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The International
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#121
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LGD vs DK game 1 was the best match of TI4

LGD vs DK game 1 was the best match of TI4
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#122
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SingSing meepo best part of TI4

SingSing meepo best part of TI4
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#123
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That was the worst final. First international I have watched since I started playing dota and it was so anticlimatic... Can't connect with any of the players on Newbee, even after winning they were all so emotionless...

At least rtz antics can be pretty entertaining. These guys can't even show some emotion after winning 5M.

That was the worst final. First international I have watched since I started playing dota and it was so anticlimatic... Can't connect with any of the players on Newbee, even after winning they were all so emotionless...

At least rtz antics can be pretty entertaining. These guys can't even show some emotion after winning 5M.
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#124
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KanecoThat was the worst final. First international I have watched since I started playing dota and it was so anticlimatic... Can't connect with any of the players on Newbee, even after winning they were all so emotionless...

At least rtz antics can be pretty entertaining. These guys can't even show some emotion after winning 5M.

please this is just china, did you not see how they flipped the fuck out in the booths after they won? china has a tendency to value public image over a lot of stuff. so what if they don't look excited? guarantee you that they're cheering their asses off inside

[quote=Kaneco]That was the worst final. First international I have watched since I started playing dota and it was so anticlimatic... Can't connect with any of the players on Newbee, even after winning they were all so emotionless...

At least rtz antics can be pretty entertaining. These guys can't even show some emotion after winning 5M.[/quote]
please this is just china, did you not see how they flipped the fuck out in the booths after they won? china has a tendency to value public image over a lot of stuff. so what if they don't look excited? guarantee you that they're cheering their asses off inside
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#125
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Just an interesting find:

http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg

The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.

Just an interesting find:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg[/img]
The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.
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#126
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MagikarpJust an interesting find:
http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg
The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.

believing d2g...

...

[quote=Magikarp]Just an interesting find:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg[/img]
The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.[/quote]
believing d2g...

...
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#127
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SaberMagikarpJust an interesting find:
http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg
The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.
believing d2g...

...

:^)

[quote=Saber][quote=Magikarp]Just an interesting find:
[img]http://s8.postimg.org/uc0g3rurp/ti4rigged.jpg[/img]
The guy posted that around 2AM this morning before the finals.[/quote]
believing d2g...

...[/quote]
:^)
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#128
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weow memerino xhaha!

weow memerino xhaha!
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#129
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turtsmcgurtsWARHURYEAHNot really Newbees fault they understand the strongest meta and exploit it.
i don't play the game enough to recognize these. what meta did they exploit?

Super early five man push?

[quote=turtsmcgurts][quote=WARHURYEAH]Not really Newbees fault they understand the strongest meta and exploit it. [/quote]

i don't play the game enough to recognize these. what meta did they exploit?[/quote]
Super early five man push?
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#130
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that's not an exploit but I get what you mean

that's not an exploit but I get what you mean
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#131
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Leave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.

Leave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.
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#132
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RadmanLeave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.

wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.

[quote=Radman]Leave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.[/quote]
wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.
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#133
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SaberRadmanLeave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.

haha

[quote=Saber][quote=Radman]Leave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.[/quote]
wow [b]haha[/b] yeah nobody learned how to counter that [b]haha[/b]!

[b]haha[/b]! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! [b]haha[/b] not even once! [b]haha[/b].[/quote]

[url=http://saber07.ytmnd.com/]haha[/url]
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#134
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http://i.imgur.com/5GundM7.png

looks pretty international to me

but gosh darn, five million bucks is nuts. wonder how much they actually get to keep.

[img]http://i.imgur.com/5GundM7.png[/img]

looks pretty international to me

but gosh darn, five million bucks is nuts. wonder how much they actually get to keep.
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#135
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The Western scene is very busy with a lot of tournaments, but tbh the previous tournaments have been pretty close but I think they are becoming more and more saturated meaning western teams just play instead of actually practice.

