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Hi all,
I'm on a considerably low level team but I would say I know a considerable amount about the game and how it works. It has been a reoccurring theme for me to under-preform as demo, and I will get hung up on stats and on the team's numerous disheartening losses. I try to convince myself that it is my end that is at fault but a lot of times find myself blaming others in frustration. Demo being an extremely team-reliant class, there is little I can do when I find myself constantly dying, not knowing where the team is, and not receiving heals.

I realize having an ego and scapegoating my team is a no-no, so I try to keep it calm and work on my game as much as possible. However, I am simply out of ideas at this point. The members of the team itself are a great group of people, and I'd hate to leave. When something goes right, which is quite rare, it is a major accomplishment and the everyone is joyous. I enjoy playing with them, but a majority of the time, I am just not enjoying tf2, and at times, I can even find myself sad. I would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem. Any advice to either deal with or avoid the stress that I get from this video game is very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Hi all,
I'm on a considerably low level team but I would say I know a considerable amount about the game and how it works. It has been a reoccurring theme for me to under-preform as demo, and I will get hung up on stats and on the team's numerous disheartening losses. I try to convince myself that it is my end that is at fault but a lot of times find myself blaming others in frustration. Demo being an extremely team-reliant class, there is little I can do when I find myself constantly dying, not knowing where the team is, and not receiving heals.

I realize having an ego and scapegoating my team is a no-no, so I try to keep it calm and work on my game as much as possible. However, I am simply out of ideas at this point. The members of the team itself are a great group of people, and I'd hate to leave. When something goes right, which is quite rare, it is a major accomplishment and the everyone is joyous. I enjoy playing with them, but a majority of the time, [b]I am just not enjoying tf2[/b], and at times, I can even find myself sad. I would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem. Any advice to either deal with or avoid the stress that I get from this video game is very much appreciated.

Thank you.
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#2
24 Frags +

stop playing

stop playing
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#3
42 Frags +
I would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem.

Start focusing on buffing your own K:D, and your own damage statline. Bait your team to get frags / damage. The way "low level" tf2 works is that teams don't all stay together and get better together (maybe 3 people will, but not all 6 players), so what you need to do at this point is focus on making yourself as good as possible so a higher level team will pick you up next season. If you can't do this (even while playing demo which is a class valve considers broken lol) then ur gonna be s.o.l chief.

cheers

[quote]I would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem.[/quote]

Start focusing on buffing your own K:D, and your own damage statline. Bait your team to get frags / damage. The way "low level" tf2 works is that teams don't all stay together and get better together (maybe 3 people will, but not all 6 players), so what you need to do at this point is focus on making yourself as good as possible so a higher level team will pick you up next season. If you can't do this (even while playing demo which is a class valve considers broken lol) then ur gonna be s.o.l chief.

cheers
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#4
17 Frags +

if you really really wanna get good demo review invite demos and then demo review yourself
or just quit

if you really really wanna get good demo review invite demos and then demo review yourself
or just quit
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#5
18 Frags +
Super-stop playing

for real though

it sounds like you are super burned out and it sucks that happened to you before you got past wood league but trust me it is not worth continuing to sink your time and energy into a video game if you are no longer having fun with it

take a break for a month and then try playing again if you still want to

[quote=Super-]stop playing[/quote]

for real though

it sounds like you are super burned out and it sucks that happened to you before you got past wood league but trust me it is not worth continuing to sink your time and energy into a video game if you are no longer having fun with it

take a break for a month and then try playing again if you still want to
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#6
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Super-stop playingrosI would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem.Ggglygy The way "low level" tf2 works is that teams don't all stay together and get better together (maybe 3 people will, but not all 6 players), so what you need to do at this point is focus on making yourself as good as possible so a higher level team will pick you up next season.cheers

At first I thought you were kidding but this is awesome advice. I'll definitely try this before I resort to stop playing the game altogether.
Thanks DJ Big Gig

ukm it sounds like you are super burned out and it sucks that happened to you before you got past wood league but trust me it is not worth continuing to sink your time and energy into a video game if you are no longer having fun with it
take a break for a month and then try playing again if you still want to

I'm gonna try gggly's advice first, then most likely drop out for a while if that doesn't work out.
I really appreciate the advice man, thanks.

alec_if you really really wanna get good demo review invite demos and then demo review yourself
or just quit

I've watched a lot of Bdonski and I realized that to perform like an invite demoman also requires the team you're playing with to also be an invite level. So that didn't work out for me that much.
Thanks for the suggestion; it's very much appreciated.

