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Hey guys! For the past few weeks, I have been dying to get started into competitive Team Fortress 2. While I don't exactly stomp on pubs, I can definately see that I have gotten better than I was before. Even a 1 kill death ratio doesn't satisfy me (yes I care about K:D, this is pubbing :o). Anyways, I think I want to get started into competitive because lets face it.. there's only so much excitement playing in pubs. I am afraid to use my voice because I am pretty young compared to these players and in YouTube videos, I have not heard a single person with a voice like mine speaking in Mumble. Anyways, how do I get started? Sure there are over 8,999 threads out there but do I have to look for a group that is willing to check me out? Sure I could spend thirty minutes reading guides and how to get started, OR I could be lazy and wait for the comments that I receive tommorrow morning if anybody cares about responding to this post. So just a few questions.
1) Do I have to be accepted by a group or do I have to play a couple of mixes or pugs?
2) Do North American players accept young peo-CHILDREN? I would rather not give out my age but I am a teenager..
3) Will I have to practice my non-pubertied nuts off doing rollouts and MGE rounds?

I'm sorry if this doesn't make any sense. I do hope that this is quite.. legible(?) to any adults reading this. Thanks for reading ;)

Hey guys! For the past few weeks, I have been dying to get started into competitive Team Fortress 2. While I don't exactly stomp on pubs, I can definately see that I have gotten better than I was before. Even a 1 kill death ratio doesn't satisfy me (yes I care about K:D, this is pubbing :o). Anyways, I think I want to get started into competitive because lets face it.. there's only so much excitement playing in pubs. I am afraid to use my voice because I am pretty young compared to these players and in YouTube videos, I have not heard a single person with a voice like mine speaking in Mumble. Anyways, how do I get started? Sure there are over 8,999 threads out there but do I have to look for a group that is willing to check me out? Sure I could spend thirty minutes reading guides and how to get started, OR I could be lazy and wait for the comments that I receive tommorrow morning if anybody cares about responding to this post. So just a few questions.
1) Do I have to be accepted by a group or do I have to play a couple of mixes or pugs?
2) Do North American players accept young peo-CHILDREN? I would rather not give out my age but I am a teenager..
3) Will I have to practice my non-pubertied nuts off doing rollouts and MGE rounds?

I'm sorry if this doesn't make any sense. I do hope that this is quite.. legible(?) to any adults reading this. Thanks for reading ;)
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#2
6 Frags +

1) play newbie mixes
2) no and if people are being assholes ignore them
3) rollouts yes, mge not necessarily, however its good to have good dm

1) play newbie mixes
2) no and if people are being assholes ignore them
3) rollouts yes, mge not necessarily, however its good to have good dm
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#3
6 Frags +

i will be helpful
1. you should really pug to learn where you are, you can get to intro pugs through atf2.org and then #tf2mix off of that. double click on #tf2mix and type like !help or something like that, i forget the command, just ask people in the channel for help

there are also places that do in-house pugs, lower level ones are like power pugs (look for the steam group) and stuff like that. don't worry about the higher stuff for now

2. probably you'll get accepted, just don't be like the legend of toaster[bro] or something. as long as you're cool you'll be fine

3. probably if you play demo. rollouts are always a good idea to practice.
as for mge it depends, i personally like it but it really depends on what YOU like

as for your profile
"a pro asian", "you mad bro?" "even jews can play this"
i vomited, please remove

i will be helpful
1. you should really pug to learn where you are, you can get to intro pugs through atf2.org and then #tf2mix off of that. double click on #tf2mix and type like !help or something like that, i forget the command, just ask people in the channel for help

there are also places that do in-house pugs, lower level ones are like power pugs (look for the steam group) and stuff like that. don't worry about the higher stuff for now

2. probably you'll get accepted, just don't be like the legend of toaster[bro] or something. as long as you're cool you'll be fine

3. probably if you play demo. rollouts are always a good idea to practice.
as for mge it depends, i personally like it but it really depends on what YOU like

as for your profile
"a pro asian", "you mad bro?" "even jews can play this"
i vomited, please remove
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#4
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Crit_NoobEven a 1 kill death ratio doesn't satisfy me (yes I care about K:D, this is pubbing :o).

my kd is more important than winning

[quote=Crit_Noob]Even a 1 kill death ratio doesn't satisfy me (yes I care about K:D, this is pubbing :o).[/quote]

my kd is more important than winning
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#5
4 Frags +

get started by surrounding yourself with players better than you.
in a newbie mix you will have 1 coach that will teach you the game with other people in a similar situation as you. games are meant to be fair and are organized based on experience.
you can also play tf2 lobbies. please play a lobby and be sure you can finish it. there you can practice what the coaches have to told you.

the other thing to this is DM. DM servers are the best play to get better. DM MOD can recreate the 5v5 fragging classes scenario in the same map with spawns close to the MID of the map or is centralized around another point depending on the map. for example in gravel pit the point is centralized around B point. The 1v1 mge form will not help as much as getting raped playing all the good players in the dm server at around 7-11pm on weekdays. the harder you get raped the more REAL the more POWERFUL the experience you are having toward getting better. before you know it you aren't getting raped.

the next step after you up your DM a bit and get used to the 6v6 format( from tf2lobby+newbiemix) is #tf2mix. This is a irc channel on gamesurge where you can play 6v6 format pugs.