Newbee had a good advantage of not coming to the western tournaments and just focusing on improving, Alliance had a similar thing last year where they only really put effort in to G1 League.

The meta is just heavily focused on 5 man tower pushes, VG exploited this a lot vs. EG where they just focus the tower, ignore the heroes, get the XP and gold and GG push.

The Western scene is very busy with a lot of tournaments, but tbh the previous tournaments have been pretty close but I think they are becoming more and more saturated meaning western teams just play instead of actually practice.

Newbee had a good advantage of not coming to the western tournaments and just focusing on improving, Alliance had a similar thing last year where they only really put effort in to G1 League.

The meta is just heavily focused on 5 man tower pushes, VG exploited this a lot vs. EG where they just focus the tower, ignore the heroes, get the XP and gold and GG push.
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#136
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Newbee didn't even have super push lineups at all. Krob was banned every single game and Mu played standard mid heroes like brew and puck. I don't know where the whole "cheesy gay early deathball" shit comes from when it was just vici fucking up really hard and not learning from their mistakes

Newbee didn't even have super push lineups at all. Krob was banned every single game and Mu played standard mid heroes like brew and puck. I don't know where the whole "cheesy gay early deathball" shit comes from when it was just vici fucking up really hard and not learning from their mistakes
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#137
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Ggglygyhttp://i.imgur.com/5GundM7.png

looks pretty international to me

but gosh darn, five million bucks is nuts. wonder how much they actually get to keep.

from what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it

[quote=Ggglygy][img]http://i.imgur.com/5GundM7.png[/img]

looks pretty international to me

but gosh darn, five million bucks is nuts. wonder how much they actually get to keep.[/quote]
from what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it
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#138
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Saberwow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.

So just because a strat is beatable, it can't be gay?

[quote=Saber]wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.[/quote]
So just because a strat is beatable, it can't be gay?
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#139
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i dont think you understand:
there are no non-lame-as-fuck strats in dota2

i dont think you understand:
there are no non-lame-as-fuck strats in dota2
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#140
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#141
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downpourfrom what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it

i think he's wondering how much the sponsor takes. it's gotta be a sizable chunk.

[quote=downpour]
from what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it[/quote]

i think he's wondering how much the sponsor takes. it's gotta be a sizable chunk.
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#142
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Lunehttp://i.imgur.com/EDzYtKK.png

yaaay we won 5 million dollars

Did you see them in the booths? They were ecstatic

http://blog.dota2.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/0721_133149_quentin_postgame_203941.jpg

[quote=Lune][img]http://i.imgur.com/EDzYtKK.png[/img]

yaaay we won 5 million dollars[/quote]
Did you see them in the booths? They were ecstatic
[img]http://blog.dota2.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/0721_133149_quentin_postgame_203941.jpg[/img]
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#143
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http://i.gyazo.com/c6b25584820a83936fc1c522e62d119d.gif

[img]http://i.gyazo.com/c6b25584820a83936fc1c522e62d119d.gif[/img]
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#144
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i remember reading something a month or so ago that like certain tournament organizers were having a hard time paying chinese teams because its difficult getting money into china for a variety of reasons. wonder if valve will have the same problem. i think it was something in regards to like DK not getting paid for some tournament but i cant remember which one

i remember reading something a month or so ago that like certain tournament organizers were having a hard time paying chinese teams because its difficult getting money into china for a variety of reasons. wonder if valve will have the same problem. i think it was something in regards to like DK not getting paid for some tournament but i cant remember which one
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#145
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marmadukeGRYLLSdownpourfrom what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it
i think he's wondering how much the sponsor takes. it's gotta be a sizable chunk.

That's not how most sponsors work, the fact that Na'vi EVER took money from their players is kind of a joke. EG doesnt take anything, iG did the opposite in TI2, their owner matched their winnings. (they won the 1 mil, and were given another mil on top of that)

Sponsors profit from players in many ways, if the only way you can profit is taking their winnings then you're doing it wrong.

Oh, and valve makes sure the money goes directly to the players.