[quote=Super-]stop playing[/quote]

[quote=ros]I would love to stay on the team and find a way to deal with the problem.[/quote]





[quote=Ggglygy] The way "low level" tf2 works is that teams don't all stay together and get better together (maybe 3 people will, but not all 6 players), so what you need to do at this point is focus on making yourself as good as possible so a higher level team will pick you up next season.cheers [/quote]

At first I thought you were kidding but this is awesome advice. I'll definitely try this before I resort to stop playing the game altogether.
Thanks DJ Big Gig

[quote=ukm] it sounds like you are super burned out and it sucks that happened to you before you got past wood league but trust me it is not worth continuing to sink your time and energy into a video game if you are no longer having fun with it
take a break for a month and then try playing again if you still want to[/quote]

I'm gonna try gggly's advice first, then most likely drop out for a while if that doesn't work out.
I really appreciate the advice man, thanks.

[quote=alec_]if you really really wanna get good demo review invite demos and then demo review yourself
or just quit[/quote]

I've watched a lot of Bdonski and I realized that to perform like an invite demoman also requires the team you're playing with to also be an invite level. So that didn't work out for me that much.
Thanks for the suggestion; it's very much appreciated.
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#7
5 Frags +

Have you tried jerking off? "When in doubt, rub one out".

Have you tried jerking off? "When in doubt, rub one out".
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#8
6 Frags +

I'd say just take a break like everybody is saying. I've had this problem before because I was always on teams that didn't end well and ended up me not enjoying the game and letting my toxic attitude come out and flat out just telling my teammates that I don't care about this game and I don't enjoy it. Therefore, I've stopped playing TF2 since I'm on a csgo team and I quite enjoy playing it. Just take a break and come back. If you don't enjoy it still. Well, just go off and play a different game or focus on life. GL&HF mate.

I'd say just take a break like everybody is saying. I've had this problem before because I was always on teams that didn't end well and ended up me not enjoying the game and letting my toxic attitude come out and flat out just telling my teammates that I don't care about this game and I don't enjoy it. Therefore, I've stopped playing TF2 since I'm on a csgo team and I quite enjoy playing it. Just take a break and come back. If you don't enjoy it still. Well, just go off and play a different game or focus on life. GL&HF mate.
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#9
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rosI've watched a lot of Bdonski and I realized that to perform like an invite demoman also requires the team you're playing with to also be an invite level. So that didn't work out for me that much.
Thanks for the suggestion; it's very much appreciated.

If you're playing at a really low level like you said, I don't think its a good idea to be watching top invite demos since they'll be doing a lot of stuff that requires a good base and experience. At this point I'd say it's more important to get your basics right and then look to build from there.

[quote=ros]I've watched a lot of Bdonski and I realized that to perform like an invite demoman also requires the team you're playing with to also be an invite level. So that didn't work out for me that much.
Thanks for the suggestion; it's very much appreciated.[/quote]

If you're playing at a really low level like you said, I don't think its a good idea to be watching top invite demos since they'll be doing a lot of stuff that requires a good base and experience. At this point I'd say it's more important to get your basics right and then look to build from there.
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#10
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I've been in this situation before, on a team with nice people who don't really care for improving and finding myself frustrated with the situation but not knowing what I could/should do. Like you, I began to feel extremely burnt out and disheartened, knowing I could be having so much more fun on a better team, not because I wanted to win but I wanted to improve.

You won't improve if you don't surround yourself with people who aren't necessarily better than yourself, just willing to better themselves.

I left my UGC Donut team for a team of similarly skilled players, only these guys were serious about strats and practice and all that. I'm not quite Prem yet, but I have a newfound enjoyment for the game and look forward to scrims and matches.