The next step after you up your DM a bit and get used to the 9v9 format is #tf2.pug.nahl.
this is also a irc channel on gameserge where you can play 9v9 pugs
the next step after you feel confident in tf2 mix is #tf2.pug.na

You can access all of these channels on a website called atf2.org. its very simple!
if you have any questions you can add me on steam!
=D

get started by surrounding yourself with players better than you.
in a newbie mix you will have 1 coach that will teach you the game with other people in a similar situation as you. games are meant to be fair and are organized based on experience.
you can also play tf2 lobbies. please play a lobby and be sure you can finish it. there you can practice what the coaches have to told you.

the other thing to this is DM. DM servers are the best play to get better. DM MOD can recreate the 5v5 fragging classes scenario in the same map with spawns close to the MID of the map or is centralized around another point depending on the map. for example in gravel pit the point is centralized around B point. The 1v1 mge form will not help as much as getting raped playing all the good players in the dm server at around 7-11pm on weekdays. the harder you get raped the more REAL the more POWERFUL the experience you are having toward getting better. before you know it you aren't getting raped.

the next step after you up your DM a bit and get used to the 6v6 format( from tf2lobby+newbiemix) is #tf2mix. This is a irc channel on gamesurge where you can play 6v6 format pugs.

The next step after you up your DM a bit and get used to the 9v9 format is #tf2.pug.nahl.
this is also a irc channel on gameserge where you can play 9v9 pugs
the next step after you feel confident in tf2 mix is #tf2.pug.na

You can access all of these channels on a website called atf2.org. its very simple!
if you have any questions you can add me on steam!
=D
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#6
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Get familiar with 6v6 and Highlander format by playing lobbies to start off then newbie mixes. Once you find yourself doing well in lobbies and newbie mixes try moving on to #tf2.mix.na and #tf2.mix.nahl (for highlander) (both found through IRC). The next step would be to try and find a team, UGC and etf2l you will most likely have a lot more success with, ESEA is alot more competitive. Then you should record your games with prec in order for you to review your demo yourself or with a more experienced mentor. Look for a guide on IRC/atf2.org although its pretty straight forward and checkout the ugc forums when you want to start looking for a 6s/highlander team.

There will always be people that judge others based off their voice/age on the internet but just ignore them and keep playing.

MGE and DM servers can help improve your aim and movement which are definitely important in competitive, although gamesense is much more important.

Good luck.

Get familiar with 6v6 and Highlander format by playing lobbies to start off then newbie mixes. Once you find yourself doing well in lobbies and newbie mixes try moving on to #tf2.mix.na and #tf2.mix.nahl (for highlander) (both found through IRC). The next step would be to try and find a team, UGC and etf2l you will most likely have a lot more success with, ESEA is alot more competitive. Then you should record your games with prec in order for you to review your demo yourself or with a more experienced mentor. Look for a guide on IRC/atf2.org although its pretty straight forward and checkout the ugc forums when you want to start looking for a 6s/highlander team.

There will always be people that judge others based off their voice/age on the internet but just ignore them and keep playing.

MGE and DM servers can help improve your aim and movement which are definitely important in competitive, although gamesense is much more important.

Good luck.
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#7
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Best advice I could give is to watch casts/stvs and get a feel for the role you want to play, rollouts are essential, and I would reccomend just using newbie mixs, because lobbies tend to be a joke 80% of the time, or just leaky on 24/7 sniper.

Age doesn't really matter, if you can keep your cool and play well then people will respect you. There are douchebags out there that will discredit you for your voice, just igonre them, feeding the trolls isn't a good idea.

Finding a mentor is a great idea, reviewing demos has really helped me see my mistakes. DM is an important factor, but you could be really good in mge and not do well ingame due to just positioning or another factor. The best way to practice is to just play the game.

Best advice I could give is to watch casts/stvs and get a feel for the role you want to play, rollouts are essential, and I would reccomend just using newbie mixs, because lobbies tend to be a joke 80% of the time, or just leaky on 24/7 sniper.

Age doesn't really matter, if you can keep your cool and play well then people will respect you. There are douchebags out there that will discredit you for your voice, just igonre them, feeding the trolls isn't a good idea.

