choose to uphold or completely disregard it, which is what the admins chose to do.

In summation: The Elite Four (the team upset about the servers) needs to let this go. Being upset that you weren't permitted to take advantage of a connection issue makes you look both petty and unsporting. Having said that, I do think you're right in that UGC needs to make some changes to their rules. After all, what is the point of having detailed rule specifications if situations where they are overridden continue to arise? Either certain rules need adjusting/more flexibility and/or the interpretation rule needs to be include the provision that admins can overrule the written rules at their discretion. Given the fact the admins go over the rules most every season, my hope is that we'll see improvements in these areas before the next seasons start.

A team with good sportsmanship would have been fine with another server in this instance, so long as it didn't hurt their pings in turn. Sometimes you need to rely on the letter of the law to have a good match, and other times you have to overlook the minor violations to have a good match.

Did UGC make the right call? Yes. It's always best to have a fair game, [i]especially[/i] in playoffs.

Did they make the "correct" call? Not exactly. Their interpretation rule leave a lot to be desired - "We at UGC reserve the right reserve the right to interpret all the rules set forth on this page as we see fit in this situation, independent of each other." Given how very specific their ping rule is, you can't really interpret it a different way; you can only choose to uphold or completely disregard it, which is what the admins chose to do.

In summation: The Elite Four (the team upset about the servers) needs to let this go. Being upset that you weren't permitted to take advantage of a connection issue makes you look both petty and unsporting. Having said that, I do think you're right in that UGC needs to make some changes to their rules. After all, what is the point of having detailed rule specifications if situations where they are overridden continue to arise? Either certain rules need adjusting/more flexibility and/or the interpretation rule needs to be include the provision that admins can overrule the written rules at their discretion. Given the fact the admins go over the rules most every season, my hope is that we'll see improvements in these areas before the next seasons start.
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