TL;DR, leave your team if you aren't happy with them.

I've been in this situation before, on a team with nice people who don't really care for improving and finding myself frustrated with the situation but not knowing what I could/should do. Like you, I began to feel extremely burnt out and disheartened, knowing I could be having so much more fun on a better team, not because I wanted to win but I wanted to [i]improve.[/i]

You won't improve if you don't surround yourself with people who aren't necessarily better than yourself, just willing to better themselves.

I left my UGC Donut team for a team of similarly skilled players, only these guys were serious about strats and practice and all that. I'm not quite Prem yet, but I have a newfound enjoyment for the game and look forward to scrims and matches.

TL;DR, leave your team if you aren't happy with them.
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#11
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Buckleysnip

your UGC Donut team still shat on my team. :<

and yes, I would agree with leaving your team.

[quote=Buckley]snip[/quote]

your UGC Donut team still shat on my team. :<

and yes, I would agree with leaving your team.
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#12
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The team I was on that scrimmed your team was the better team that I left my Donut team for.

The team I was on that scrimmed your team was the better team that I left my Donut team for.
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#13
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I've been there. All I can say is that situations like these are valuable learning experiences. You won't be able to please everyone, so you have to gather a lot of information and make the 'best' decision. That's really hard!

I'd have a conversation with the leader/s of your team and explain how you feel. Ask for their opinion on what you should do. I only see three scenarios:
-You have an attitude problem (unlikely)
-Your teammates don't have the same goals as you do (very likely)
-You don't like the game (unlikely)

Be honest and vent your frustrations, but make it clear that you're staying because you like the players on the team, and that in the end you want what's best for everyone. That very likely is you leaving the team.

It's likely that you want to get better at a different pace than your teammates; in which case gggly's advice is pretty good. Focusing on individual skill will make it easier for you to be picked up by a better team next season.

In the interim, start marketing yourself as a ringer/backup for other teams. Nothing beats getting playtime. If you don't enjoy playing with these other teams, then taking a break / quitting is probably the right decision.

I've been there. All I can say is that situations like these are valuable learning experiences. You won't be able to please everyone, so you have to gather a lot of information and make the 'best' decision. That's really hard!

I'd have a conversation with the leader/s of your team and explain how you feel. Ask for their opinion on what you should do. I only see three scenarios:
-You have an attitude problem (unlikely)
-Your teammates don't have the same goals as you do (very likely)
-You don't like the game (unlikely)

Be honest and vent your frustrations, but make it clear that you're staying because you like the players on the team, and that in the end you want what's best for everyone. That very likely is you leaving the team.

It's likely that you want to get better at a different pace than your teammates; in which case gggly's advice is pretty good. Focusing on individual skill will make it easier for you to be picked up by a better team next season.

In the interim, start marketing yourself as a ringer/backup for other teams. Nothing beats getting playtime. If you don't enjoy playing with these other teams, then taking a break / quitting is probably the right decision.
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#14
2 Frags +

Change your gaming experience - IF you don't enjoy it you need to figure out why. If you know why you don't enjoy it you need to figure out how to change it and if you know how to change it WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU CHANGING IT ALREADY? STOP WHINING AND DEAL WITH IT. There is no easy way to change something but no point in spending time on something you find frustrating, may as well make the changes needed to enjoy the game or if not possible, enjoy life.

Change your gaming experience - IF you don't enjoy it you need to figure out why. If you know why you don't enjoy it you need to figure out how to change it and if you know how to change it WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU CHANGING IT ALREADY? STOP WHINING AND DEAL WITH IT. There is no easy way to change something but no point in spending time on something you find frustrating, may as well make the changes needed to enjoy the game or if not possible, enjoy life.
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#15
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Hildrethif you know how to change it WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU CHANGING IT ALREADY? STOP WHINING AND DEAL WITH IT.

truer words have never been spoken

[quote=Hildreth]if you know how to change it WHY THE FUCK AREN'T YOU CHANGING IT ALREADY? STOP WHINING AND DEAL WITH IT.[/quote]

truer words have never been spoken
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