Finding a mentor is a great idea, reviewing demos has really helped me see my mistakes. DM is an important factor, but you could be really good in mge and not do well ingame due to just positioning or another factor. The best way to practice is to just play the game.
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#8
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Age doesn't matter if you're mature. I started competitive when I was 14. People don't mind your voice if you aren't stupid about it. Be respectful and take criticism well. If you're only say 12 but you act like you're an adult nobody will care. Just don't be the 12 year old kid who tells at others and doesn't listen to anyone else

Age doesn't matter if you're mature. I started competitive when I was 14. People don't mind your voice if you aren't stupid about it. Be respectful and take criticism well. If you're only say 12 but you act like you're an adult nobody will care. Just don't be the 12 year old kid who tells at others and doesn't listen to anyone else
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#9
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when you get comfortable with tf2 lobby then its time to find a esea team(that is if you like 6s). do not play UGC it will not get you any better and scheduling is frustrating (esea has its problems but the community is praying to the admins).

UGC is THE place for highlander.

i see people talking about age so i will too. I was 11 years old when i started to play competitive tf2. The truth is that anything is possible.

when you get comfortable with tf2 lobby then its time to find a esea team(that is if you like 6s). do not play UGC it will not get you any better and scheduling is frustrating (esea has its problems but the community is praying to the admins).

UGC is THE place for highlander.

i see people talking about age so i will too. I was 11 years old when i started to play competitive tf2. The truth is that anything is possible.
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#10
1 Frags +

Honestly, I don't know how much of your post I can agree with.

1) Can anyone EVER be comfortable in TF2 Lobby? I certainly can't, and definitely do not recommend it if you actually want to learn 6s.

2) UGC 6s, while it has its problems, is not a bad idea. Not everyone will want to jump into a paid league from the start.

Honestly, I don't know how much of your post I can agree with.

1) Can anyone EVER be comfortable in TF2 Lobby? I certainly can't, and definitely do not recommend it if you actually want to learn 6s.

2) UGC 6s, while it has its problems, is not a bad idea. Not everyone will want to jump into a paid league from the start.
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#11
2 Frags +

Word of advice; comming is kind of a big deal. You need to get over your voice quickly because playing with a mute is very, very frustrating.

Word of advice; comming is kind of a big deal. You need to get over your voice quickly because playing with a mute is very, very frustrating.
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#12
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manaHonestly, I don't know how much of your post I can agree with.

1) Can anyone EVER be comfortable in TF2 Lobby? I certainly can't, and definitely do not recommend it if you actually want to learn 6s.

2) UGC 6s, while it has its problems, is not a bad idea. Not everyone will want to jump into a paid league from the start.

you can easily find a lobby with 6 or so players with more than 100 lobbies.
i think lisening to a few coaches in newbie mixes will give you enough to practice in tf2 lobby. which when you feel like you are doing well (K:D and win loss is a good overall indication i think. although damage would be better it is unfortunately unavailable.) you can move onto tf2mix. when you start playing tf2mix and feel comfortable there you can start looking for an esea team and never have to play UGC 6's to get good enough to play in the paid league.
i'm probably not giving ugc enough credit. it is free but you wont get nearly the type of experience you would get from esea. especially because no platinum or Gold team will pickup someone new. Yet surprisingly esea teams do and when you get into the circlejerk of tf2mix you might even make some friends that will either make a team with you or recommend your awesome DM skills as an addition to someone elses team (play Soap DM a.k.a DM MOD).
BE friendly. Make calls. get over your voice. dont talk pregame and after the game too much.

oh! and download mumble. this is where you will be comming your entire tf2 career

[quote=mana]Honestly, I don't know how much of your post I can agree with.

1) Can anyone EVER be comfortable in TF2 Lobby? I certainly can't, and definitely do not recommend it if you actually want to learn 6s.

2) UGC 6s, while it has its problems, is not a bad idea. Not everyone will want to jump into a paid league from the start.[/quote]
you can easily find a lobby with 6 or so players with more than 100 lobbies.
i think lisening to a few coaches in newbie mixes will give you enough to practice in tf2 lobby. which when you feel like you are doing well (K:D and win loss is a good overall indication i think. although damage would be better it is unfortunately unavailable.) you can move onto tf2mix. when you start playing tf2mix and feel comfortable there you can start looking for an esea team and never have to play UGC 6's to get good enough to play in the paid league.
i'm probably not giving ugc enough credit. it is free but you wont get nearly the type of experience you would get from esea. especially because no platinum or Gold team will pickup someone new. Yet surprisingly esea teams do and when you get into the circlejerk of tf2mix you might even make some friends that will either make a team with you or recommend your awesome DM skills as an addition to someone elses team (play Soap DM a.k.a DM MOD).
BE friendly. Make calls. get over your voice. dont talk pregame and after the game too much.

oh! and download mumble. this is where you will be comming your entire tf2 career
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