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS][quote=downpour]
from what i understand, they keep it all and valve pays the taxes on it[/quote]

i think he's wondering how much the sponsor takes. it's gotta be a sizable chunk.[/quote]

That's not how most sponsors work, the fact that Na'vi EVER took money from their players is kind of a joke. EG doesnt take anything, iG did the opposite in TI2, their owner matched their winnings. (they won the 1 mil, and were given another mil on top of that)

Sponsors profit from players in many ways, if the only way you can profit is taking their winnings then you're doing it wrong.

Oh, and valve makes sure the money goes directly to the players.
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#146
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SaberRadmanLeave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.

if they hadn't done lvl 1 rosh(fucking ego move by envy calling that) they would have won lanes i think and had a good shot at winning that 3rd game

[quote=Saber][quote=Radman]Leave it to China to find the gayest way to play the game. When focus moved away from ricing carries, they transitioned into 25 minute deathball pushes.[/quote]
wow haha yeah nobody learned how to counter that haha!

haha! c9 never beat vici's deathball pushes by splitfarming and heavy lane winning/perfect ganking! haha not even once! haha.[/quote]
if they hadn't done lvl 1 rosh(fucking ego move by envy calling that) they would have won lanes i think and had a good shot at winning that 3rd game
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#147
Twitch
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dummy
Sponsors profit from players in many ways, if the only way you can profit is taking their winnings then you're doing it wrong.

Oh, and valve makes sure the money goes directly to the players.

A lot teams take a small percentage of prize winnings (10-15%). The players sign a contract with the organization (the org owns their rights) and Valve has to honor that agreement. The prize winnings generally go through the organization and then get distributed to the players sans whatever cut the organization takes per the contract.

[quote=dummy]

Sponsors profit from players in many ways, if the only way you can profit is taking their winnings then you're doing it wrong.

Oh, and valve makes sure the money goes directly to the players.[/quote]

A lot teams take a small percentage of prize winnings (10-15%). The players sign a contract with the organization (the org owns their rights) and Valve has to honor that agreement. The prize winnings generally go through the organization and then get distributed to the players sans whatever cut the organization takes per the contract.
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#148
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I thought Valve pay the players though, which is why Artsyle was removed from Navi because he kept his share instead of giving a percentage to the org. That was a long time ago so it could have changed.

I thought Valve pay the players though, which is why Artsyle was removed from Navi because he kept his share instead of giving a percentage to the org. That was a long time ago so it could have changed.
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#149
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To my knowledge they did this every year.

Valve also pays the taxes on it. So when they say 25% go to the prize pool its really more like 50% since I think 50% of prize money in WA is taxed, aka you if win 2 million, you only keep 1 million after taxes.

Orgs probably have agreements with their players but to my knowledge Valve gives each player a separate check for themselves. What happens after that is beyond me.

To my knowledge they did this every year.

Valve also pays the taxes on it. So when they say 25% go to the prize pool its really more like 50% since I think 50% of prize money in WA is taxed, aka you if win 2 million, you only keep 1 million after taxes.

Orgs probably have agreements with their players but to my knowledge Valve gives each player a separate check for themselves. What happens after that is beyond me.
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#150
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marmadukeGRYLLShey guys when the only way to win a game is to hit buildings and there's $5 mill on the line guess what people are gonna do? find the best way to hit buildings.

people went apeshit over a puck coil cancelling tp's to then watch people hit an ancient to win the last international. the international will never have some fucking awesome 10 man teamfight to decide who wins, it'll be who gayed who harder.

Lol I didn't say it was undeserved. Relax.

[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS]hey guys when the only way to win a game is to hit buildings and there's $5 mill on the line guess what people are gonna do? find the best way to hit buildings.

people went apeshit over a puck coil cancelling tp's to then watch people hit an ancient to win the last international. the international will never have some fucking awesome 10 man teamfight to decide who wins, it'll be who gayed who harder.[/quote]
Lol I didn't say it was undeserved. Relax.
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